Club Sale | It’s done!

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Needs to start happening soon.
Typical though, as we saw from 90% of transfers over the last 10 years plus, the Glazers love to drag things out.
 
Blackbeard said:
Fair enough I didn’t realise people in the Middle East couldn’t like football and want to own a football club for fun. My bad.
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If individuals owned any of these clubs (for real, not fronting for the state), you'd have a point.

But it's states owning these clubs. And it is absolutely for sportswashing. It's the definition of soft power.
 
Moriarty said:
If memory serves, Matt bought only two £100,000 players: Law and Morgan. He was notoriously tight-fisted when it came to paying wages, going as far as trying to gyp Frank O'Farrell out of a portion of his salary. I wonder how Matt would have felt about the Glazer takeover? I know he died in 1994 but I think he would have moved heaven and earth to keep United out of their hands.
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Matt bought Tommy Taylor for a then record fee of £29995. Huge money at the time.He didn’t mind paying for quality.
 
I’m beginning to think this is more likely to be wrapped by the end of the year, may as well put that as the picking post since it’s the glazers and the size of the deal, this is all pathetic and pretty shit tbh.

Guarantee the transaction itself will take at least 5 months to complete they will cling on with every sinue and possible loop hole to still be involved and benefitting unless they get silly money which won’t happen.

Other clubs worldwide and in teh states will be sold for more or close to and they will use it as a new barometer, long way to go on this yet.
 
What was it Ferguson said about Dennis Wise? He’d have an argument with himself if in a room with a mirror.
Same could be said about many on this thread.

2000 pages and it’s been the same shite!
 
Plant0x84 said:
Sillyacus still milking the attention is he? :rolleyes:
If his bid was bigger and he was confident then he would still be active in the process. What a clown.
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The source of his funds was ridiculous tbf
 
Plant0x84 said:
Sillyacus still milking the attention is he? :rolleyes:
If his bid was bigger and he was confident then he would still be active in the process. What a clown.
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Well, Succession comparisons have been made all through this process, with the roy/glazer failkids, so...sure, maybe Sill looks a clown this week... but maybe by the end of the process, in both cases the eccentric Scandi exec really will become king
 
Plant0x84 said:
Sillyacus still milking the attention is he?
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I don't understand what his game is.

Has it really come to the point where any kind of attention (clicks, whatever) literally is good attention?

Like the "hate watching" thing? You purposely create something shit in order to get people talking about how shit it is - and presto, attention, clicks, whatever.

Is this nonsense good for (his) business? Or is he just a loon?

I feel old.
 
TrebleChamp99 said:
I’m beginning to think this is more likely to be wrapped by the end of the year, may as well put that as the picking post since it’s the glazers and the size of the deal, this is all pathetic and pretty shit tbh.

Guarantee the transaction itself will take at least 5 months to complete they will cling on with every sinue and possible loop hole to still be involved and benefitting unless they get silly money which won’t happen.

Other clubs worldwide and in teh states will be sold for more or close to and they will use it as a new barometer, long way to go on this yet.
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Well at some point there has to be a cutoff for planning our summer transfer window
 
Wait, is that the Paul White that some in here have been gushing about as a financial expert? I mean, he may be a financial expert, but having the Qatari flag in his twitter profile pic pretty much kills any semblance of a neutral opinion on this matter.

I'm sorry, but that kind of stuff with the Qatari flag in profile pics, etc., is embarrasing.. Are others putting the Ineos logo in their twitter profile? I haven't seen it, but that would be embarrassing, as well. When you're that far up the ass of who you want the owner to be, you're not going to be objective now, or if the bidder you're twerking for ends up owning the club.
 
Chief123 said:
Glazers having just 20% would mean they still have control based on their class B shares unless the clause they had inserted pre-floating on stock exchange was removed or
Changed. SJR would be stupid to still proceed without addressing that clause.
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Understood, thanks for pointing that out. Totally agree.
 
Now being reported (again) by shit sources (Mirror, not posting the link) that Jassim has added a "pledge" to his bid: A billion (USD) will be dedicated to infrastructure and facilities in addition to the money spent on the purchase itself.

Why is this even a thing (something people, including journos, keep bringing up)? Do they actually think the Glazers give a single feck about what happens to United after they're out?

Some of them (again, including actual professional journos) keep mentioning this aspect as if it were something the Glazers have to consider when weighing up the offers.
 
MiamiSpartan said:
Wait, is that the Paul White that some in here have been gushing about as a financial expert? I mean, he may be a financial expert, but having the Qatari flag in his twitter profile pic pretty much kills any semblance of a neutral opinion on this matter.

I'm sorry, but that kind of stuff with the Qatari flag in profile pics, etc., is embarrasing.. Are others putting the Ineos logo in their twitter profile? I haven't seen it, but that would be embarrassing, as well. When you're that far up the ass of who you want the owner to be, you're not going to be objective now, or if the bidder you're twerking for ends up owning the club.
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Yeah I have tried to be open as possible to both bids. I will admit most of me favouring Jassim is fear of them going to put their money into scousers/Spurs instead.

On the other hand I totally understand people who say it won't feel the same achievement when winning things state owned so want us to remain more organic.
 
I do think this is all going to end with the inevitable acquisition by the Qataris. They are just trying to play their cards right. It’s become a game of poker between Glazers and Qatar.
 
Can you imagine that breaking news 'Glazers agree full sale to (insert whoever)'

No, me neither.
 
Garethw said:
I wouldn’t trust anyone under this scenario. I’d be taking the money and running.

As far as I am aware SJ hasn’t offered the rats a way to stay as shareholders, so what’s your point?
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Well, they have. They have offered all six of them to stay by not offering what those six want to sell, yet.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Now being reported (again) by shit sources (Mirror, not posting the link) that Jassim has added a "pledge" to his bid: A billion (USD) will be dedicated to infrastructure and facilities in addition to the money spent on the purchase itself.

Why is this even a thing (something people, including journos, keep bringing up)? Do they actually think the Glazers give a single feck about what happens to United after they're out?

Some of them (again, including actual professional journos) keep mentioning this aspect as if it were something the Glazers have to consider when weighing up the offers.
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Its called PR and both bidders do this. Until the preferred bidder is announced the games will continue.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Now being reported (again) by shit sources (Mirror, not posting the link) that Jassim has added a "pledge" to his bid: A billion (USD) will be dedicated to infrastructure and facilities in addition to the money spent on the purchase itself.

Why is this even a thing (something people, including journos, keep bringing up)? Do they actually think the Glazers give a single feck about what happens to United after they're out?

Some of them (again, including actual professional journos) keep mentioning this aspect as if it were something the Glazers have to consider when weighing up the offers.
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Are they calling that new news? Sounds like just regurgitating the reports about the Qatari bid from the weekend. Eithre way, it is irrelevant like you said. Someone here made a good comparison the other day. If you're selling your house, you don't base your acceptance of a bid on whether someone is going to remodel the kitchen, and you certainly don't take a lower offer from someone just because they're going to upgrade the kitchen.
 
JJ12 said:
Can you imagine that breaking news 'Glazers agree full sale to Joel.'
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I can now :angel:

Someone up there asked if it's possible that now any kind of attention is accepted as long as it generates clicks. I'd say this thread is the living proof as, since after the first round of bids ended and it was clear that there were only 2 bidders and only 3 possible outcomes, literally nothing has happened and that hasn't stopped us.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Now being reported (again) by shit sources (Mirror, not posting the link) that Jassim has added a "pledge" to his bid: A billion (USD) will be dedicated to infrastructure and facilities in addition to the money spent on the purchase itself.

Why is this even a thing (something people, including journos, keep bringing up)? Do they actually think the Glazers give a single feck about what happens to United after they're out?

Some of them (again, including actual professional journos) keep mentioning this aspect as if it were something the Glazers have to consider when weighing up the offers.
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Agreed. They never have nor will give a single feck about United unless they profit from it
 
DOTA said:
Your posts in the thread account for just over 42 pages.

From the other side Berbaclass manages 35.
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Cassidy said:
Its called PR and both bidders do this.
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Yes, I get that. Well, sort of. They want the fans on their side because...yes, it's better than not having them on their side, generally speaking. As a tactical "leak" it makes sense as a way of winning over the fans before buying the club.

However, it still makes no sense whatsoever for a journalist (or for a random fan, for that matter) to present/include it as a relevant aspect of the bid itself (and that is precisely what they do).
 
Sir Erik ten Hag said:
More people have prefered the Qatar side since Ratcliffe revealed himself as a traitor to the club, who would let the Glazer brothers remain here, instead of wiping them off completely.
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Nobody is in any position to ‘let the Glazer brothers remain here’ but the Glazers themselves. In case you haven’t realized, the club is still legally their property.
 
Sir Erik ten Hag said:
More people have prefered the Qatar side since Ratcliffe revealed himself as a traitor to the club, who would let the Glazer brothers remain here, instead of wiping them off completely.
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Because clueless people don't realize if he didn't do that the Glazers would've chosen minority investment and stayed in control. They were never going to choose lowballer Jassim.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Now being reported (again) by shit sources (Mirror, not posting the link) that Jassim has added a "pledge" to his bid: A billion (USD) will be dedicated to infrastructure and facilities in addition to the money spent on the purchase itself.

Why is this even a thing (something people, including journos, keep bringing up)? Do they actually think the Glazers give a single feck about what happens to United after they're out?

Some of them (again, including actual professional journos) keep mentioning this aspect as if it were something the Glazers have to consider when weighing up the offers.
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That's been baffling me for a while. People keep saying it's "good PR" but Glazers didn't put what the fans want ahead of what earns them the most money when they were still in charge. So why would they start now, when they're about to walk away from the club forever?!
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
Your post proves my point entirely. Flexible & open-minded are 2 things people are lacking in regards to all parties in this bidding process.

Tell you what’s better than 2 Glazers with no input but a financial stake in any future successes, no Glazers at all. If the shares are so meaningless after the proposed SJR/Ineos takeover then why bother having them? Because they are simply worthless, that family stand to profit off us for years to come & it stinks.

If it was the only way then yes but it’s far from it, the Glazers can’t afford the club anymore, they’re not doing SJR a favour.
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The fly in the ointment is the issue of State ownership, and the particular State or States currently engaging in it.

Which is a significant problem with zero justification from mine and many millions of other fans, whether United or other.
 
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