Lads, why are you all being so critical of Sheikh Jassim’s ‘low’ bid? How many private individuals could go up against the might of a multinational chemical company?
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He was just fecking with them.
Yeh. They've got one of the least passionate fanbases around, can often not even be arsed to show up and support their team even in some huge games that just a few years ago would have been beyond their wildest dreams.
So yeh, I get the impression they're a bit bored. Hollowness often has that effect.
Lads you heard the man, the orgy is tomorrow night at @TheReligion's place.
Brexit means Brexit.
I will accept this only if The Glazers are permanently vanquished. No keeping their stocks In any capacity.
How many times does it need to be explained in here that they aren't being kept on in any way? They retain a small equity stake with zero control. For all intents and purposes, they're fecking off.
But are they getting more or less from the Jassim bid? These reports aren't clear to me.
Give me some broccolis and no chemical company stands a chance.
Some believed every single claim coming from the PRatari camp.
them staying appears to be the entire crux of the deal
People need to realise Qatar have committed about 6.5B -7B to the club with their bid and plans
Nobody on the planet is or will ever offer anywhere near that including Jim with his 69% bid on borrowed money
I’d say that’s more to do with the fact they haven’t got a large fan base rather than the fact they are all bored of winning. Did any of us get bored during SAF reign?
Better get on to Raine.
Wonder what reaction Bojo will get when he draws the HT raffle.
The INEOS bid is for either 69% of the club, or 50%+1 of the club (with two of Glazer siblings remaining as minority shareholders).
In any case, according to the latest report the INEOS bid values the club higher than the Qatari bid (which is technically a higher bid). Whether that report is accurate or not is another thing.
Took place in the summer, right? As was agreed when they "won" the bid by entirely legitimate means, right?
Promises
WTF are you talking about? Nobody has been worrying about anyone's nationality.
Nobody has a clue what they’ve committed. Their PR lads were saying they’d bid over 5bn yesterday which was bullshit.
You know its not about the Glazers in that scenario, its about not getting the infinite money glitch.
Understand Liverpool is their back up option
i think basically its Jim giving the Glazers themselves more money. Jassim will wipe the debt and pay for a new club, which the Glazers dont care about
Jim Glazer
I’m not sure what you’ve heard
Indeed. The fanbase have totally lost their fecking minds believing the PR bullshit of an oil state.
He'd be the bravest man alive in Manchester if he dared to come forward now. Who would believe in the words of a traitor to the club, who claimed to be a United fan yet would let the Glazers stay at our club? What happened to all the promises of rescuing us from the parasites?
Well the same sources saying Jim is leading the race was saying the same about the Qatar bid
It’s been reported since the start that all debts will be wiped and money for the stadium is available by pretty much every single source
FFS so the Glazers stay.. The question is, how much worse is this for us now compared to only Glazers?
What a shite fecking example. Clueless.
He's going to move us to Monaco.
I think after this failure, Jassim may find himself being committed to 20 years hard labour.
It was also reported that Jassim would blow Ratcliffe “out of the water” with his bid. But that didn’t happen. Stick to the reality not PR.
Let’s be honest people.
This isn’t over yet. If there is anyone that is world class at dodgy under the table deals it’s Qatar..
Ratcliffe might mysteriously go missing soon. He probably shouldn’t visit any embassies in the near future.
This isn’t over yet. If there is anyone that is world class at dodgy under the table deals it’s Qatar..
Ratcliffe might mysteriously go missing soon. He probably shouldn’t visit any embassies in the near future.
No, people like you seem to be clueless.
Qatar can promise whatever it wants, and of course a 100% ownership coupled with major investment in the club and the local area sounds fantastic, and is something every United fans want, but it’s not what the Glazers want is it?
You’re clueless because you seem to think the Glazers give a shit about anything Qatar wants to do with United if they buy them. They own United - like it or not - and their interest is getting the best price possible for their shares but you seem to think out of the goodness of their hearts they should do whats best for United and accept what is - on paper - a worse offer for them but a better offer for United
In what world did you ever think that Qatar would and should win the bid just because it’s better for United? If SJR wins the bid its because he’s tried to get the best possible deal he can for United whilst keeping the Glazers sweet. The Qatar bid seems to have just underdelivered at every stage despite promises of big bids and unlimited wealth, as I said in a previous post, considering their huge financial clout if they don’t win the bid it’s entirely their fault.
So no, saying the Qataris aren't paying up isn’t “fecking nonsense” they are willing to pay up to the community and the club but they aren’t willing to put up the cash to convince the Glazers to choose them over SJR so how about pay more if you really want it or shut up because the Glazers don’t give two shits about the money being invested after they are gone, which means nothing to them.
And? It’s been reported by the same people who said they bid over 5bn yesterday. Which they were told by the London PR firm representing the Sheikh. It was bullshit. The initial Keegan article said they were willing to pay whatever it took to get the club - again more PR bullshit.
That's the fear...
Liverpool has a lot of the same issues that we have, though (facilities requiring significant investment). So I could see a similar situation where a debt financed bid for FSG to feck off beats a bid for full control + promised capital investment.
If you don't think they are going to use us to pay that debt you are very naïve.
Jesus christ. I was coming to the conclusion that you might be reasonable but that's disgusting.
Dodgy dealings and disappearances Saudi-style.
Yeah...Matt Busby would approve of this alright.
Qatars bid has though that’s the point
Like it’s been said a million times they’ve committed 7B to the club whilst Jim is buying 69% on borrowed money
The money Qatar have offered Jim won’t get anywhere near paying in probably 10 years at the club
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