Nobody's suggested that to be the case. I'm just asking what sets United apart from other clubs for you?
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You are a genuinely great poster and a good man. Excellent post.
Yes but enough about Qatar.
I don't see how this disproves my point, infact it absolutely strenghtens it. Pre Abromovich we were the 2nd top spenders, we had a great manager so our spending was done well and we won a lot of trophies, we need to spend money to win, that is as true today as it was in the 90's. We just aren't spending it well.Obviously we outspent teams like Everton, but we were never the biggest spenders.
90's:
Pre Abramovich:
Sir Alex:
All PL:
The replies you’ve been getting just indicate how much fanbases have changed for the worse.
We are back to this again... For the 12th time.
Let's start something different. Cats for United or Dogs for United?
Which is your preferred choice?
Let's start something different. Cats for United or Dogs for United?
Which is your preferred choice?
Anything but rats
I don't think it's going away tbf. Dogs, obviously.
Camels.
If everybody wears wellies there'll be no need for any conveniences.....every little helps!
Is this conversation going to die when whoever takes over, takes over, I swear this whole thread could be condensed to like 100 pages max. Same conversations over and over again
Thanks mate - you're a good sport really
In all seriousness, have they heard anything today?
And @Berbaclass is right, check out Phil Brown's podcast from yesterday, very good listen.
Great post.
Not sure where you're going with the whole 'birthright' part, but great post aside from that. Doing well the right way is more enjoyable than winning the league every year due to being the plaything of a state.
Good post. It’s crazy how people can’t see that a successful club has much more to do with getting the right manager/sporting structures in place than just throwing money at the problem. Liverpool and City have been dominating recently because of Pep and Klopp. Not because they’re outspending everyone around them. And, as you said, Fergie regularly saw off clubs that spent more money than us. Yet here we have a huge cohort of fans who seem to care about nothing more than how much money our new owners will spend. Despite the absolute train wreck we’re witnessing at Chelsea.
It's going to be Qatar isn't it.
At the peak we were the top spenders. Also Ineos is kind of shit in football. Just lookbhow nice and Lausanne are run.
In a straight bidding war, SJR was always unlikely to beat Qatar, but the alternative bid that has seemingly emerged in the past few weeks, where Avram and Joel are permitted to remain while SJR facilitates the exits of the other siblings, might prove attractive. Qatar are not offering this option.
Despite all the press speculation, we really don't know enough about the internal politics of the Glazer family to judge what the most likely outcome is here. Nothing would surprise me at this stage.
By Birthright, I just mean the metaphorical passing of the United baton from grandfather to father, father to son. Taking those first steps down Warwick Road with your family for the first time. It's what makes football special.
I went to the Youth Cup final last season, and it was probably one of the best football days out I've had in years. The ground was full of groups of mates and families stood together. Granted, it can't be like that every week for obvious reasons but it was the best indication of why, despite everything with the Glazers post 2005, I still love United.
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I’m seeing so many posts that are all over the place so basically it’s this as far as Qatar are concerned and I won’t do Ratcliffe’s as he’s a rat cnut,
The Glazer’s own 69% of the club
The Glazer’s own 100% of the voting
31% of the club is floated
Qatar bid £5.2 billion for 69% of the club
Qatar want to then buy the other 31% after
The whole £5.2 billion goes to the Glazer’s
£5.2 billion is roughly $6.5 billion
Each Glazer gets over $1 billion
Total investment is estimated at £10 billion
The Glazer’s own 69% of the club
The Glazer’s own 100% of the voting
31% of the club is floated
Qatar bid £5.2 billion for 69% of the club
Qatar want to then buy the other 31% after
The whole £5.2 billion goes to the Glazer’s
£5.2 billion is roughly $6.5 billion
Each Glazer gets over $1 billion
Total investment is estimated at £10 billion
I would assume it’s fake but then again, it’s trump.
Which club in the PL is actually not a plaything of a rich fellow? Nearly all clubs are owned by billionaire businessmen and in the next 10 years I would expect Middle Eastern oil money to own the majority of all big clubs. There is no more "right way" left because of the revenues and money involved. Also I don't understand how anyone can stand the Glazers still being associated with this club after all they've done to it. Is that the legacy you want to pass on to future generations of Utd supporters?
There weren't many players we wanted that we didn't get which meant that others were forced to buy 2nd-3rd options. We were also lucky to produce a 2 in a club lifetime generation youth batch. Good luck buying Scholes, giggs and becks in this market with a limited budget
The problem is there are only a few here that invest in reading most of the thread. You know who you are!
Those who bring up the same tired topics are those who only read the latest two pages.
Then think what popped into their head is some new topic that has not been discussed the previous 1100 pages like some biblical revelation. And then go on to pontificate on it like he was John the feckin Baptist
Always was, always was. As soon as they entered the process, this was only ending one way.
You can want the Glazers Out and also be very sceptical/concerned about what comes next.
I don't think anyone on this thread wants the Glazers to stay.
Actively cheering one set of potential new owners (again, without any real indication of what their intentions are) could make people look very foolish in a few years.
What you said wasn't true though. I'm still wondering what you think sets United apart from other clubs, not having a go but genuinely interested as I'm trying to understand a view that differs to my own.
You have to see thing in a certain perspective. I promise to answer that afterwards once I'm on my pc. It's a pain to post on a mobile
Then there are those who reply like Suella Braverman
I don't think that's correct. The bids will be for the EV of the club. If Qatar/SJR bids £5.5bn, the Glazers recieve a total of c. £3.3bn for their Class B shares.
I understand the moral concerns about state ownership. But if other state owned clubs have shown anything it's that these guys want to win if only for their prestige. We could do with that kind of single mindedness the state the entire club is in.
fergie still missed his transfer targets regularly aswell
Thankfully ole, Ronaldo, carrick & many of the others proved to be amazing alternatives to shearer, ronaldinho, essien or whoever (can’t remember the accurate details)
Good management & a youth structure is everything glad we have at least ETH and have not completely destroyed our youth structure yet
When are we expecting a decision? The next couple of days?
No we weren’t. Someone already posted all that information higher up the thread.
Any examples of any well run Qatari owned clubs?
After the swimsuit competition.
Come on Qatar, our wonderful new overlords. Pay off our debts and make us happy again.
I just can’t see them accepting the Qatar bid. Their greed knows no bounds, as we well know by now.
Nobody has any idea. Might take a couple of weeks.
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