Mickeza
still gets no respect
Just over 5bn to the Glazers for their shares plus the debt plus the remaining shares is a huge bid isn’t it? It must value the club at 6.5bn plus?
Good to know? What's your source?There is zero chance of it been Monday
It's all part of the authentic Manchester experience anyway.This is local rain provided by a local fan. They should pay for it
Yes I would imagine the swap from B to A would be taken out, unless it was a100% Glazer buyout.It doesn't work like that, though.
You can't "demand B" as it currently - apparently - stands: B turns to A when sold.
However, you're obviously right in the sense that neither Jim or the Qataris will spend a shitload of money and simply leave Joel and/or Avram in complete control of the asset.
In a scenario involving the Glazers remaining, the structure of the ownership model (and the shares-to-votes ratio) will presumably be, well, re-structured.
They won't be paying any tax, they put the club in the cayman islandsWouldn't there be tax savings to the Glazers if the sale price doesn't include the debt?
Wasn't that to do with share issues? I mean, the club surely pays UK corpo tax?They won't be paying any tax, they put the club in the cayman islands
Chuck another 5 bill in buy City, combine the teams and were on a winnerReally hope the Qataris are able to meet the Glazers' 8B valuation. If they don't offer the full 10B, there's a risk they might not win. So they should go ahead and bid 15B for the club. Anything less would be derisory.
As I understand it’s both. The option is included if the Glazers decide not to sell entirely, but the offer is primarily for a full sale.Is there any confirmation on whether SJR's bid is for 50% or more?
If you mix red and blue what do you get? Purple? No tanks.Chuck another 5 bill in buy City, combine the teams and were on a winner
Anything less than a full sale would still result in glazers ceding control. It wouldn't be the end of the world.Swear to fecking god I'll scream if we end up with a de facto Ratcliff/Glazer partnership.
Qatari's seem to be the only show in town regards a full sale
YesSo it's £5b for 69%?
So it's £5b for 69%?
No deadline for minority owners so ya it is a zero chanceIts unlikely but not zero chance
There are no minority bids.No deadline for minority owners so ya it is a zero chance
That's a bloody insane amount.Apparently so, though who knows how accurate these journalists actually are. If true its an incredibly high bid, if he's also paying the debt, and would be so foolish to turn down
Ya know, after 17 years I think they might already be in on that particular secret.We should flood the official United Instagram page with glazers out, to get the message that we don't want them to stay.
That would be a ecumenical matterGood to know? What's your source?
Or you're just guessing?
This is a rhetorical question.
For the whole of the club. Kaveh said so but hr might be clueless.So it's £5b for 69%?
That's a bloody insane amount.
Thats not rightFor the whole of the club. Kaveh said so but hr might be clueless.
Just over £5bn as reported is probably about $6.3bn. 31% floated shares come to around $1.95bn leaving each Glazer with an average of $720m. Probably not as much as they’ve hoped for but more than a fair price given that their father got the whole of the club for less than that.
We should flood the official United Instagram page with glazers out, to get the message that we don't want them to stay.
Thats not right
Soaring like an albatross directly into a power lineYou always reach for the sky and that's good enough for me.
We'll need an updated version
It disregards the difference between class A and B shares. The A shares are worth much less.He's right in terms of if 100% of the club is worth 6bn dollars, then 31% is worth 1.95, but that totally disregards the huge premium going yo the Glazers, because those shares are needwd for control
That's over 7.5b US. I thought it was between 7 and 6b US.
The heartache if they go with Sir Jim and we reminisce about this very day thinking about Jassim completely overhauling Old Trafford and Carrington and taking us back to the top, all the while the roof still leaks with Jim is trying to scrounge a few more quid to patch it up again as we languish in midtable
It disregards the difference between class A and B shares. The A shares are worth much less.
I know, I know, jog their memory just to make them forget about that Radcliff idea of keeping some.Ya know, after 17 years I think they might already be in on that particular secret.
INEOS will though. They would be handling the PR side if they win the bidLike I said. They never gave a feck what the fans think of them. They’ll give even less of a feck after they sell up.
The moment they choose to sell all class B shares automatically convert to class A shares. I’m working off the assumption that the other shareholders will raise a stink if they got less than the Glazers, but if the shares are to be bought at the current price/market cap then that’s about $1bn subtracted from the offer, then you give Raine they commission and what not and each of the Glazer walk away with about $900m.It disregards the difference between class A and B shares. The A shares are worth much less.
I saw a financial expert on a podcast earlier describe the Ratcliffe offer involving the Glazers as a hail-mary attempt to outmaneuver Qatar as he knows he can't compete straight up.
Think that's about right.
hail-satan more likeI saw a financial expert on a podcast earlier describe the Ratcliffe offer involving the Glazers as a hail-mary attempt to outmaneuver Qatar as he knows he can't compete straight up.
Think that's about right.