His best? He didn't even show up ffs.
It's been obvious since the very first reports that the guy was a bluffer, his entire life is a bluff, like all rich kids tbh.
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His best? He didn't even show up ffs.
It's been obvious since the very first reports that the guy was a bluffer, his entire life is a bluff, like all rich kids tbh.
Chances of Qatar acquiring the club are looking increasingly bleak
It is highly likely they will be our new owners. Why do you think otherwise?
The Glazers can’t afford to keep the club.
if new owner brings more/same debt onto club what is the point? And what is the point of glazers staying on if they have a non controlling share? Just shows they want to leech more money out of the club.
Less than 100% ownership does not mean less than 100% control.
The trouble is, if the Glazers stay on with SJR they will probably earn more in the long run as they will get what he pays, then continue to milk our profits
When will we find out what's happening?
When will we find out what's happening?
Jeez, you and mud.
Yikes. Sounds like loser talk.
The Glazers are the ones holding power now. Of course they'd have that kind of clause during the negotiation. And Ratcliffe is desperate to win, to the point that he seems ready to betray the club and keep the Glazers here.
what would have changed if he showed up?
Stating with such certainty that one side or another has won and then breaking down the finances as above is pure fan fiction.
I am sorry but those figures are just being pulled out of thin air at this point. The briefings from the various journalists make it perfectly obvious that nobody actually has a scooby what is going on. Jassim could be offering 5.5bn and Jim could be offering 2bn and season tickets for Nice or maybe Jassim is offering 2bn plus a lifetimes supply of jaffa cakes and Jim is paying the full 5bn.
Compromise. The other four get paid somewhat less, but Joel and Avram unblock the deal, and then stay on.
The difference in the bids doesn't seem to be overwhelmingly large, but just enough to tip the scales in Qatar's favor. By allying himself with Joel and Avram, Ratcliffe has tipped the scales his way.
Qatar will not own the club. Simple as.
I really don’t think they are, and if INEOS don’t like the terms they simply pull their bid and walk.
That’s a month old article
We should settle in "nobody knows sh*t". We don't know if some Glazers want to stay, we don't know the value of the Qatar bid, we don't know SJR's bid neither in value or structure.
What we do know is that United's market cap is around USD3.3B and that the gross debt is about USD1B (with the principal on around 0.6), so anybody paying more than that sum is likely to be overpaying.
I refuse to believe after all this we might still not get rid off the parasites. Believe!
Shows a bit of actual enthusiasm if nothing else. Honestly, you guys on here have shown more desire for Qatar than the guy fronting the actual bid has.
They should have had all of you as the face. Berba would have at least shown up and probably got a few PR photos, likely holding up a handful of mud.
C'mon Elon! Blud? Fam?
local lad will keep the Glazers into Manchester
Anything less than 50% Glazers and they have no influence. Don’t get me wrong I want to see the back of them but I have no idea what they’d gain from a minority stake.
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Ratcliffe being ready to betray the club and keep the Glazers here showed he was the desperate one to win. Ratcliffe is the one unable to leave that negotiation table, not the Glazers.
Enthusiasm means nothing. Ratcliffe bid is something taken from hell. It will keep the debt, it will keep the Glazers and there's no real commitment of heavy investment on anything. Yet he'll be the one who'll probably win simply because it benefits the Glazers better.
It's been explained in here already. They would benefit from the continued growth in the club's valuation due to the Super League, which they believe is an eventual inevitability. This is their primary interest in all this - they can't afford to remain operating the club, but they also don't want to leave all that money on the table.
Don’t forget the lads with their bedsheets at Carrington! Club legends each and everyone of them!!INEOS has this won.
Jaffa cakes are a significant upgrade to the bid from a Snickers.
Throw in some hand sanitizer too?
How do people seem to know the details of bids? Or is it fan fiction to support the result they want?
In case the choccy bit starts to melt? Sure, why not!Throw in some hand sanitizer too?
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Sheikh Jassim to my knowledge hasn't ever owned a football club. What makes you think that's good then? Surely you could argue Sir Jim has more experience in football using that logic?
Of course logic isn't in your mind. Oil money is.
I mean hats off to him it's a really clever move. Probably knows he can't outbid the Qataris so he just leaves 2 of the rats on board.
Kills most of the hope we have for future success of the club mind. Pretty sickening from a fan point of view but yeah...
If United are owned by Sir Jim, all we will have is the “moral high ground” and the “knowledge we are not owned by a corrupt regime” and “guilt free consciences” and we might have to “support the team” and “not sign Mbappe”.
Ok Miguel, lets draw up new rules based on the current regulations and hold all clubs accountable to them, with any clubs not already in a position to meet these rules, being offered for sale: no state buy-ins, no leveraged buy-outs with debt placed onto clubs by owners with insufficient resources to buy them from their own pockets or by mortgaging their existing assets, 50+1 fan ownership options, owners subject to external audits ensuring that they're acting for 'the good of the club and community' with the threat of being made to put it on the market and sell for present market value.
Just don't expect us to unilaterally abide and continue being exploited whilst oil-doped clubs prosper and regime-funded journalists cry 'scandal' at any prospect of our once again meeting top clubs on anything like an even footing. ...
The other way to grow the club's income and value significantly is through capital investment to grow revenues from the stadium, something they explored last year but can't pay for and can't viably finance. My guess is that the current debt would be restructured (I don't think it could stay as it is due to the Change of Control clause), probably under INEOS, and then the club would take on any new loans needed to fund developments to the stadium.
If the bid details that have emerged this week are true, I don't think the real battle will be Qatar vs INEOS, but rather Joel and Avram vs the other siblings.
The INEOS bid would be more attractive to Joel & Avram, but the others who just want a pay day now would surely prefer the Qatar bid.
How do the 6 come to an agreement that suits all their respective interests? Who knows...
The INEOS bid would be more attractive to Joel & Avram, but the others who just want a pay day now would surely prefer the Qatar bid.
How do the 6 come to an agreement that suits all their respective interests? Who knows...
But he is not a traitor to the club, like a certain someone who would still keep the Glazers here.
You could also argue from what we've seen from Ratcliffe he has no idea how to build a successful club. Nice just suck
Nipped, in the bud.
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