Club ownership | Senior management team talk

Surely they can't double down on this, I've heard similar rumours but I'd be shocked if they actually did it.
We got told they didn't meet the quota they wanted to hit and that 2025 will just be as difficult, to be honest, I can make better money elsewhere and the atmosphere is toxic so I will sit tight, if I leave then I will get a decent payout if not I'm happyish to continue at Utd
 
We got told they didn't meet the quota they wanted to hit and that 2025 will just be as difficult, to be honest, I can make better money elsewhere and the atmosphere is toxic so I will sit tight, if I leave then I will get a decent payout if not I'm happyish to continue at Utd
The handful of people I know still at the club in the catering department took the redundancy and then went back as casual staff, like yourself they can take it or leave it, but i hear its becoming more reliant on expensive agency staff, I'm not sure the Ineos maths is mathing if it's a similar pattern in other departments.
 
What time are you talking about? What decisions they were supposed to take that would shield them from making immidiate decisions? The club needs to function, the contracts keep progressing and it requires immidiate input.
Of course he wanted a sporting director asap, what else was supposed to happen?
There was no rush to bring Ashworth. We'd never had a DoF before so what difference would it have made to find the right appointment with Berrada. As opposed to what SJR wanted who knows f all about running a football club.

The rush to re-sign EtH without really wanting him was because how amature they were when eyeing up a new manager. They should have either committed or not flirted with changing at all and let EtH run into his final year keeping the +1 year up their sleeves.

Any "rush" or "lack of time" they had to make poor decisions was their own making. Both poorly handled decisions have cost us a shit season and more money than they have saved.
 
The handful of people I know still at the club in the catering department took the redundancy and then went back as casual staff, like yourself they can take it or leave it, but i hear its becoming more reliant on expensive agency staff, I'm not sure the Ineos maths is mathing if it's a similar pattern in other departments.
Yeah I know a few members of the catering staff, and as you say they know work as casuals and work match days at OT, one of them told me.rhe food bill at Carrington was £20k a week !
 
I can remember all those people hammering fans that wanted the Qataris in as opposed to INEOS. Most likely some xenophobic view that it was under British control. They are a complete disaster, currently worse than the Glazers. The proof was for all to see at Servette and Nice, why would United be any different?
 
It’s incredible looking at that team that we had a plan to be the “best transition team in the world”and bought the likes of Casemiro, Zirkzee, Eriksen (a free but still). Terrible planning.
 
They need to raise some money because we can’t continue like this all season we need players

If it means selling Rashford and 1-2 others then do it but we can’t let January go buy without adding to the squad
 
Arnold and Murtough have contributed equal damage to what Woodward did, needing only 3 years instead of 10
 
Maybe Berrada was a City mole and his mission was to bury us into the ground. Mission accomplished Omar :(
 
Where's the game model now lads?

Note how none of the journalists who were asking about game model constantly last week are chatting about it now...

How hard can it be to match a squad to a coach..?
 
Where's the game model now lads?

Note how none of the journalists who were asking about game model constantly last week are chatting about it now...

How hard can it be to match a squad to a coach..?

Precisely what happens when you look for the best coach available rather than looking what best fits the squad. It was never going to work with Amorin coming in mid-season and completely changing the system. Our best players last season were Garnacho, Mainoo and Bruno. This system doesn’t compliment any of them.

Amorin may be a fantastic coach but sadly he isn’t going to get the time to prove it here. I wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose against Southampton at home because morale is so low in the squad. That may be his final game.
 
Arnold and Murtough have contributed equal damage to what Woodward did, needing only 3 years instead of 10
What's baffling is that Arnold, shortly after taking over, did his beer summit with the fans where he directly admitted to all of the mistakes the club made during the Woodward era that resulted in over a billion being wasted with very little to show for it. And yet despite that apparent self-awareness, he then proceeded to double down on every failure of the preceding decade.
 
We basically look like Newcastle under Steve Bruce and Newcastle look like peps Barca.
 
What's baffling is that Arnold, shortly after taking over, did his beer summit with the fans where he directly admitted to all of the mistakes the club made during the Woodward era that resulted in over a billion being wasted with very little to show for it. And yet despite that apparent self-awareness, he then proceeded to double down on every failure of the preceding decade.

Because everyone reached the wrong conclusion. They all seemed to think the issue was that Woodward was going around buying players on his own whim - which never actually happened. The issue all along was, Woodward trusted our inept managers with 100s of millions - and they all just doubled down on it even more.

Literally the media, fans were all in the frenzy that we let our managers down with Woodward and co doing whatever the feck they want. The issue all along was, they let incompetent managers loose with £100ms every summer.

Even back then, our better long term signings were driven by the club (Herrera, Shaw, Martial) and the most damaging ones were driven by managers.
 
Because everyone reached the wrong conclusion. They all seemed to think the issue was that Woodward was going around buying players on his own whim - which never actually happened. The issue all along was, Woodward trusted our inept managers with 100s of millions - and they all just doubled down on it even more.

Literally the media, fans were all in the frenzy that we let our managers down with Woodward and co doing whatever the feck they want. The issue all along was, they let incompetent managers loose with £100ms every summer.

Even back then, our better long term signings were driven by the club (Herrera, Shaw, Martial) and the most damaging ones were driven by managers.
I get that, and I completely agree, but surely Arnold should've quickly come to the realization that indulging managers with transfers is a recipe for disaster.
 
Can the Glazers sack off Ineos as they are in charge of the footballing side and falling massively?
Glazers cannot do shite as they have no money to support United. If the Glazers sell now, who will even look to buy us at their asking price. We won’t get relegated but there’s a high chance we will become perennially mid table and then their stock will be worth much less. Unless Ineos magically find money, we are fecked.
 
Ratcliffe better gets his wallet ready
How were Clearlake able to spend a billion in 3-4 windows without PSR hampering them? Ineos better find their chequebook and a way around these rules or we are proper fecked.
 
Ratcliffe will actually be disappointed by our CEO’s decision to get Amorim mid-way. Clearly it was a bad decision considering our player profiles and lack of system understanding.

This is on the CEO, Omar Berrada.
 
People say Amorim doesn’t fit the squad, which is obviously true. But the truth is no coach really fits the squad. Even if you wanted to revert to counter ball, we don’t have the attackers to do so that effectively and we’ll just be delaying the inevitable down the line.
 
Ratcliffe will actually be disappointed by our CEO’s decision to get Amorim mid-way. Clearly it was a bad decision considering our player profiles and lack of system understanding.

This is on the CEO, Omar Berrada.

I agree it was poor forecasting, I thought Amorim would either exceed expectations or disappoint. He's done the latter but soo many factors fall on the feet of the ownership they have shaped this reality through making poor decisions.

Time is never required to assess competence, Ratcliffe's choices are not ones reflective of being a success in the short, medium or long term. He's assumed control of footballing operations and has shown nothing but failure.
 
INEOS either support their new manager with proper funds or get rid. As it's not going to work with that player material.
 
I wonder if all their fancy business analytics and modelling, gamed a scenario where we are 14th.
 
Fans need to get heavily behind a 'sack the board' campaign.
It's gone from bad to worse since Ineos took over. There's zero sign of improvement, money wasted on transfers, good players giving up, etc. This is now an absolute shambles.
 
How were Clearlake able to spend a billion in 3-4 windows without PSR hampering them? Ineos better find their chequebook and a way around these rules or we are proper fecked.

They made some back door deal with the Saudis to take their tosh for over flated fees.
 
Can the Glazers sack off Ineos as they are in charge of the footballing side and falling massively?

In June 2025 they can force him to sell his shares if they agree a deal with another buyer worth at least the same per share that INEOS bought them for if SJR doesn't match it.