We're already living with it, here in Ireland we're just living with it easier than a lot of countries are. It'll definitely hit our kids the hardest but our generation will suffer too in the next 20-30 years probably. I mean I'm actually considering fitting my home with air-con now cause of these fecking summers. Air-con, in Ireland!
Climate Change | UN Report: Code Red for humanity
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if it bleeds, it leads
Media reporting is behind these 'stories'.
Far more people died due to natural disasters in the past, than today. During climate change of the 17th century called the 'Little Ice Age', historians reckon a third of the world's population perished due to climate change, floods, famine, pestilence, and war. Today we're able to lever plentiful cheap energy to protect ourselves against nature. We are a lot safer. If you are really concerned about human welfare, worry about the 13% of people on earth who still don't have access to electricity.
Damn the media for reporting on floods and deadly heatwaves. The audacity! Well at least nobody is dying like they used to, eh?
Would you like me to lock the thread or just delete it? Or perhaps alter the thread title to let everyone know it's fake?
Let me know please x
Only if you believe the media. If you believe objective research, you'll know your kids are living at the safest, heathiest environment in human history. Even with COVID, it's safer for them than 20 years ago. As the lot of humanity improves with rising human development index, and human lifespan increases, people become more paranoid about invisible, in tangible threats they can't see, touch, or experience. Paradox?
Bet those people who drowned in Germany and Belgium feel like right idiots for dying in something that they can't see, touch or experience.
So because medicine, technology, quality of life, nutrition have improved vastly over the last number of decades, climate change is not real. Makes sense.
I'd hate for you to get a negative prognosis from your doctor. "ehhh, there's no way I have prostate cancer, I'm as healthy as anyone in history and I can't see any cancer, where is the cancer doc, where?".
In Lytton, BC they had their hottest day on record smashed by around 5C (most records are broken by fractions of degrees). 130 people died and a fire effectively wiped out the town.
What do you think is the cause of it jumping so high and what should we do to prevent it happening again?
Globally, 17 times more people die of cold than heat. For every one person dying because it's was too hot, or too warm, 17 die because it's too cold.
Ask yourself why the media aren't telling you this.
Oh dear he’s done the classic “if there’s global warming why isn’t it hot all the time?” line of stupidity.
Climate change makes both the colds and the hots more extreme. It makes all weather more extreme. That's the problem.
I don’t need commentary, I believe my own eyes and senses. It’s happening around you man.
Apparently the earth is getting HOTTER but HERE I AM currently FREEZING to death in December. Where's your climate change now HUH?
If there was global warning this thread would melt! And it’s not. All the proof I need
Waiting for Mark to come back with a link about forums not melting.
Why did you ask me that?
I hope you aren't projecting onto me, and trying to divine what I think.
Why would I want to burn a thread? Even if it were full of disinformation, I'd keep it for history's posterity. After Galileo and Kepler, when the solar-centric world took over, we didn't burn Ptolemy's Almagest which had misled humanity for over a thousand years
And a back to front graph to prove this.
My ice pop melted!
But Ice pops always melt
Yeah but mine was in the freezer Mark
But Ice pops always melt
Yeah but mine was in the freezer Mark
You clearly know what's up so I'm following your lead mate.
No but once everyone learned new information they didn't stick with it did they. We have enough information and evidence to prove climate change is real and it's going to get a lot worse.
Multiple people have already laughed at that comment. You seem to be restating the falsehood that climate change means everywhere is going to get hotter rather than more variable extremes worldwide. The informed media are quite clear about that.
Quality control
I never said climate change is unreal. By the way, climate change is due to changes in the sun and in earth's relationship to the sun. Evidence is here: The Solar Magnetic Cause Of Climate Changes And Origin Of The Ice Ages.
How ironic that you claim man made climate change is a hoax because some predictions weren’t 100% correct and then link to a book by someone who’s predictions and claims have been completely contradicted by temperature data.
“That year he also wrote: “In a nutshell, in 2001 I put my reputation on the line and published my predictions for entering a global cooling cycle about 2007 (plus or minus three to five years), based on past glacial, ice core, and other data ... If the present cooling trend continues, the [United Nations climate change] reports will have been the biggest farce in the history of science.”
So, what happened?
According to NOAA, the following year, 2009, was the fifth warmest year on record, 2010 tied for the warmest, then 2011 and 2012 were relatively cool at the 11th and 10th warmest years. When the data was in for 2013, it was the fourth warmest year. The years 2014, 2015 and 2016 were all progressively ranked warmest on record.”
But that cooling period will be coming any time now, surely?
There's so much evidence laid out before your eyes, I highly doubt adding any more to it will change your mind. There's thousands and thousands of books, studies and evidence collected already. You just don't want to understand it or are not able to understand it.Oh and as we know you love a good graph, here’s one to show how seriously he should be taken.
And as the text for the article explains, his methods are seriously flawed.
“Comparison of "skeptic" geologist Don Easterbrook's projections of global cooling from his presentation at the 2008 American Geophysical Union annual meeting (green and blue) with observational data from the NASA GISS land-ocean dataset (red), showing the time period 1900 to 2100. Easterbrook's temperature projections can be compared directly to the measurements in the overlapping period 2000 to 2010, where the IPCC and virtually all climate scientists have predicted continued warming. Easterbrook's projections are inaccurate because he doesn't use a physics-based approach but simply relies on correlations from past climate patterns and largely ignores the now-dominant effect of human greenhouse gas emissions. See also the graphic focusing on the period 1995 to 2015.”
https://skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=23
So yea, I think I’ll take that link you provided to this charlatan and add it the pile of misinformation you have posted consistently throughout this thread.
And as the text for the article explains, his methods are seriously flawed.
“Comparison of "skeptic" geologist Don Easterbrook's projections of global cooling from his presentation at the 2008 American Geophysical Union annual meeting (green and blue) with observational data from the NASA GISS land-ocean dataset (red), showing the time period 1900 to 2100. Easterbrook's temperature projections can be compared directly to the measurements in the overlapping period 2000 to 2010, where the IPCC and virtually all climate scientists have predicted continued warming. Easterbrook's projections are inaccurate because he doesn't use a physics-based approach but simply relies on correlations from past climate patterns and largely ignores the now-dominant effect of human greenhouse gas emissions. See also the graphic focusing on the period 1995 to 2015.”
https://skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=23
So yea, I think I’ll take that link you provided to this charlatan and add it the pile of misinformation you have posted consistently throughout this thread.
This statement is completely true if you ignore the people that answered your 'point'.
I'm going to alter your climate and see how you like it. Maybe when you're back you'll tell me I wasn't the reason for it happening.
Well this was a fun read.
Why would you want to believe in catastrophic outcomes caused by humanity? The incentives for not wanting to believe that are pretty obvious, but the opposite…?
at least to some extent this climate change was likely man-made, too
No they fecking don't.
I'm also more than a little interested in what kind of people you consider historians, after the people you considered climate scientists were two dumbasses with a website.
I cannot believe that even you would have the bare faced cheek to post this statement in the very thread where you were absolutely, to use your term, "eviscerated" by actual scientists presenting you with swathes of data.
I am astounded that you would have the gall to ask for empirical data in the same thread where you demonstrated a complete inability to read graphs the right way round, or even understand the graphs you posted sufficiently to determine that they ran contrary to your claims.
It is stretching incredulity to breaking point in a thread where you claimed a ludicrous and impossible deep mastery of multiple scientific disciplines (despite getting chemicals mixed up and claiming fish breathe water amongst several other risible errors) that you would pretend that you can be remotely convinced by expertise, data or lucid argument.
I can, however, find it entirely plausible, based on this thread, that you actually believe your claims that you have an open mind ready to learn based on evidence.
What have you done you fool?
This guy has proven himself to be a prime example for Dunning - Krueger years ago, I'm surprised so many of you here were willing to indulge into this fool's errand of having a 'discussion' with him
that was great
who were those guys again?
"Connolly & Connolly". Neither were climate scientists, and one of them was literally just a builder and electrician. Mark took their complete inability to get peer reviewed as evidence that they were the pre-eminent authorities on clinate science in the world.
Edit: here's what I found in 2019, from the about page on their website.
He's banned for a week now. When he comes back and inevitably acts the dipshit again he will be gone for good.
Oooooooo, time to have a look at his twitter feed and see if he is complaining about the woke leftists of red are silencing his true voice against the corporate shills of the climate alarmists. This should be good.