There are no penguins at the north pole.
City open talks with Milan over Kaka!!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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There are no penguins at the north pole.
Good spot. Johnno takes his own penguins with him in case he's in need of a quick fondle.Cold is cold to anyone, it aint like its South Beach in Milan
500 grand. You'd fondle penguins for Green Shield stamps so maybe you're not the standard we should be judging people by
I had a kitten called Jeffrey; I used to flick his testicles for a laugh. No-one paid me anything for that.
feck off you cnut, the Inuits would be getting a raping then. I'm gonna get my feck-on up there no matter what, even if I have to root a polar bear...
I'd hit that
See Johnno's right about the Brazilians heading for the north pole, there's Ronaldinho on his holidays.
I'd hit that
I'd pay you to fondle penguins.
So would I, but I'd prefer the climate in Milan over Manchester any day of the week.
Santa ate them all...
He talked about his career ....
WHAT THE feck?
FIVE feckING HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK?
That's just fecking ludicrous, if this goes through the sport's fecked.
Will people also stop listening to the Beatles because Paul McCartney gets paid the same amount too?
I think Cesc's point was about the precedent this sets in terms of salaries.
Football clubs are gonna be in all sorts of trouble, financaially, over the next few years as it is. If this alleged salary is true, then the most well-paid players will start using Kaka's salary as a yard-stick in negotiations. Which means football really is fecked.
I think people have to realise that this is another kind of scenario we're talking about when Man City and their billions come in. If we go for Valencia, he's not going to ask for 100k per week just because Kaka next door has got 500k. I think most agents and players would realise that it's different bowl of fish when City come knocking that's why I don't think it will be considered a yard-stick for negotiations unless the players themselves are egotistical.
Man City purchasing Kaka for £125m won't mean Real Madrid would have to spend the same for Ronaldo, we'd probably accept a bid for £80m because we realise theres a difference between the money backing of Man City and Real Madrid.
In anycase the reported figure is actually 250k though that's still 100k more than anyone else gets paid.
I dont think so, otherwise they all would have to move to City. Only they can afford that kind of wages. But I agree that it will not be good for football and Kaka would go down in my estimation
Yeah he would go down in my estimation as well. But I would love to see him in the Premiership, and it would be fantastic to see him there for at least 5 months before Citeh get relegated.
I wouldn't have thought that Madrid would need to match either the fee or salary package [not even close] to force serious consideration on Milan's part.
More depends on how genuine their interest actually is, and not mere electioneering.
I don't think other clubs would have to match the wages exactly but it will raise the expectations for footballer's salaries dramatically.
The really top players and their agents will be pushing for 150-200k/week or even higher, pointing out that their client could always agitate for a move to City if they won't meet his demands. Re-negotiating Ronaldo's contract has just got a feck of a lot harder, that's for sure.
Sorry, i havent been paying attention, can a non muppet give me a likelihood as to whether this will go through?
Probably not.But it keeps SSN and there fans happy.
That's different though, people are buying his works, his songs are/were in demand. Kaka would be getting paid nearly thrice the amount of the LARGEST earners in the League...
I see what you're getting at, but it's a poor example.
Yeah, Ringo would have been better.
How many players would that be? 3? 5? Nevertheless, I just cant see teams offering 200k a week deals, no team can afford that except City and maybe Chelsea. United most likely cant and wont, and I doubt Italian teams or Spanish teams are willing to pay that much. And if the player threatens to move to City then the clubs should take the money and laugh at him
So you think that having a player in the league on 500k/week won't put any inflationary pressure on salaries for the current best paid players in the league?
Fair enough. I happen to think you're wrong.
I don't think it will necessarily ' ruin' football even if Kaka's wages are well above the likes of Ronaldo. What we're seeing with City is what we've seen with Chelsea. Everybody was saying Football is over when Abramovich invested half a billion pounds into Chelsea and paying ridiculous wages, that's what they had to do to attract the best players there and make them what they are today, the same thing is happening with City, they're making their big money signings as the renties did in order to make themselves attractive to other top players, the same early stages of business which we saw at Stamford Bridge. Ultimately though, City, like chelsea, are running businesses and will scale back on their buying to recoup their costs in the long run and generate profits. I do think in the short run, there will be inflationary impacts with respect to other players' wages and overall transfer fees, however, that's been going on forever in the history of football. Compare the wages in the 1920's to those in the 50's and later decades, I'm sure you'll see a increasing trend. Furthermore, City can't keep buying like this (assuming they pay the reported money for Kaka) as they can't have too many world class players sitting on the bench, nor will these players want to sit on the bench, I suspect many top players won't even consider playing for a club that can't even challenge for trophies, but that's what City have to do in the early stages to make themselves a force to be reckoned with.
Apparently Milan will try to buy Ribery with the money from kaka's sale. The speculated fees are about 40 mil euros plus Oddo for the Frenchman. Can't see Bayern letting him go though unless he puts in a transfer request and pushes for a move. Will be a very good investment and replacement for Kaka if Milan do pull it off though.
Bayern will say he's certainly not worth 60 million less than Kaka, and ask for 80 million instead.
You don't just compare fees to figure something out. They'd let Ribery go for £40m.
Why would they?
They'll bleed Milan dry knowing they are minted, the same reason Kaka is costing City so much.
If Kaka is worth 100 million, Ribery is worth at least 80 will be their stance and rightly so.
no doubt, they'll try to milk Milan as much as they can, but the Italians are also a big side and I suspect Ribery would like to try his luck with Milan and become their new hero. He's already won the titles with Bayern and he'd probably see it as a new challenge to do the same with Milan and become their 'savior'. Not much Bayern can do if Ribery does push for a move and threatens to run his contract down. It might not happen next summer, but it could eventually happen at half Kaka's transfer fee, I don't think Milan will spend more than about that amount considering their need to rebuild their squad and take care of their shitty finances.
Because it's pointless to negotiate a fee by looking at how much Manchester City paid for someone. If that ever happens, players will no longer move clubs.
Funny, because thats exactly what happened when Chelsea came in and started paying well over the top for players.
The difference with Chelsea and City is that Chelsea didnt exactly get the best players even though at the time they were still a top 4 side.
City are gash and they signed Robinho and Kaka is a possibility. These 2 are 2 of the worlds best, alot better than any of Chelsea's signings. I really hope City feck up and get relegated.
That's what worries me the most about this we've both got a wage bills of over £100M already we can't afford 20% inflation on that right now.
Players ceased to move clubs apart from moving to Chelsea?
Besides, they hardly overpaid for anyone. They signed a lot of player, but mostly at acceptable fees. Only the signings of Essien and Drogba were questionable at £24m each but they proved to be worth the money, and those were not even ridiculous fees at all.
Fans are the club. Anyway that's a different argument.
The manager has a huge say. He's the one who runs things day to day. If the manager still wants him, Kaka can stay knowing he'd still play for Milan.
Milan can accept the bid and they probably should given the large amount. But after that Kaka can easily say I don't want to leave. If he does move, it will be completely his decision. He's not being forced to do anything, let's not delude ourselves.
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