PL needs to come down hard on these feckers.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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The league would be infinitely better without them.
But you're a critical, well informed fan. For most people out there (specially outside of Europe and to a certain extent LatAm) Man City has established itself as huge and important sporting institution, right up there with the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern and the Premiership giants. And they know that this is has happened under the stewardship of the Emirati state.
It doesn't stand alone (the rise of Dubai as a tourist destination, Emirates becoming the biggest carrier in the world), but all these things play together to embellish their regimes. It's the same with Qatar and PSG, The difference is that those guys haven't been as good at developing the sporting side of things.
Such a detestable, despicable club. I fecking despise them.
How hilarious that they’ve objected under the grounds of ‘English competition law’, which is there to ensure fair competition….the very thing they’re trying to avoid
Can we just vote them out of the premier league? Having multi year long legal battles to stop their blatant cheating is just tiresome. You'll close one door to cut their bullshit and they'll bulldoze 3 new ones in. They have no intention of playing by the rules, they cant even be bothered hiding their rampant cheating. Just bin them. The league would be better for it.
An argument i've heard is that its not so much positive thought they're seeking as just being thought of. Your far more aware of them than you were 20 years ago i'd think
If it’s an old horror film the monstrous alien entity that takes over the most boring person in the village goes up and tries a winning smile on the village policeman … “I’m being bullied”. Man, am I going to enjoy the sequel.
Who would have thought letting this mob into football would have this effect.
At least City being the only club taking legal action over the rule changes gives the Premier League another good reason to push for City to be relegated if they are found guilty, relegate them and the court action along with the associated fees goes away.
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It is indeed a terrible situation to find ourselves in. I hate Liverpool but- respect where it is due- they like us are a proper football club. Citeh are an oil- money club manufactured to win titles by any means necessary, up to and including fiddling the system. They’re experts at it, and to me represent most of what I detest about the current political world. So, though I never thought I’d say it, I’d prefer them to take the title over Citeh. That said, I’m still hoping for Villa.
Not only that one of their main private equity investors is Clearlake.
Hear, hear. Let’s just have football clubs in the league? If you are a nation state pretending to be a football club, see you next Tuesday. The damage across the league to genuine clubs (and we know these are all far from perfect) is too much. We need to believe in football. For that City must be voted out, banned indefinitely, or at least until they become an ordinary football club with football priorities and football resources.
Of course it is better if the owners of City buy another title.
It is void anyways.
No way I want the victims to win it.
It is void anyways.
No way I want the victims to win it.
Can’t put the genie back in the bottle. The time to get tough with these feckers was around 15 years ago.
I have some hope. Everton’s point deduction completely shut down the winter transfer market. As soon as teams are shown rules will be enforced, they follow them (ironically, just like players with referees).
And PL have painted themselves into a corner. They’ve got to see it through now, after 115 charges.
This is true, but in some ways they’re just too powerful for it to matter. I mean, they’re threatening to sue the PL for trying to keep them in line! If they’d kept them on a proper lead in 2008 this wouldn’t be happening.
City are a monster so out of control that they’re outraged when the governing bodies try to keep a lid on things. All the while they’ve won numerous trophies, a treble, and have the best team and coach in world football. It all feels a bit ‘too little too late’.
Agree. The whole thing is a mess. And as for an independent regulator, that just means a different set of people to pay off/bribe/pressurise. If anything it could be more at risk of political pressure, e.g. the government's "we can't possibly risk pissing off the Saudis" general stance.
The game is fecked, we just have to accept that and find the entertainment where we can.
They won’t be relegated instantly, they have 115 charges my guess is some will be proven and a points deduction’s of 20-30 points giving in the season of 2024/25 and a two window transfer ban. They will be immediately appeal and the points deduction overturned. They will threaten the PL with unfair regulations to run their business, however they signed the Pl rules and regulations like all over 20 clubs,
I know. Must have been fully xanaxed up when posting that. Let's forgive them and move on.Again though, is that a good thing? Making people think of you when you are quite scummy seems silly. My opinion on these countries hasn't really changed that much in the past 15 years and if it has, its been in the wrong direction for sure.
It's a nonsense argument mate
How does mainstream media carry on congratulating City when they know for a fact that it is empty and worthless?
Watching MOTD and it’s cringeworthy.
Are they THAT worried about lawsuits?
Watching MOTD and it’s cringeworthy.
Are they THAT worried about lawsuits?
In that case, why don’t they call it out for the farce that it is?
Its because they have to keep up the pretence that the league is fair and competitive so as not to risk fans gradually losing interest. Its the same for mainstream media in general - if interest wanes so will the number of viewers/listeners/clicks etc
If City are found guilty and punished accordingly the exact same sources will villainise them to capitalise on audience sentiment
They will, they have had 10 years or more to prepare.
It's that and it's also little, quite pathetic, things like City looking after the media very well. I've heard from more than one smug cnut journalist on football podcasts that City's hospitality is by far the best in the league. City feed and water them well so they're not going to risk spoiling that little perk of the job.
It’s all these things… plus the fact that City haven’t been convicted. Until the case is tried, there is only so much you can reasonably expect broadcasters to say.
Everyone knew Lance Armstrong (and pretty much all top riders at the time) were juiced to the gills. You never heard a peep about it during races - nor would you expect to.
Currently watching their game against Everton and think it’s fecking hilarious that a treble winning team has tons of empty seats at home. What a pathetic club.
There's no way the PL gives them any substantial punishment. They will be under pressure from the UK Government to tread lightly, just like they put pressure on the PL to accept the Saudi's coming in at Newcastle.
Abu Dhabi have been pretty influential in Manchester and London since the takeover and the UK Government have benefitted enormously from this, they won't want to jeopardise that relationship and punishing City meaningfully would achieve that.
Abu Dhabi have been pretty influential in Manchester and London since the takeover and the UK Government have benefitted enormously from this, they won't want to jeopardise that relationship and punishing City meaningfully would achieve that.
Yeah this is pretty much exactly how I feel
Feels like media and the league are gutless
Aye for sure. Happy to have them there so long as they’re making money
If this is the case then they should never have brought the charges in the first place.
Anything other than a substantial punishment is not going to cut it at this point, and the PL know it.
If they are found guilty.
If not, the PL will hold its hands up and say, "well we tried"
Why? What’s going to happen if they don’t do it?
How will they explain it?
Everyone knows what they've been up to, so literally just don't charge them if you're not then going to follow it through.
To whom do they need to explain themselves and what is to happen if they don’t? I just don’t understand what the fallout is supposed to be if they don’t. I believe people will moan and then move on.