The Premier League charging Man City is basically the other 19 clubs isnt it? There are a lot of powerful owners in those clubs and if they somehow let City get away with cheating then I dont know what that says apart from City has made the Premier league its bitch and they can get away with almost anything.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome
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He's not in denial. He is complicit in the obstruction, obviously.
I think it will take a few years for this to go through. City are obstructing and trying delaying tactics to help their (weak) defense.
City shouldn't have signed up to the rules if they weren't going to follow them. The time for trying to end the rules was before they agreed to them.
I mean it's pretty basic stuff that shouldn't be hard for you to get your head around.
His association with City only became a thing in 08
This is going to get Liverpool into the champions League isn't it?
None of the pundits or other media will question them because their bosses know how aggressive City are with their lawyers. Their tactic is not to provide a defence as they seemingly don't have one, but to pursue anybody who accuses them for anything and everything. Until the case is over it's too risky to accuse them of anything, but if they are found guilty I think we will see the floodgates open in the media.
My money is on them being found guilty and getting some kind of delayed transfer ban and a hefty fine. Make the league look strong but open the door for more dodgy money to flow into the league's bank accounts (but please be more careful not to get caught next time Mr. Sheikh Al-Oil Field)
They are a team very much on steroids and in a grim way it is very interesting to watch just how good a football team you can make with zero limitations, pretty much a real life Football Manager experiment.
The PL is hugely corrupt (as is all of football). It's a dark and shady industry, nefarious and full of wronguns and con men. This was bound to happen. The game has a huge issue, due to the money at stake.
Sounds odd but take Allardyce, finally got his dream job and is still looking to take some back handers from a random person. He's a millionaire, earning huge sums of money yet is doing dodgy deals that ruin his reputation and standing in the game. But now he's managing again, so perhaps they all know it doesn't matter, you'll always get another job, you can always make some more dosh.
Same thing with City, they know they will never be punished because the league's image as the best in the world is at stake.
If we have the best league but all those title races contained a cheating club then it was all, basically, scripted reality TV. They don't want the integrity and the competitive nature of the league called into question, they have TV rights to sell.
The PL is hugely corrupt (as is all of football). It's a dark and shady industry, nefarious and full of wronguns and con men. This was bound to happen. The game has a huge issue, due to the money at stake.
Sounds odd but take Allardyce, finally got his dream job and is still looking to take some back handers from a random person. He's a millionaire, earning huge sums of money yet is doing dodgy deals that ruin his reputation and standing in the game. But now he's managing again, so perhaps they all know it doesn't matter, you'll always get another job, you can always make some more dosh.
Same thing with City, they know they will never be punished because the league's image as the best in the world is at stake.
If we have the best league but all those title races contained a cheating club then it was all, basically, scripted reality TV. They don't want the integrity and the competitive nature of the league called into question, they have TV rights to sell.
This is a worry of sorts to me. Sacrificing the integrity of the competition in order to maintain the appearance of integrity. Or its so hilariously corrupt that theres no point in addressing any individual problems and all thats left to do is deny and deflect.
IIRC, he didn't actually ask for money but talked about putting the undercover reporter in contact with someone dodgy, right?
US sports just like everything else across the pond are all about $$$ with the closed shop leagues and the insane number of commercials. Just not the best example to use.
Otherwise I agree.
It's why Lance Armstrong got away with it for so long. He dominated cycling for so long that he became too big to take down without irreparably damaging the sport.
It happened eventually, but football authorities won't have the balls to deal with this.
True and to make $$$ long term you need fair sporting competition.
Football clubs bar Utd are just cash burning machines. That'll always be the case with current structure.
Football financial crash is coming.
Had to laugh at Pep calling for a quick decision yesterday...... after City's lawyers doing everything they can to frustrate and obstruct the process!
So be it!
A load of nonsense.
Remember Robinho thought he was joining United. Believe me very few outside the UK and Ireland knew there is a club called Manchester City until their financial doping driven success. For most, Manchester = Manchester United.
US sport is highly commerercialised, true, but their major leagues are much more competitive than the Premier League. The wealthiest teams simply aren’t allowed to buy sustained dominance like Man City have. The people running those leagues know that competitiveness is an important factor in getting the punters in.
You lost me at "Manchester City have put together an incredible squad at a lower cost"
Pep/City: We want this resolved, in 24 hours, today is better, get the lawyers together and let's get it resolved
Also Pep/City: We refuse to co-operate with any investigation.
Can't stand these pricks.
Also Pep/City: We refuse to co-operate with any investigation.
Can't stand these pricks.
He finds it funny…
US sports leagues are closed shop and that where they completely lose their appeal.
I have no problem if a wealthy team has sustained dominance as long as it is done fairly. If you are successful, you should be rewarded and if you fail, relegation is fair and someone else gets a chance. If you are able to build on your success and have sustained dominance, there is nothing wrong with that.
The problem comes in when a state or an extremely wealthy individual buys a club and creates a very uneven playing field. FFP was created to prevent this but unfortunately City have not played by the rules.
Yeah when I said ‘surrounded by yes men for 30 years’ I meant in his Oasis career (since 94). Thus explaining why he’s such a wanker.
Exactly.
I find it hard to believe that any Man City fan honestly believe's they are 100% innocent at this point, the fact they are once again going to court to try to wrap all the charges in red tape and havent produced any of the evidence of their innocence they claimed to have in their embarrasing club statement says it all.
I dont really care about anything Pep says about it as he is just the face of the outfit and will always claim to know a lot less than he probably does.
I dont really care about anything Pep says about it as he is just the face of the outfit and will always claim to know a lot less than he probably does.
Then you are not conflicted. You want them to be punished but are sceptical it will happen to the fullest and fairest degree.
Sounds legit
Disliking US sport because it is a ‘closed shop’ without regular promotion or relegation is just your personal preference, and irrelevant to the issue of teams being able to dominate leagues purely due to financial clout.
It’s an objective, measurable fact that US major leagues are *much* more competitive than the Premier League is at the moment.
I spoke to a lad at the weekend who was exactly this.
Was 100% adamant that they had done nothing wrong and would be found innocent like that had been previously.
Couldn’t have been a more clear case of burying one’s head in the sand. It was mental
Isn't that simply because of the draft system and the salary cap? The former could not exist here and the salary cap would be difficult to implement in a non closed league.
Of course he does. Rules don’t matter to him.
Yeah that's exactly what Ziegler said too
Yeah at least @padr81 knows that his team could well be in a lot of trouble,however is unsure they will be found guilty
Let's just do the European super league than. Will be very competitive. Fantastic.
They pretend they’re not bothered, like when they used to cry about how they don’t care about winning about the CL.
What a childish response. That’s not what I’m saying at all.
When I was growing up, Manchester City fans used to tell me that United were ruining football with money and commercialisation. Then again, look at the state of our Qatar worshippers.
Yep, OT was full of daytrippers and City was the real grassroots club for Mancunians. Many that I knew have flocked back to County now they're doing well, the ones that have stayed act like spoilt babies.