City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome

[Traub]

It’s decided by an independent panel, not the PL

Ahh ok I didn't know. Still, what I outlined is a middle of the road coward way out, so I can definitely see it being the outcome.

 

[Heinzesight]

When does PL v MCFC Part II (2018 - present day) start?

 

[Oranges038]

I see a lot of City aggregator accounts tweeting they suspect it will be a fine and citing the Athletic but don't actually see anything on the Athletic.

It's tagged on to the end of the Haaland new contract story.

And what of the 115 (actually 129) charges, the eternally mentioned subject when speaking of City’s successes in the Haaland era? The general assumption among football fans has been that the club will be found guilty and heavily punished, but if Haaland is staying not just for a while, but essentially forever, what does that mean for the situation?

Nobody knows for sure right now, with a verdict expected to be reached in March, but City have always been confident and some with knowledge of the situation, speaking anonymously to protect relationships, think that the sanction City face will not be more serious than a fine. That remains to be seen but the club’s recent activity in terms of transfers and contract renewals would seem to reflect that feeling. City were not planning to spend much money this month, but the injury situation and their poor form changed all that.

Right now, the club do not appear concerned and that is something rival supporters have started to notice.

Neither the threat of punishment nor the club’s current on-field struggles have prevented Haaland signing on for more. This is one of football’s most remarkable deals in every way.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

This is all I read @KiD MoYeS

Thanks, I did find it in the Sam Lee article. It's a throwaway line basically suggesting City are operating under the presumption it will be a fine. I'm guessing that it was City have argued for as a punishment but if they're guilty it will need to be more severe.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

It's tagged on to the end of the Haaland new contract story.

Thanks. I can never trust those aggregator accounts. If this was a more concrete story, it would be headline material. The same article does also suggest they will get heavily punished so they have offered both scenarios.

 

[Squeaky_Bum_Time]

This is probably the last attempt to curb the increasing dominance of Arab petrostates on European football. It’s come too late anyway but it is a last ditch effort.

If this fails, get used to the new world. European cup finals played in Saudi, Qataris being guaranteed Ligue 1 titles, UAE almost guaranteed PL titles, multiple world cups in GCC countries; that’s all the tip of the iceberg.

I see the top leagues playing full game weeks overseas. Growing influence of Arab petrostates on UEFA and the champions league. Proliferation of ownership of European clubs in more countries as they chip away at regulations and as clubs and leagues buckle under economic pressure. Sure some fans will protest, but then the money on offer will quiet them down quickly, we’ve seen how lacking in principals the clubs and their fans are (see Newcastle).

 

[SilentWitness]

Thanks, I did find it in the Sam Lee article. It's a throwaway line basically suggesting City are operating under the presumption it will be a fine. I'm guessing that it was City have argued for as a punishment but if they're guilty it will need to be more severe.

Unfortunately these throwaway and rumour stuff is usually close to the truth. It was similar to when we got point deductions.

I wouldn't be surprised if City have managed to do a Leicester and they get off with a fine due to loopholes that the PL have left wide open for clubs to take advantage of with smarter lawyers than they have.

 

[hobbers]

If they’re found guilty of any of the 3 main types of charges and then not given any real punishment I think I’ll completely jack in being a football fan.

I could maybe stomach a case where there’s insufficient evidence or some stupid loopholes that get them off, but getting convicted by the panel of flagrant cheating and then not punished would be an irredeemable outcome for football.

 

[AdamColeBebe]

If the PL were smart, it will be a massive fine plus a decent point deduction (something like 15-20 points) for this season - City aren't going to win the league anyway, so effectively something which takes them out of the champions league for one season may be deemed as 'fair'.

So they'll be out of it for one season then the season after it will be like none of this ever happened.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

If they’re found guilty of any of the 3 main types of charges and then not given any real punishment I think I’ll completely jack in being a football fan.

I could maybe stomach a case where there’s insufficient evidence or some stupid loopholes that get them off, but getting convicted by the panel of flagrant cheating and then not punished would be an irredeemable outcome for football.

True, but even if they're not found guilty, there's enough in the public domain to enable to form a critical judgment that they have cheated.

 

[decorativeed]

Of course City are carrying on with a business-as-usual attitude. They - well, their owners - believe 100% that they can get away with anything, and that they have the cash to buy their way out of any situation. Nobody at any point in their lives will have given them any other suggestion.

 

[Precaution]

Sir Jim is probably hoping nothing comes off this either, means he'd probably be like feck it too and go off spending what he wants, PSR will be dead in the water if City get a fine and at this point it already seems like it is

 

[Irwin99]

I wonder what Everton, Forest and Leicester will think of this if there’s not even a points deduction. Even if there is one and it’s a meagre 15-20 points that’s still taking the piss.

 

[Withnail]

There are rumours it's just going to be a fine.

A ridiculous punishment for the crime.

It's like getting suspended for mitching off school.

 

[RedRocket9908]

They arnt going to just get a small fine if found guilty when the Premier League spent 4+ years and a hell of a lot of money on this whole thing

 

[Berbaclass]

They arnt going to just get a small fine if found guilty when the Premier League spent 4+ years and a hell of a lot of money on this whole thing

It's not up to the PL to decide their punishment.

 

[RedRocket9908]

It's not up to the PL to decide their punishment.

I know, its the independant panel that decide the punishment which is another reason why it wont just be a small fine

 

[ExecutionerWasp001]

Sir Jim is probably hoping nothing comes off this either, means he'd probably be like feck it too and go off spending what he wants, PSR will be dead in the water if City get a fine and at this point it already seems like it is

Wasn't he trying to get government funding for a new stadium?

Don't really get the argument that other clubs will do what they want if City get off lightly. Unless you have an owner who's willing to invest Billions for no return a clubs spending is governed by it's legitimate revenue. This actually makes it easier to let City off the hook as there's only City & Newcastle with rich enough owners to be able to do what they want.

 

[Lay]

If it's just a fine then we can pack up the EPL as a serious league.

 

[Salford_Red83]

Rumours from where?

Trust him bro