City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome

’Tyranny of the majority’ makes no sense :lol:

If they’re not kicked out of the football league I’ll probably just ignore the Premier league. Won’t have to pay Sky too.
This is definitely existential now!
 
The Irish Connection said:
’Tyranny of the majority’ makes no sense :lol:

If they’re not kicked out of the football league I’ll probably just ignore the Premier league. Won’t have to pay Sky too.
This is definitely existential now!
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I’ll just switch to watching the WSL and the Championship. Seen a lot of both last season or two and it’s more than entertaining enough.
 
Im yet to find a single blue who’ll call this out, even now they’ve more or less admitted breaking the rules. They’re like Trump supporters at this point.

It all feels like a desperate last attempt to derail the league’s case, and I hope they Get the worst possible punishment.
 
As much as we will all delight in City getting what they deserve, this ultimately is a terribly sad story of how a club was taken advantage of by some extremely wealthy people for their own selfish reasons. Brainwashing it's gullible fan base with promises of greatness and success like that of their mighty neighbours and rivals. But will probably return to the hole they crawled from IF the club is relegated to which ever tier of football, leaving it languishing at the bottom of the football pyramid for Decades, with its name forever tainted.

City fans should absolutely despise the owners for potentially ruining their club, instead they defend them to the death, how tragic.
 
Scanny said:
I’ll just switch to watching the WSL and the Championship. Seen a lot of both last season or two and it’s more than entertaining enough.
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Yeah, I’ll probably watch more League of Ireland. I like basketball too but NBA is on at all hours.
 
subotai said:
Your erudition is clearly beyond reproach, and I love your contributions, but this is overlooking the possibility the poster might be aware of this. In which case, their point still has legs.
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Alright. I think it's safer to assume that whichever lawyer wrote the text is at least vaguely familiar with political philosophy, rather than them being from a non-democratic country. Most lawyer names I've seen mentioned are distinctly Western. Their chief legal counsel is British, as is the guy leading the FFP thing.
 
Hopefully this pisses the PL off even more and they simply expel them from the league.
 
giggs-beckham said:
Does that mean there are 8 clubs on their side on this?
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Yes potentially and you'd imagine Newcastle and United will be In there considering our ownership models, can see Chelsea, Forest as well. Possibly Palace and Everton too.
 
Oh, anyone remember this story from February?

The Premier League is facing the threat of legal action from a club over amended rules around commercial deals.

League officials have not named the club but informed all 20 of the threat at a shareholders' meeting in London.

The legal threat concerns whether the Premier League's rules are compatible with competition law.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68253004
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At least we know for certain who the club are now...
 
jigen said:
FFP is clearly illegal. You can't stop an owner from putting his money into his company.
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Good job no one is stopping them then.
The premier league has a set of rules that you have to adhere to. No one is forcing Man City to participate in the competition.
 
The depressing thing about all of this is that City just celebrated lifting the PL trophy only a couple of weeks ago.

It's like why celebrate winning the competition if you essentially want no competition? What is the end goal here?

Feels like we are just watching the soul being sucked out of football as time goes by. Even the talk of break away leagues, relegation, expulsion, it just taints the whole thing doesn't it? I'd love to see us reclaim top spot fair and square, but everyone is just waiting around for this judgement day.

Is the Manchester Derby going to cease to exist? Will people lose their jobs? How do City move forward as a reputable club from this? 6 in 7 titles isn't enough? The CL treble last season. Like what is the message they are actually sending right now as a club?

The "sporting" element of the most followed sport in the world is slowly becoming more and more irrelevant. The City saga is more akin to an episode of Suits, and is so ill-fitting to the sports arena. But the general media apathy to what is happening before our very eyes shows just how effective the sports washing has been.

Kind of scary really, because it's not just sporting records and titles on the line, but potentially people's livelihoods, incomes, futures, families and much more.

Be wary of the hand that feeds you.
 
So how do the people on here who were drooling over City's "achievement" of winning 4 in a row feel now?

There's just nothing legitimate or commendable about what they've done, and the club have confirmed it with their actions today.

This mutinous action should see them obliterated and all the ill-gotten gains given back or struck off.
 
I have always advocating banning of State owners which is just not sustainable and kills of every other real competition. Virtually no single billionaire or corporate can fight against the resources of a State. I'm not sure why it even was allowed to happen for City and Newcastle, notwithstanding the potential political influence they might have on the sport in the country.
If they don't wish to play by rule, they should just form a new league called the State League. Let all the State owned clubs spend unlimited money in their team and show off their shiny assets to everyone. Just leave the premier league and other proper league alone.
 
Sadly as their statements read and the news of this I think the gov will.get involved and smooth things over. They have threatened that it will stop funding in the community which is basically code for anything they were doing infrastructure and investment wise the gov were benefitting from. Maybe the election could have some say in this.
 
So to sum it up, their position is "We are rich and powerful, and expect to be able to get our own way and do what we want, so you'd better allow us to cheat to our hearts content, otherwise we are going to bully you until you do".

They don't want a competitive league. They just want to destroy the competition to promote their awful "brand" that everyone hates anyway.

How can any fan of any club support this?

The only type of person who is actually in favor of this are those 12 year olds who play Call of Duty with aimbot on, then mock the rest of the lobby for losing to them.

I'm curious to see what type of ridiculous mental gymnastics City fans will be performing in order to defend this.
 
"hello, we have won 6 of the last 7 league titles including record number of back-to-back wins, a treble that's only been done in England once, and numerous record breaking point tallies. Us winning every league title for the next five or so seasons is probably more likely than any other of the 19 clubs in our league winning 1 in that same timeframe. However, the rules in place in this league are stacked against us and we are victims of elite clubs who will always be above us. It's a miracle that we are able to find the time to chuck a few coins at buskers in the local area from time to time in between the *cough* packed trophy parades we constantly have to go on. Woe me, ours is a story of strength, courage and resilience worthy of any. How do we do it? Who knows? Every trophy we win is a greater achievement than Leicester's league title which - why the feck not whilst we're at it - was handed to them to stop us on our worthy crusades."



Pretty much.
 
If they get the trophies taken off them, you can guarantee Mourinho is having an open top bus for that 2018 win.
 
City showing everyone what they really are, and how they got to where they are.
 
Judas said:
Would the lower leagues even accept them? Can't see championship clubs being happy to have them there.
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They would. They're now a famous club, so League 1 and League 2 would love the attendance. I could be wrong, though. Hope I get the chance to find out.
 
jigen said:
FFP is clearly illegal. You can't stop an owner from putting his money into his company.
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Perhaps City should try to claim that this points nonsense (or any other rule that is a condition of being in the PL) is illegal as they should just be handed the title every year without playing a game?
 
Wibble said:
Perhaps City should try to claim that this points nonsense (or any other rule that is a condition of being in the PL) is illegal as they should just be handed the title every year without playing a game?
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Exactly. Why should they have to follow the rules when their owners are rich?

We should award them the FA cup every year as well, or at the very least give them a bye straight to the final.
 
Freak said:
This is going to be bad for them. If they lose the case you can bet the FA will throw the strongest punishment against them (hopefully relegation and stripping of titles)
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I hope this happens, but unless I'm mistaken (very possible!), the FA don't decide what punishment City get for the 115 charges, they just decide if they're guilty.
 
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