City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome

The question is why the state of Abu Dhabi is so interested in football (City) and go against all odds making more enemies along the way to fight UEFA, PL when people accused them of using football for sport washing. Is this not counterproductive?

Or it there something bigger than sport washing?
They want soft power. They already run Manchester.
 
This is the scourge the league let in and bedded down with. Now, they’re trying to destroy the fabric of the game as we know it.

Let’s see how the media treat them for this. It’ll be the biggest indication yet that they’re in cahoots if they entertain this scandalous behaviour.
 
I don’t see why anyone would back City. Surely in the vast majority of clubs favour to get rid of them.
Not really. The vast majority of them dream of being courted and swept off their feet by some sheikhs. They won't want to eliminate that possibility by punishing City.
 
Not really. The vast majority of them dream of being courted and swept off their feet by some sheikhs. They won't want to eliminate that possibility by punishing City.
The PL is only two clubs away currently from having the power to do whatever they want with them.
 
I don’t see why anyone would back City. Surely in the vast majority of clubs favour to get rid of them.
This has been discussed before in this thread; City have been procuring favour (votes/backing) for some time now. Clubs who are making fortunes off of their dealings with them are not going to want to see them gone, and the sweetener in place should they win is worth their while. City have been systematically planning for this moment for years.
 
This has been discussed before in this thread; City have been procuring favour (votes/backing) for some time now. Clubs who are making fortunes off of their dealings with them are not going to want to see them gone, and the sweetener in place should they win is worth their while. City have been systematically planning for this moment for years.
Not doing it very well if more than half of the clubs have gone against them.
 
The PL is only two clubs away currently from having the power to do whatever they want with them.

City will not make such bold move against everyone if they don't already secured some backing themselves in order not to be kicked out of PL. They will not make this amateur mistake.
 
City will not make such bold move against everyone if they don't already secured some backing themselves in order not to be kicked out of PL. They will not make this amateur mistake.
They've already made many amateur mistakes which is why they find themselves in the position they are currently in.
 
They've already made many amateur mistakes which is why they find themselves in the position they are currently in.

You will be surprised what they got up the sleeves. Watch the space. I don't think they can be so easily dealt with when they even defeated UEFA and cheated in PL for so long without any major consequences. We are talking about a team of world class lawyers and group of people with influence even with top people in the country.
 
Fair to say this would ruin the league if successful. Indeed it could even precipitate a breakaway league. This is a dangerous moment for English football.
 
We all thought the Super League was the death of football but this could be it. City have more powerful lawyers than the PL
 
City have one club that would support them, and that is Newcastle.

They have unlimited resources, but in this context, legal resources are abundant. City have made the premier league focus all their resources on this ahead of the 115 charges case. All a game.
 
Imagine if allowing these nation states to masquerade as football clubs is what destroys the Premier League and competitive football in England.
 
Imagine if allowing these nation states to masquerade as football clubs is what destroys the Premier League and competitive football in England.
And many fans, even of other clubs, cheered this shit on, thinking they might be next.
 
We all thought the Super League was the death of football but this could be it. City have more powerful lawyers than the PL
Thankfully it's not a question of who has the most powerful lawyers
 
I think it's getting to the point where the non sports washing clubs should start getting together and threatening to break away from the Premier League.

If the sports washers get free reign to fiddle the books even more than they currently are then there will be no point in even trying to compete.
 
City fans and there club are really taking the approach of if we can’t do what we want we will try and ruin everything.
 
That won’t happen. A better example would be the German resistance to a DFL proposal a few months ago. Fans kept throwing tennis balls on the field and annoyed the shit out of officials. They got everything they wanted in the end. Don’t boycott games. Sabotage them. Make sure that everybody understands that there won’t be any regular football being played until the issue is resolved.
But in order to pull this off, English fans would need to organise. And to me they appear like a completely unorganised mess, split into tribes that hate each other more than they love their sport.
I would just get rival fans to turn up in 115 shirts for every city game. It would be embarassing simply for city because it goes out to a global audience. And it shows that the rest of football is united against them.
 
I would just get rival fans to turn up in 115 shirts for every city game. It would be embarassing simply for city because it goes out to a global audience. And it shows that the rest of football is united against them.

Don’t show up. No fans, no players - nobody. Forfeit the games and let them win the league with 114 points. Celebrate whoever comes second as the Champions.
 
I think it's getting to the point where the non sports washing clubs should start getting together and threatening to break away from the Premier League.
Hope they do. We got Brexit Jim. He'll only leave the country for tax reasons. He wouldnt take a British institution out of Britain.
 
Don’t show up. No fans, no players - nobody. Forfeit the games and let them win the league with 114 points. Celebrate whoever comes second as the Champions.
While I wish that was the case, that level of commitment and organisation would be very hard. As one poster has already stated, the culture in this country is that we are quite mute when compared to the rest of Europe e.g. the french.
 
Good. I’m glad City have taken the nuclear option. More media and more attention. The worst case scenario was this gets swept under the rug.
 
City Twitter fan completely missing the point that if City win it'll completely destroy the Premier League


I have little doubt that “fan” accounts like this are just paid for PR fodder to add noise to the argument.
 
I hope they will win.

Then we can move on to the super league and completely feck off the PL and FA

Then we can declare "normal" football dead and i can find another hobby
 
Wonder if they're the ones supporting city ?




Someone should point out that we didn’t spend like they did to get to the top. I think we’re the 6th or 7th highest spenders of the 90s. Basically, it took the drive and talent of a great coach, and not financial doping.
 
What a pathetic club.

Who on earth would give one single shit if they were erased from football? They add nothing to the game.
 
Wow this sportswashing lark must really work for all the effort they seem willing to go.

It'd surely be easier and probably cheaper for them to just walk away and buy a proper club at this point, or better still just walk away.
 
Even Pep's had enough and is bowing out next year. It's about to go down isnt it
 
I don't know how much cause you have to show or exactly what kinds of legal proceedings would surely be instigated, but I'm pretty sure the PL can vote to kick a club out with the support of 75% of the members.

That's the ultimate nuclear option but I really do wonder whether some of the owners might start leaning that way if they lose this case. City's position ultimately boils down to the proposition that they can flout the spending rules completely, in a way that massively advantages them over any other club, and the league cannot stop them or impose regulation. Not only does that threaten to destroy competition within the PL, thereby devaluing the product, but it puts the rest of the league in a position where they need to lose money to have a chance at competing. Its just ruinous from a business perspective.

Basically, I think this is existential for the Premier League. That doesn't necessarily mean kicking City out is the only option in response (the anchoring rule may be an alternative, as I mentioned previously). But they're not going to just do nothing if City wins this fight because they can't afford that. The owners collectively have way too much invested.
 
City will not make such bold move against everyone if they don't already secured some backing themselves in order not to be kicked out of PL. They will not make this amateur mistake.
They have nothing else to lose at this point. They have all the money, but can't spend it with their fudged income and they are about to get hit big.