The problem for City in offloading players is the wages those players get (and will expect to be matched elsewhere if they leave). I don't now how much Dzeko (for example receives), but I imagine it's a lot, more than most clubs can afford or will be willing pay.
City agree £30m fee with Swansea for Bony
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The problem for City in offloading players is the wages those players get (and will expect to be matched elsewhere if they leave). I don't now how much Dzeko (for example receives), but I imagine it's a lot, more than most clubs can afford or will be willing pay.
True, but City are the #1 club for partly subsidising player wages to get them out of the club. If it did come down to it, I'm sure they'd do the same with Dzeko.
From the interviews I did see of him a while back, he didn't seem the sort who'd sit on a fat contract and not play, whether that extends to him being willing to take a pay cut for a clean break, I don't know. Either way, I believe City'll work something out with the buying club if they have to.
Just to clarify, Negredo has effectively already being sold for £27m (incl. loan fee). Valencia have an obligation to buy him at the end of his loan.
Also, once City comply with FFP this season, we won't have any restrictions in place next season. So we may as well spend whatever money we have left in this window. £30m may seem overpriced, but Bony is 26 and a player not reliant on pace. If he replicates his Swansea form for City, with players like Silva, Toure and Aguero to support him, you're looking at a striker who could realistically bag at least 20 goals in all competitions for the next 5 or 6 seasons.
As for our midfield, I fully expect a big central midfielder to be signed in the summer. There's talk in Italy of a move for Pogba and domestically for Barkley. Either would be great, although Pogba will almost certainly represent better value due to the extortionate amount Barkley would cost. Plus, he is much more likely to be a genuine world class talent for us.
Also, once City comply with FFP this season, we won't have any restrictions in place next season. So we may as well spend whatever money we have left in this window. £30m may seem overpriced, but Bony is 26 and a player not reliant on pace. If he replicates his Swansea form for City, with players like Silva, Toure and Aguero to support him, you're looking at a striker who could realistically bag at least 20 goals in all competitions for the next 5 or 6 seasons.
As for our midfield, I fully expect a big central midfielder to be signed in the summer. There's talk in Italy of a move for Pogba and domestically for Barkley. Either would be great, although Pogba will almost certainly represent better value due to the extortionate amount Barkley would cost. Plus, he is much more likely to be a genuine world class talent for us.
You have transfer restrictions next season too, not sure if it's a net spend of 40m again, though.
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I seem to remember that part of their FFP punishment was a stipulation that they can't increase their wage bill for the next couple of seasons or something like that so they'll have to watch that, too.
I agree with all of what you say balu and what you say sarni except the bit about Bony being just a decent Prem striker but that's just semantics.
I was in no way saying it was a good deal for City. It isnt considering their limitations with the FFP. Simply that if you want a club's best player mid way through the season with them having no hope in hell of getting someone even close to being that good, you have to pay top dollar. Once they wanted Bony, the price was always going to be in the region mentioned. There was nothing
about it. Another thing is that with the ACON imminent, he isnt a short term purchase either, they've just gone ahead and done the deal 6 months in advance accepting to pay the extra premium if it means he'l half a year more to settle and with his quality be invaluable in their push for the title.If for instance, we decide to buy another striker this window and go for say a Cavani, it'l be a fee north of 45mil. It'd be poor business for us considering what we need but the fee itself shouldn't generate any
s as that kind of a fee is inevitable once you decide you want such a player in Jan regardless of whether you need him or not. The selling club doesnt give a feck.I'm not sure how you get to that. Aguerro is constantly getting injured. They now have another quality goalscorer to step in. Can't see how this does anything but strengthen a title challenger.
Rojo and Shaw are more about 45, plus Nani's loan and wages. How did you get 32?
Yeah my bad I meant £42m. Shaw was around £27m and Rojo was around £15m I think.
Aha. I thought it's 28+1 for shaw, and 16 for Rojo, or something like that.
Everyone forgets Pellegrini played 4-4-2 last season. I fully expect Bony and Aguero to be given plenty of chances to start matches together and form a good partnership.
I'd presume he'd still be playing it had he two fit strikers at any one time?
It generally works too except for in the Champions League; can understand a manager not wanting Nasri, Navas and Silva, given all are similar sizes and none of them great goal scorers (all sub-Mata in that department). Leaves an awful lot of pressure on the one striker and Toure, that formation.
Dutch media saying deal agreed for £27m but personal terms yet to be reached. No rush given Bony won't be available anyway.
Hmmm, strange, didn't Swansea, Man City, and Bony's agent all say that the personal terms were agreed, but not the transfer price?
Don't think so. Bony's agent in the interview with Skysports I seem to recall just mentioned the issues were regarding money between the clubs and the player himself. Bony wants the move and City want Bony so it's simply a matter of when a compromise is reached. The Sun have reported Bony has demanded 200k and Goal.com have said he will take Nastasic's 75k a week wages. I imagine he'll earn around 90k a week with plenty of bonuses dependent on appearances and goals.
Who do you think will drop out of the CL squad?
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...nsfer-news/jovetic-could-make-way-man-8409193
I think talk of Jovetic being dropped is wide of the mark.
I doubt they're in any rush to do the deal as they'd be paying for him to be on international duty, with the risks of injury that that brings.
I don't think Jovetic will be. I imagine we'll sign Bony and tell him this season we're going to stick with the squad we have submitted already and he can be part of it next season. He'll also know he will have a better chance to establish himself domestically as he will be fresh to play any games before and after the CL games.
If we do put him in, I'd bet on it being at the expense of one of the sub-full backs as the article suggests. Probably Sagna because Pellegrini seems to like bringing Kolarov on as a LM to help see a game out.
At first , i thought this was a poor transfer, over hyped player and wouldn't cut it at the top or a team not being built around him, but replays etc and recent showings have very much impressed me, for a player with a good 5-10 years left, proven ability in the league, very smart buy IMO.
Yup, at first i thought that it was too much, but when you think about it, he will give them what they need and in football goals are priceless.
For me, the only remaining question is that of whether he can play with as a player in a team, rather than a team playing to him... but I can't imagine him having a bad return either way, don't think he was meant to be a starter but a good level rotation, how long has been in UK? He wouldn't count for the HGN Quota would he?
No he wouldn't be a HGN, he came too late (23?), now he is 26. His age can be seen as a problem though.
If he gets the game time he will be a solid signing for them. My only worry would be him having to compete with Dzeko and Jovetic for a place in the side beside Aguero. If City go one up front for big games he obviously won't oust Aguero. But then with Aguero's injury problems he could be the main man for them at many points throughout the season.
Sky sports reporting it as a done deal.
Pretty good signing but not a spectacular one.
Pretty good signing but not a spectacular one.
They are already under investigation by uefa
They will have to balance the books so I can see Jovetic being sold, anyone with half a brain should use their need to sell against them, reports that he's available for 25m are ridiculous he must have played 15 games in 2 seasons.
No need to sell anyone. We have £13m left over from the summer, then we're getting £24m for Negredo in the summer. Plus we should be getting £10m from Schalke for Nastasic in the summer. Sinclair will get us a couple of million this transfer window too.
Where did you get that extra £13m from? I must have missed a few transfers.
You signed Fernando (£12m), Mangala (£32m), Caballero (£6m) and Zucculini (£3m), plus Lampard and Sagna on a free. Now you're adding Bony for around £30m.
You sold Rodwell (£10m), Garcia (£13m) and released Lescott and Barry. Did I forget anybody?
P.S. Plus, according to Telegraph, "the full fee for Porto defender Eliaquim Mangala now being confirmed as £42million, rather than the £32m reported by the club at the time of his arrival."
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Have you a source for the £24m for Negredo???
The german press says Nastasic's price will be 9-10m € and not £10m.
And have you any news on Milner??? Will he sign a new deal or is he deffo off in the summer???
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-agree-28-million-fee-with-Swansea-City.html
This article mentions the £24m for Negredo plus some reports say they also paid a £3m loan fee.
Nastasic's price was from BILD but that was a couple of days ago before it was official so the price could have changed since then.
Don't know anything about Milner, be surprised if he left though. He's played a lot of football this season and in all his interviews he makes it clear he does want to stay. Although he was in great form and then got benched for Navas for several games which if I was Milner would have pissed me off no end.
According to our lovely Hayley 
and to make room for Bony on and off the pitch
We both were wrong about Nastasic's price 2m € for the 6 month loan deal and then 13m € as option to buy.......so £12m for City in July
I totally agree with you about Milner....he deserves a starting XI place and new contract with a big pay rise. IMO he's the 3rd best player (behind Aguero and Silva) this season.
But i would be shocked if Valencia would buy Negredo for £24m.....he has scored just 2 goals in all competitions this season.
and to make room for Bony on and off the pitch
First of all cheers
We both were wrong about Nastasic's price
2m € for the 6 month loan deal and then 13m € as option to buy.......so £12m for City in JulyI totally agree with you about Milner....he deserves a starting XI place and new contract with a big pay rise. IMO he's the 3rd best player (behind Aguero and Silva) this season.
But i would be shocked if Valencia would buy Negredo for £24m.....he has scored just 2 goals in all competitions this season.
According to our lovely Hayley
and to make room for Bony on and off the pitch
First of all cheers
We both were wrong about Nastasic's price
I totally agree with you about Milner....he deserves a starting XI place and new contract with a big pay rise. IMO he's the 3rd best player (behind Aguero and Silva) this season.
But i would be shocked if Valencia would buy Negredo for £24m.....he has scored just 2 goals in all competitions this season.
Nothing to be shocked about, it's a done deal.
Yeah, Milner is definitely up there with our best players this season. After Silva and Aguero it's between him, Nasri and Toure but the latter three all started below standard.
I wouldn't be against selling Jovetic. I keep hearing how he has all this potential and most City fans seem amazed whenever I say I don't particularly rate him. He just hasn't done anything in a City shirt yet to really win me over. He doesn't really fit in with our team as his best position seems to be behind the striker but that would limit Silva's influence. I imagine we'll end up selling him and he'll do really well elsewhere but I don't think Jovetic and City are a good match. I'd love him to prove me wrong though, obviously, he works hard on the pitch and is a likeable character.
Will help them gain interest/fans in Ivory Coast (and maybe other parts of Africa) too.
Eh? They've got the best African player in their squad already.
I would have thought that with Ivorian and 4-time African footballer of the year Yaya Toure on the books, City already had that covered.
Okay...
I don't see how that goes against my statement that it will "help them gain interest/fans in Ivory Coast (and maybe other parts of Africa) too."
Oh fair enough. I guess there's no further interest to be gained then.