Christian Pulisic | Signed by Chelsea

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Seems to obvious to go for him, we’ll probably spunk £60m on Rebic instead.
 
Even though Willian is currently the better play, I would rather go for Pulisic.

Probably go for around the same price, if not less. 10 years younger with bags of potential even though he is inconsistent but at 19 that is expected, look at Martial a player many of us love, including myself. Apparently he is a Man United fan who lived in England for a short time when he was younger. Oh let's not forget the marketing side of things with him being American, Wodoward would surely love that! Just depends if Mourinho wants him or not.
 
Harry190 said:
62 million is a very reasonable price for the guy. Better than Hazard at the same age.

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Hazard was miles ahead imo. Hazard had 7 goals 11 assists in the 2010/11 league season when he was 19/20 years old and 20 goals and 18 assists in the 2011/12 league season when he was 20/21 years old. Pulisic will be 20 in about 1.5 months time.

That's just looking at output and not at his superior overall play.
 
Mainoldo said:
I hope he stays and we go for him next summer.
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Agreed, despite the reasonable price we wont go for him under the current manager, it's clear that the priority for the winger is that he's a defensive grafter, Pulisic puts his yards in and works hard but physically he is lacking in that aspect.
 
JPRouve said:
He couldn't even lace Hazard's boots at the same age.
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Faut pas exagerer non plus.

Pulisic at the same age, has already played against much better opposition, in a much better league than the Ligue 1 was when Hazard plied his trade in France and is more important to his national team than Hazard was.

Fewer games though.
 
Harry190 said:
Faut pas exagerer non plus.

Pulisic at the same age, has already played against much better opposition, in a much better league than the Ligue 1 was when Hazard plied his trade in France and is more important to his national team than Hazard was.

Fewer games though.
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It's not an exaggeration, Hazard was probably the best teenager formed in France ever, at 18 years old, he was by far the best player in the league. The closest to him is Mbappé and he isn't even that close.
 
SS said:
Is he? Wasn't Hazard a big part of the Lille team that did the double at around that age?
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Yes, Joe Cole was playing there at the same time and some people at Chelsea got wind of how good Hazard really was. They snapped him up immediately. Paid about £33m for him which at the time was a large fee.
 
blue blue said:
Yes, Joe Cole was playing there at the same time and some people at Chelsea got wind of how good Hazard really was. They snapped him up immediately. Paid about £33m for him which at the time was a large fee.
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Eh, he was probably the highest rated young player in Europe at the time, not some gem Chelsea found hidden away.

Pity Sir Alex was so against the agent fee.
 
JPRouve said:
It's not an exaggeration, Hazard was probably the best teenager formed in France ever, at 18 years old, he was by far the best player in the league. The closest to him is Mbappé and he isn't even that close.
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I can almost agree with that, almost. Mbappe is better than he was. I'd argue Benzema was just as promising.
The standard was very low.
 
JPRouve said:
It's not an exaggeration, Hazard was probably the best teenager formed in France ever, at 18 years old, he was by far the best player in the league. The closest to him is Mbappé and he isn't even that close.
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I never knew Hazard was that good as a youngster. I mean I knew he was excellent but not that absurdly great. Was he also considered to be a potential all time great or was the hype more tempered in his case?
 
Harry190 said:
I can almost agree with that, almost. Mbappe is better than he was. I'd argue Benzema was just as promising.
The standard was very low.
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you're talking as if the French league is some 3rd rate league like Belgium or Croatia or something. The standard wasn't "very low" at all. It wasn't EPL or La Liga standard but it was still decent, and a good place for a young player to start off.
 
Harry190 said:
I can almost agree with that, almost. Mbappe is better than he was. I'd argue Benzema was just as promising.
The standard was very low.
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Nope, none of them were and I really love both. Hazard was the heart of a pretty good team and standards weren't low at that time, it happened a little bit later for a couple of years.
 
JPRouve said:
It's not an exaggeration, Hazard was probably the best teenager formed in France ever, at 18 years old, he was by far the best player in the league. The closest to him is Mbappé and he isn't even that close.
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I guess the words «in my opinion» should be included here.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I never knew Hazard was that good as a youngster. I mean I knew he was excellent but not that absurdly great. Was he also considered to be a potential all time great or was the hype more tempered in his case?
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He was truly great and he made the team very good by himself particularly in the last third, it was near impossible to not concede even though they had average players. Mbappé and Benzema had very good teammate and they weren't the heart of their teams, just two extremely talented additional pieces.
 
I'd say he's a bit of a gamble, but there are people at United who get paid a lot of money to make these decisions, he's clearly available, he can play in a position we are weak, and although I'm not interested in the commercial aspect of such a deal, on face value they seem positive, the club needs a lift so unless we have something huge lined up then I'd take a punt.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I never knew Hazard was that good as a youngster. I mean I knew he was excellent but not that absurdly great. Was he also considered to be a potential all time great or was the hype more tempered in his case?
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I think the hyperbole is a bit over the top here. But as I recall it back then, signing Hazard at the time was basically a no-brainer decision to acquire the next world class winger in the game.
 
B20 said:
I think the hyperbole is a bit over the top here. But as I recall it back then, signing Hazard at the time was basically a no-brainer decision to acquire the next world class winger in the game.
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He won Young POTY in France, two times in a row, and then went on to win POTY, again two times in a row. He was an exceptional talent. Never understood why Utd backed down because of agent fees.
 
Re Pulisic - Since we are also linked with him: I'd rather we seal the deal on Fekir this summer.

I don't think Pulisic is ready to be more than an exciting squad option for a big team just yet. A lot of money to pay for that if you have other priorities to deal with as well.
 
Hazard was universally regarded as the biggest player coming through the French league since Zidane.
He won consecutive young player of the year and player of the year awards as youngest player ever which was a first.
There for sure was a lot of hype surrounding him when he was 18/19 and talk of him being an European great.
 
onemanarmy said:
He won Young POTY in France, two times in a row, and then went on to win POTY, again two times in a row. He was an exceptional talent. Never understood why Utd backed down because of agent fees.
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One of the biggest mistakes Fergie made towards the end of his career. £7m, which were the agent fees we bulked on, seems peanuts now. Raiola took a reported £15m in agent fees from us the summer we brought Zlatan, Pogba and Mkhi (all his clients). Fergie towards the end of his career got a bit obsessed with "value in the market" and let his disdain for agents get in the way of us concluding important business.
 
The commentator on Danish tv said that we, Liverpool, are after him. First I've heard of it.
 
Rob said:
The commentator on Danish tv said that we, Liverpool, are after him. First I've heard of it.
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Hasn't Klopp been champing at the bit for him? I swore I read every couple of months last season Liverpool wanted him. Can't see where he would get into your side though.
 
Nick7 said:
Hasn't Klopp been champing at the bit for him? I swore I read every couple of months last season Liverpool wanted him. Can't see where he would get into your side though.
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Maybe in Coutinho’s old position as #10? They did try to sign Fekir to play him there, didn’t they.
 
Why compare Hazard to Pulisic?

Don't underestimate the challenge it is for a 16 year-old American with no European experience to adapt to a different culture, learn the German language, settle into the professional squad, and start within one year of making the move. To achieve what he as by the age of 19 should tell you all you need to know about his level of play and what his coaches think of his potential.
 
Nick7 said:
Hasn't Klopp been champing at the bit for him? I swore I read every couple of months last season Liverpool wanted him. Can't see where he would get into your side though.
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I can see a club with American ownership being especially motivated going after Pulisic. He’d be marketing gold for the American viewership. Always thought his next stop would be either us or Liverpool.
 
Nick7 said:
Hasn't Klopp been champing at the bit for him? I swore I read every couple of months last season Liverpool wanted him. Can't see where he would get into your side though.
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I haven't read anything about it. It'd be nice if we were after him, though, and I'm sure we'd find room somehow.
 
Rob said:
I haven't read anything about it. It'd be nice if we were after him, though, and I'm sure we'd find room somehow.
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Pulisic is a great all around player, the fact that he is only 19 is incredible to me when I watch his game and listen to him talk. Well beyond his years in maturity and discipline. Martial is a better goal scorer, but I think Pulisic is a better all around player with much better effort and leadership qualities. I would love to see Martial go to Dortmund w Pulisic coming back in return. The kid would get a lot of playing time here and would enhance the performance of players around him - I never felt like Martial was that type of player.
 
There we go again. Now Chelsea wants him. In 5 years there'll be people enviously wishing Real Madrid snatches him just like some of our supporters are doing right now with Hazard.
 
Massive Spanner said:
you're talking as if the French league is some 3rd rate league like Belgium or Croatia or something. The standard wasn't "very low" at all. It wasn't EPL or La Liga standard but it was still decent, and a good place for a young player to start off.
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It was a 2nd rate league, always has been. Between 2007-2012, post- dominant Lyon, pre-Qatari PSG, the league reached its nadir. He was very good indeed, he'd make cameos on Telefoot every other week but the truth of the matter was that he was an outstanding talent in a league which provided no real competition on an individual level.

Pulisic is also less of a prick in real life, just like Mbappe, shows composure off the pitch that belies his age. Surprisingly enough and thankfully, that also counts for a club like Manchester United. There's a human element to it that has persisted since Fergie left. You only have to listen to the multiple interviews from and since then to find out that United looks at the complete package and not just the talent. That explains why many have been signed or are still here.
 
Harry190 said:
I can almost agree with that, almost. Mbappe is better than he was. I'd argue Benzema was just as promising.
The standard was very low.
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Benzema was a force of nature, was sure we'd get him back in the day. It's hard to be objective give the media hype around Mbappe but I'd argue Hazard was just as good at that age.
 
Valencia's Left Foot said:
Pulisic is a great all around player, the fact that he is only 19 is incredible to me when I watch his game and listen to him talk. Well beyond his years in maturity and discipline. Martial is a better goal scorer, but I think Pulisic is a better all around player with much better effort and leadership qualities. I would love to see Martial go to Dortmund w Pulisic coming back in return. The kid would get a lot of playing time here and would enhance the performance of players around him - I never felt like Martial was that type of player.
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I know absolutely nothing about him, but the transfer muppet in me now wants him badly.
 
Are we even linked with this guy? Would love nothing more than an exciting, promising right winger as we have not have that since Nani, but there seems to be little evidence of any real interest from United.
 
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