Christian Pulisic | Signed by Chelsea

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Massive Spanner said:
How am I? All I'm saying is facts. We've spent a lot of money and we were the ones who broke the world record fee on a player, not City. I agree they have bigger resources, of course they do. I just don't think there has been anything from their side so far to suggest they're any more likely to break the record than clubs who have already spent far more on single players like us and Barca. No doubt it's possible that they will at some point but I don't think they're remotely as likely to as PSG who don't seem to particularly give a toss about transfer fees for players.
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I agree that PSG is more likely to do so, but so much of City's project depends on having the biggest title in world football. And if what it takes to win it is breaking the transfer record, then I think they would do it.
If it's previous market behaviour you are looking for, PSG had also not even come close to breaking the world record transfer fee before last year. They hadn't even come close. Cavani was their most expensive player and he "only" was 64 million euro. And then last year they did it twice ( I know Mbappé was a loan deal but we all know what PSG did there to overcome FFP rules).

My point with City, is that they have the hunger and the financial backing to do so. We have shareholders to answer to if we spend a half billion.
 
Mani said:
Buying Pulisic not going to block Chong's elevation into first team, two players vying for one spot as we don't have any atm for the RW.
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Buying Pulisic would mean Chong playing as back up,which means lesser playing time for Chong which could affect his development. Why would we want to do that?
Also we have Lingard as a RW back up, Chong is too talented to be a mere back up
 
Sanche7 said:
Buying Pulisic would mean Chong playing as back up,which means lesser playing time for Chong which could affect his development. Why would we want to do that?
Also we have Lingard as a RW back up, Chong is too talented to be a mere back up
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Mourinho said on the tour that Chong is not ready and will spend the season mostly playing away from the first team.
 
Sanche7 said:
Don't think Pulisic is ready either
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I agree. I actually think we're trying to get an experienced player for the right wing in part so we can bring Dalot through at RB (I don't think José would ever sign off on two kids playing on the same flank).
 
Sanche7 said:
Buying Pulisic would mean Chong playing as back up,which means lesser playing time for Chong which could affect his development. Why would we want to do that?
Also we have Lingard as a RW back up, Chong is too talented to be a mere back up
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We can't base our transfer strategy on Chong evolution as first teamer we should bring who ever we believe would sort out our right wing immediately and for future as well , if Chong is as talented as some believe him to be then he should have no problem earning that spot rather than it being handed over to him .
 
I'd much rather have an experienced winger for now, from who Chong can learn. It will take at least 2 years before Chong is ready for the first team I think. That's why Perisic or Willian makes sense.
 
onemanarmy said:
I'd much rather have an experienced winger for now, from who Chong can learn. It will take at least 2 years before Chong is ready for the first team I think. That's why Perisic or Willian makes sense.
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Totally agree. We need the right wing position to contribute more to our attack and turn some of those draws into wins.

Do we realistically think sticking Chong in the team will bear fruit straight away? It's harsh to do that to him as well. A gradual introduction to the first team with an experienced winger for the next couple of years is the sensible approach.

I would take perisic or willian. Both are dynamic in attack and defend well.
 
Chong looks far too lightweight playing against men in pre-season.

We shouldn't be basing our transfer strategy over what might happen with him - he's at least a year away.

Pulisic would be a good signing, but not convinced he's dynamic or powerful enough.
 
Sanche7 said:
Buying Pulisic would mean Chong playing as back up,which means lesser playing time for Chong which could affect his development. Why would we want to do that?
Also we have Lingard as a RW back up, Chong is too talented to be a mere back up
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Pulisic already played 32 matches in top fight and one year elder to Chong, Chong got lot of development left in him, may in other one or two year from he would compete with Pulisic for the RW where we currently have no one to play.Lingard mostly play as free role behind the striker.Mata is the one who starts at RW and move centrally where we are looking for reinforcement and I again say that two person for one spot is hardly anything.
 
Ramshock said:
You didnt mention money in your original post did you? So it is the same thing
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Nope I didn't. But I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Dalot wasn't going to be first team.

So it's not the same is it?
 
onemanarmy said:
I'd much rather have an experienced winger for now, from who Chong can learn. It will take at least 2 years before Chong is ready for the first team I think. That's why Perisic or Willian makes sense.
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Madness how overrated Chong is on this forum. I suppose it's natural after we've been starved of a right winger for so long.
 
I think this pre-season has actually calmed most people down when it comes to Chong. Practically everyone is now thankfully realising he's at least a year away from being PL ready, could even be longer than that, just have to see how things develop for him this season.
 
I certainly agree with Judas, Chong is a long way off being ready for the first team. He is not even ready yet for going out on loan.

Pulisic is a top talent, he would be a great addition to the team.
 
As an American fan of United, you’d think this would be a dream transfer. However, I really don’t want it to happen because I think Mourinho would stifle his development, if not outright ruin him. He’d probably be playing right back by the end of the year.
 
Jersey Heel said:
As an American fan of United, you’d think this would be a dream transfer. However, I really don’t want it to happen because I think Mourinho would stifle his development, if not outright ruin him. He’d probably be playing right back by the end of the year.
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on the brightside, it would only be for one year
 
Has there even been a single tenuous link to him or are muppet juices keeping this thread going?
 
Jersey Heel said:
As an American fan of United, you’d think this would be a dream transfer. However, I really don’t want it to happen because I think Mourinho would stifle his development, if not outright ruin him. He’d probably be playing right back by the end of the year.
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He already played a couple of matches as r(w)b and did sort of well, so it would be perfect!
 
Think Chelsea might go for him in Jan. Possible transfer ban for them coming up. 18 months on his contract. Hudson Odoi to go the other way on loan as a sweetener.
 
Pulisic to Utd , given our current ownership and his potential marketing goldmine in the US, seems almost too obvious.
 
Thought he did very well vs England..
He plays on the right so ..

Sadly not being 190cm or over his chances of playing for us under our current manager are zero..
 
arthurka said:
Thought he did very well vs England..
He plays on the right so ..

Sadly not being 190cm or over his chances of playing for us under our current manager are zero..
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Being probably the biggest American ‘soccer’ export ever already does make him a MASSIVE commercial opportunity to be fair...
 
50 million would do it and it'd be a quality deal. The guy knows how to play on the right wing, and even if things don't go to plan straight away, he'd still be a great squad addition.
 
He's alright but it's fairly obvious from watching Dortmund that Sancho is the better talent and it tells in their goal and assist output as well.
 
arthurka said:
Thought he did very well vs England..
He plays on the right so ..

Sadly not being 190cm or over his chances of playing for us under our current manager are zero..
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He’s a hard worker and mature for his age. If that doesn’t make him a Mourinho player I don’t know what does.
 
CM10 said:
He's alright but it's fairly obvious from watching Dortmund that Sancho is the better talent and it tells in their goal and assist output as well.
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Sancho all day for me too. He looks really special, a solid shout for regular England international at such a young age, he already has a support network in the area and it would sicken City no end. I’d pay what it takes to get him back. I’d fecking sign both of them and let them and Chong fight it out for the RW over the next few seasons. Problem solved!
 
CM10 said:
He's alright but it's fairly obvious from watching Dortmund that Sancho is the better talent and it tells in their goal and assist output as well.
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Yeah if we can, surely we have to go for the bright talent that starts for Dortmund rather than the one on the bench.
 
I think we'll go for Sancho personally due to him being English and exceptionally talented. But I dont think he's gonna move for a couples of seasons yet
 
United will have to shop in different segments of the market for Pulisić and Sancho, really. Unless he signs an extension, the former will be in the last year of his current contract by the end of the season with a realistic value of £50-70m, or could even be persuaded to sign on a Bosman come 2020 (where the market will otherwise be very busy because of the European Championship and Copa América). As regards the latter, Barcelona set a new benchmark for Dortmund with the ~£135m Dembélé transfer and it will probably take as much, if not more, to tempt them into selling Sancho considering he's on a looong contract and fast-emerging a premier talent in world football, let alone the Bundesliga. With the way football is going (unless you can regularly sniff out bargains to rejuvenate the squad or have leverage in negotiations), building a great scouting network to give you a leg-up on others and someone who can integrate younger players into the team is of paramount importance because 1-2 good season by an exceptional talent (especially an attacking one) and the value skyrockets to absurd levels.
 
He is like a discounted Sancho. Given his contract situation he'll be on discount too.

If we're signing him, must make a space for him. Mata/Sanchez have to leave.
 
Invictus said:
United will have to shop in different segments of the market for Pulisić and Sancho, really. Unless he signs an extension, the former will be in the last year of his current contract by the end of the season with a realistic value of £50-70m, or could even be persuaded to sign on a Bosman come 2020 (where the market will otherwise be very busy because of the European Championship and Copa América). As regards the latter, Barcelona set a new benchmark for Dortmund with the ~£135m Dembélé transfer and it will probably take as much, if not more, to tempt them into selling Sancho considering he's on a looong contract and fast-emerging a premier talent in world football, let alone the Bundesliga. With the way football is going (unless you can regularly sniff out bargains to rejuvenate the squad or have leverage in negotiations), building a great scouting network to give you a leg-up on others and someone who can integrate younger players into the team is of paramount importance because 1-2 good season by an exceptional talent (especially an attacking one) and the value skyrockets to absurd levels.
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I'd rather go for the exceptional talent despite the price difference. Sancho's explosiveness and natural talent with the ball at feet would sort our problematic right flank for years to come.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I'd rather go for the exceptional talent despite the price difference. Sancho's explosiveness and natural talent with the ball at feet would sort our problematic right flank for years to come.
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I don't think any supporter would disagree with that assertion, mate — most, if not all, of us would love for the club to sign premier talents like Sancho and De Ligt and De Jong and so forth rather than players who're a bit below their potential level. However, we will have to strengthen on multiple fronts considering the right side of our attack isn't the only prominent issue, so realistically United is not going to prioritize someone who will decimate the club's transfer record this summer. Mind, it would also be in the player's interest to stay at Dortmund for at least 2 more seasons — he's only 18 and playing regular first-team football (among his biggest motivations for signing with the club), and has no reason to move while he's featuring in one of the most dynamic attacks around under Favre and being mentored by a resurgent Reus, especially to United when we haven't been the best at developing youngsters in recent years — which is a bit unfortunate.

On a side note, we should also be looking at Jović, who's on loan at Frankfurt. One of the more impressive strikers in his age group, and considering we aren't going to just jettison Lukaku in favor of a proven player, signing Jović with an eye over the next 2-3 years would be a sensible approach given his reported clause is quite reasonable (though Frankfurt do have an exclusive option/agreement with Benfica).
 
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