Christian Pulisic | Signed by Chelsea

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I like him, but I'm not sure he's ready yet. Only 4 goals and 7 assists in 41 appearances last season. We've already got a prospect in Chong, so if we did get a RW, I'd rather it was someone more proven.
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I don't think anyone is talking about him for this year though. More like next year when BVB will have to sell and depending on his development.

With regards to Chong it's still very early days. The amount of players that look boss at u18 and don't manage to make the leap to the senior team is, for the top clubs, huge. You can't build for the future relying on Chong to become a starting XI player at United. Pulisic has already made that jump and he's one of their best players for BVB at home in the Bundesliga and in the CL.

We'll see how the year develops.
 
Both Lewandowski and Hummels continued to play in the Bundasliga so hard to judge if they pushed on or just played with a better German team . Pulisic was decent last year but went missing in a good few games not sure if he is the answer could end up being Mhiki 2.0
 
I'm not quite sure where the resistance is coming from here, we signed Ronaldo as an inconsistent kid who wasn't racking up any amazing numbers in terms of goals or assists, and was the same for us for a few seasons. You could argue that Pulisic isn't as talented as Ronaldo was but he's damn well talented in his own right and you'd think the Glazers would jump at the chance to get arguably the biggest talent to come out of US soccer in a long long time
 
L1nk said:
I'm not quite sure where the resistance is coming from here, we signed Ronaldo as an inconsistent kid who wasn't racking up any amazing numbers in terms of goals or assists, and was the same for us for a few seasons. You could argue that Pulisic isn't as talented as Ronaldo was but he's damn well talented in his own right and you'd think the Glazers would jump at the chance to get arguably the biggest talent to come out of US soccer in a long long time
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It's not arguable that he isn't as talented as Ronaldo, in fact it's not even sure that he is as talented as his teammates, Sancho. Being talented also means very little, there is no guarantee that you are going to exploit your talent and the fact that he is american seem to blur people's mind, they put too much weight on that parameter. In the end, the potential fee is at the moment difficult to justify, he is still an unknown quantity, so the resistance is perfectly justified. Now, we could take the risk and win big but we could easily lose even more.
 
I think the club would be willing to shell out the £70M fee for him, he's just as good as a player like Willian but with plenty of room to become much better and also has resale value and huge marketing value, the £70m would be an investment.
 
JPRouve said:
It's not arguable that he isn't as talented as Ronaldo, in fact it's not even sure that he is as talented as his teammates, Sancho. Being talented also means very little, there is no guarantee that you are going to exploit your talent and the fact that he is american seem to blur people's mind, they put too much weight on that parameter. In the end, the potential fee is at the moment difficult to justify, he is still an unknown quantity, so the resistance is perfectly justified. Now, we could take the risk and win big but we could easily lose even more.
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What risk? Financial risk? To be fair I think the possibility on losing on Pulisic if bought on a discount next year, is very small. Martial was a big gamble at the time that didn't end up paying off (judging by the way things are going) but we still stand to make a profit from a potential sale.

Pulisic will be only 20 next summer. If he gets bought for anything <50m and doesn't end up justifying his place at Man Utd after 3 years, we'll easily recoup most if not all of the fee. He'll still only be 23 in that case and even without the inflation of 4 years, you can't buy half decent wingers/AMs for even mid-table clubs for <30m. There'll be a market for him for sure.

If he goes on discount next summer, he's a non-risk for me with a potential high upside. It's an arbitrage
 
MadMike said:
What risk? Financial risk? To be fair I think the possibility on losing on Pulisic if bought on a discount next year, is very small. Martial was a big gamble at the time that didn't end up paying off (judging by the way things are going) but we still stand to make a profit from a potential sale.

Pulisic will be only 20 next summer. If he gets bought for anything <50m and doesn't end up justifying his place at Man Utd after 3 years, we'll easily recoup most if not all of the fee. He'll still only be 23 in that case and even without the inflation of 4 years, you can't buy half decent wingers/AMs for even mid-table clubs for <30m. There'll be a market for him for sure.

If he goes on discount next summer, he's a non-risk for me with a potential high upside. It's an arbitrage
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Your entire point revolves around a discount, so yeah financial risk. When he asks why the reluctance, it's clearly because outside of a discount, he is a financial risk because he is still an unknown quantity.
 
Ramshock said:
Has he been linked or something?
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There was a tweet about kicker saying Dortmund would not let him go unless they received a bid over 70 million euros. Have not seen any reliable links to any clubs. But since kicker came out with that of course every paper will say he linked to the big prem sides
 
Would be frustrating if our rivals, who already have stronger attacks, strengthen while we don't do anything.
 
Wonder what people see in him. He’s not that good as a player. Marketing-wise that’s a different thing, but I thought this bunch is concerned about on the pitch performance not off the pitch finances
 
Haddock said:
Robben? He was 19 or 20. Though that might have been Abramovich. Jose also signed Varane.
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Believe Chelsea had already agreed to a Robben transfer before Mourinho arrived. Seem to recall it came about in Feb/Mar 2004 with the move to occur in the summer. Was definitely a Kenyon move after his mercenary move to Chelsea and after United supposedly underbid in January.
 
MadMike said:
And? That has nothing to do with absolutely anything. Valuations are not based on stats but purely on how much the selling club (BVB) values the player under contract and whether they need to sell or not.

You mean to tell me there is a stat that backs up Chelsea’s current 70m valuation of Willian or BVB’s 147m valuation of Dembele last year? Maybe send Chelsea your stats and they will sell us Willian for 30m, yes?
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I get your point. But I still believe we can get Pulisic for 70m.
Stats are important but it's not everything to valuate a player like you mentioned.
 
The kid isn’t ready for a move to the PL, he isn’t the most consistent even in a Germany, yes the kid has talent but the hype surrounding him is unreal.
 
I haven't seen enough of Pulisic to comment on his potential. However, if I am Chong and I see United sign a 19 year old right winger for big money I'm going to start thinking I should talk to my agent.

Willian ticks far more boxes for me at this moment in time.
 
We should be all over this potential transfer, the thought of having the greatest American footballer playing for one of our rivals truly makes me sick. Especially when we are in need of a Right Winger and Dortmund have interest in Martial who is looking to leave this Transfer Window.

It just makes sense, he has the quality and it's a better replacement for Martial in terms of both value and tradition. Though I can't see Jose favouring this move over someone like Willian, I hope he shows me otherwise though.
 
Quality player, and would be a great addition for any team. I do hope he plays in the premier league one day, but that is probably my American bias showing :)
 
Offside said:
I know which one would give us the better the chance of the title. Willian.
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Unless the RW we sign is Bale, no other player feasibly available in that position is gonna get us close to the title. But signing Pulisic does increase the odds of us having a fantastic player in a couple of years. Signing Willian is neither here nor there, nor does it get us much close to our present goals, neither does it brighten our future prospects much.
 
InLevyITrust said:
The kid isn’t ready for a move to the PL, he isn’t the most consistent even in a Germany, yes the kid has talent but the hype surrounding him is unreal.
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#07 said:
I haven't seen enough of Pulisic to comment on his potential. However, if I am Chong and I see United sign a 19 year old right winger for big money I'm going to start thinking I should talk to my agent.

Willian ticks far more boxes for me at this moment in time.
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Both sensible posts.

People here don't want to part with 60m for Maguire but happy to pay 70m for Pulisic...

Crazy
 
Keeps It tidy said:
Even though Pulisic is younger he is the better player right now.
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I get a PL flop vibe from him. He’s very Young also. Not signing he’d be a bad signing just that Willian is the finished product and would be a lot more effective.
 
keener said:
I'm both an American and a Red Devil and I DON'T want him at United. He's not ready for the spotlight on this level and I don't want him on our 2nd team playing cup games. I want him getting 40 games or more per year and to continue to develop into the player that I believe he can become.
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So am I, and I DO want this signing badly.

He’s a notch under what Martial was at this time last year, younger of course, and should definitely be ready to step in at a larger club. The way I see it, he’s done as much if not more than Dembele did at the same club, all with inferior supporting cast. Also, we have a hole at RW, so he can feature as long as he shows mettle. He’d be more infusion of core, young attacking talent to grow along Pogba, Lukaku, Lingard, Rashford and Martial (if he stays).

He’s a United fan (for feck’s sakes, we need more Red Devil “blood”) and loves the Premier League. Barring the availability of a world class winger, of which Perisic and Willian are not, and God knows neither Bale and certainly not Mbappe or Neymar will join, Christian Pulisic is just the kind of player we need to add for the present and the future.
 
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He's American and a United fan.

If we end up wanting him then he comes here. Simple. Truth is he's not ready just yet and wouldn't particularly offer something we don't have already.
 
George Owen said:
Come on, Mbappe will never play for us. Bale would be fecking awesome, but the rumours seemed to cool down.
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I was just posting something ridiculous continuing in the same vain as your post. We're not gonna get two 70m RWs in the same summer.
 
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