Kane for 50m would be better business then paying 32m for Benteke.
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I have a feeling we will go for someone like Saido Berahino. Another striker I think we should consider is Berardi, a Juventus kid currently playing for Sassuolo. He's young, extremely talented, who wouldn't mind the bench and has a knack of scoring against top sides
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Yeah, and they are all basing that on nothing and still pretending to know the 'list'. He is a decent and I wouldn't mind him if he was cheap but nothing indicate that we are after him at the moment.
we need a target man upfront whose mobile, good at holding up the ball but also pacey enough to get behind the defence. The idea is to bring physicality up front (which we had in the form of fellaini) and combine that with 15-20 goals a season (which someone like fellaini cannot do) . Benteke ticks those boxes and therefore it comes as no surprise that we are linked with him. he would fit well with rooney or as a lone striker. Kane, Lacazette or any other option beiing mentioned in this thread lack that physical presence that Benteke has.
That being said, it would be better to have a striker whose natural movement is to the right side of the pitch. most of our attacking players prefer the left wing (except ander and mata) and for the sake of balance we require a forward whose natural movement is to the right side. If Lukaku wasnt such a douche and didnt have a first touch of a rapist, he would have been ideal.
That being said, it would be better to have a striker whose natural movement is to the right side of the pitch. most of our attacking players prefer the left wing (except ander and mata) and for the sake of balance we require a forward whose natural movement is to the right side. If Lukaku wasnt such a douche and didnt have a first touch of a rapist, he would have been ideal.
Berardi is around 6.1 feet tall
Never saw him, is the hype warranted?
a very creative player but hes skinny and lacks physicality. Thats why Bale would have been ideal. But thats not going to happen this summer for sure. There arent many tried and tested options out there at the moment.
I've said we'll get Berahino for months although I'd prefer Lacazette!
Bale isn't a striker.
Really don't get this line of thought to be honest. It's football, not rugby. Technical mastery, clinical eye for goal, consistency, link-up play, and the ability to separate from defenders using clever movement is paramount for the success of a striker at the highest level, and at the biggest clubs. The over-riding importance of physicality is being trumpeted out of proportion. Some of United's best strikers in the last 20 odd years couldn't hold a candle to Benteke in terms of physical prowess, neither can the best strikers in the Champions League. Were the likes of Van Nistelrooy, Shevchenko, Van Persie, Eto'o, Lewandowski, Benzema built like action heroes to have high levels of success ? No they weren't. And we don't really need the striker to be a house of bricks as long as they can hold the line, bring wider players into action, and be a consistent goal-source, especially as a genuine contingency plan once Rooney starts declining over the next few seasons.
Also physical presence is relevant but not everything. Lewandowski for example is nowhere near as physical as Benteke but physical enough and has the other strengths you'd want from a top striker.
Bale has been playing very effectively up front for Wales. Ronaldo "wasn't a striker" until he was - and Bale has the skills to make the same transition.
Neither is Berardi..i think we need a wide forward for the right side who has a physical presence. Bale can play there
Ronaldo plays off Benzema/Hernandez. So you're saying Bale will do the same and not become the central striker?
Invictus, I like you but screw you, rugby is more than physical abilities, technique, speed of thought, durability, flair, tactical nous, intelligence are the base of the game.
Are you talking about strikers or right forwards? Given this is the Benteke thread I thought the dsocussion was on strikers.
You're getting into semantics now - a player who plays in a centrally advanced position and scores a goal a game on average then!
I think the only problem with him is his buyout fee, I rate him as a striker but clearly many don't.
Maybe you are over estimating the importance im placing on physicality. That being said its an important aspect in the league. How do you think fellaini has been managing? Do you think he was being playedbecause he has good movement and offers goal threat. Physicality is an important aspect. Im not saying its the most important.
Absolutely not. There's a reason why Benzema is important for Real Madrid. Or Suarez now for Barca. Ronaldo and Neymar are forwards that play off them.
I'm not saying that Bale couldn't become a striker btw. Although I'm not convinced right now it makes the best use of his abilities. He's better off using the space out wide and then scoring goals/crossing.
It's a new dayAgain!?!
Yeah, on second thought perhaps that wasn't the best comparison. But it is more intimately linked with physicality than a lot of other team sports. eg. An average person could have all the technique and understanding of leverage in the world. But he can still be overwhelmed by raw power in a sport like that. But in football, even below average sized humans (just in terms of dimensions instead of athletic output) like Iniesta or Silva are thriving at the highest level on the basis of their technique. That's all I intended to illustrate with the rugby point. Apologies if you were offended.
Im talking about Benteke, and saying hes what we kind of need but ideally we should get a wide forward whose natural movement is to the right.
I dunno I think he would be brilliant centrally. Either way it looks like Real want to make him the new Ronaldo so we might have to settle for the old Ronaldo
Anyway, Tekkers....
Ah alright. I thought you meant Bale as an alternative to Benteke.
I like him and he seem to love humiliating the top sides. The boy certainly has an eye for goal
Yeah, on second thought perhaps that wasn't the best comparison. But it is more intimately linked with physicality than a lot of other team sports. eg. An average person could have all the technique and understanding of leverage in the world. But he can still be overwhelmed by raw power in a sport like that. But in football, even below average sized humans (just in terms of dimensions instead of athletic output) like Iniesta or Silva are thriving at the highest level on the basis of their technique. That's all I intended to illustrate with the rugby point. Apologies if you were offended.
Little men, thrive in Rugby players like shane williams, Aaron Cruden, Aaron Smith and dozens of other players, the physicality is nice but it can't overshadow the other attributes, in rugby Union.
But to be fair, you didn't precised what rules you had in mind, because the Rugby League is probably the only team sports that relies on physical attributes first.
But on topic, Benteke has a good technique and a decent speed, I'm not convinced about is movements off the ball but overall he is a good player.
Two words: Marouane Fellaini.
Benteke will be a better fit under LvG than Wenger or Rodgers.
I wouldn't mind him. I mean is he really any better than Lacazatte? Sure Lacazatte has more goals, but he's playing in a worse league and playing for a team challenging for the title. Benteke's record in the PL has been good considering who he's played for in the time.
I'd be okay with this if the price is right. We need a striker and it's hard to see who we could sign at a reasonable price. Especially seeing as we're likely looking for somebody to push Rooney to the limit rather than replace him. Benteke is a good player.
No ta. We need to get away from lumping the ball up the field. This reactionary style of football will only get you so far.
If we could get him for 10-15m I wouldnt complain. 30m though, i dont think hes the 30m striker we need.
Saying that I was shocked when we bought Saha and before that Yorke and it wasnt all bad.
Saying that I was shocked when we bought Saha and before that Yorke and it wasnt all bad.
Would be the perfect back up to Rooney, with Wilson being third choice.
He isn't a 30m striker but he is definitely better than 15m, i wouldnt mind spending 28m on him with possible add ons or a loan deal for Evans or Rafael, but thats just me.
We aren't going to pay 32.5m on a back-up striker.
Yeah, wouldn't touch him for that price.
I'd rather pay £50m for Kane than £32.5m for Benteke. He's too much of a battering ram, we've got Fellaini if we want to go route one.
People are underestimating benteke he isn't just a brute that is only good playing off long balls. Benteke has more to his game than that he's actually quite fast for a big bloke and he has very good ball control. He is a decent goalscorer and has now proved he can cut it in this league.
The £30+Million is a little steep though I mentioned this to someone the other day but maybe we could sweeten the deal and include Jonny Evans or something
The £30+Million is a little steep though I mentioned this to someone the other day but maybe we could sweeten the deal and include Jonny Evans or something
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