Christian Benteke | BBC: Liverpool Agree £32.5m Fee

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Well that would explain why he wasn't happy with RVP and Falcao as I didn't see much of that last season!

Ok, I am being harsh on him. As I said originally, he just doesn't excite me. Strikers of his style and stature rarely do. I prefer pace, agility, quick feet, etc. I'd like to see Wilson get more game time as I can see him being exactly the sort of striker I enjoy watching. But if none of this ties in with LVG's plans then that's all that matters.
Isn't he quite quick?

I do think we need someone who can play with his back to goal big time. Neither Rooney (these days) nor Wilson nor Hernandez can do it properly.
 
Prices are ridiculous now. Luiz 50 mill & Sterling 49 mil & Andy feckin Carroll 35 mill.
For me if Bony went for 28 mill I'd want more for Beneteke, can't blame Villa for asking the fee the do. Not sure why people are getting so uptight over the fees United pay, it isn't our cash & if a player is going to contribute to a successful team, then whatever the club decide to spend is fine with me.

Not uptight at all, just stating the obvious. I don't care about the price either if it contributes to success, but expecting to pay the right price isn't a sin. It's mostly for discussion sake.
 
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The links seem to be coming from the Villa side. Genuine or are they trying to get Liverpool to pay up is the question?
 
Tweets seems to be accelerating now, so I'm sure it won't be long before we know if this is classic ruse to get other parties interested, or real interest.
Does strike me as C list option though.

Although when he's fit and on form he's a powerhouse. Imagine him and Fellaini up front together!
 
As for his price tag, Berbatov scored 27 goals in 70 apps for Spurs in the league, and we signed him for £30m - he came to United and scored 48 in 108 apps.

In 88 league appearances for Villa,Benteke has scored 42 goals (only Suarez,Aguero and RVP have scored more in that timeframe - 3 seasons)

Berbatov was a much better player who had technical ability that Benteke could only dream of though.
 
Tweets seems to be accelerating now, so I'm sure it won't be long before we know if this is classic ruse to get other parties interested, or real interest.
Does strike me as C list option though.

Although when he's fit and on form he's a powerhouse. Imagine him and Fellaini up front together!
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I've never watched him play and thought "I wish United would buy Benteke". He's good but I'm not totally convinced if this is a player we should be signing. It's very much a Brendan Rodgers type of signing.
 
Tweets seems to be accelerating now, so I'm sure it won't be long before we know if this is classic ruse to get other parties interested, or real interest.
Does strike me as C list option though.

Although when he's fit and on form he's a powerhouse. Imagine him and Fellaini up front together!

Never, I don't want to imagine or see something like that, if we sign Benteke we can sell Fellaini, he creates nothing as a midfielder and Benteke is a far better striker.
 
Every single belgian other than fellaini was rated highly before 3 years ago. Now every belgian who is a physical presence be that fellaini, benteke, lukaku even naingollan are looked down upon as some sort of tower of a player who doesnt know how to kick a ball.

Why is that? It's like every player has to be a technical magician and players like Drogba make no difference to world football.

I dont want benteke but thats more down to squad rotation once we get a complete RW rather than his technical ability.
 
Isn't he quite quick?

I do think we need someone who can play with his back to goal big time. Neither Rooney (these days) nor Wilson nor Hernandez can do it properly.
Can't say it's an attribute I've ever noticed of him. Not acceleration-wise anyway.
 
Not uptight at all, just stating the obvious. I don't care if it contributes to success, but expecting to pay the right price isn't a sin. It's mostly for discussion sake.

How does anyone actually know how good he'd be in our team, Yorke as previously mentioned never looked as good for Villa as he did at United. Benteke will go for the market price, which is around 30 million pounds. People need to get over it! He fits the style Van Gaal is after, as he has most of the attributes required & I'd guess will do very well in our team. I'm quite willing to see how he goes, rather than get hung up on cost & profile of the player.
 
How does anyone actually know how good he'd be in our team, Yorke as previously mentioned never looked as good for Villa as he did at United. Benteke will go for the market price, which is around 30 million pounds. People need to get over it! He fits the style Van Gaal is after, as he has most of the attributes required & I'd guess will do very well in our team. I'm quite willing to see how he goes, rather than get hung up on cost & profile of the player.

I meant, I don't care either about the price if it contributes to success.
 
There you go again bringing Benzema and Lewandowski into the conversation like i compared him to any of them, you mentioned those players, i didnt, i only compared his stats to theirs after you brought them into the conversation and he was more productive in a lot of areas than Lewandowski (which i didnt expect), although Benzema was clearly better than both.

Lets see... you went from this

To this

To this


...Careful now, with the way you're changing your story, one might start to think you're a liar.

I never told you my view was better, i clearly stated i was open to you criticising Benteke and backing up those criticisms with facts, not fiction... and all you did was make stuff up over the course of the argument, and i also never made him out to be the perfect player, i criticised him in my post were i highlighted his abilities and also said there was room for improvement in his game.



If all the abilities i highlighted make him seem like a really good player to you, then perhaps you need to sit down and contemplate the fact that he actually might just be a really good player.

Fine you can call me a liar all you want but it's abit childish to be honest and as I say seeing your judgment makes me think you haven't seen him play, not me.

Edit: are you a villa fan?(would explain a lot) or just some sort of fella that only watches Benteke play every week or are you a Utd fan?
 
Every single belgian other than fellaini was rated highly before 3 years ago. Now every belgian who is a physical presence be that fellaini, benteke, lukaku even naingollan are looked down upon as some sort of tower of a player who doesnt know how to kick a ball.

Why is that? It's like every player has to be a technical magician and players like Drogba make no difference to world football.

I dont want benteke but thats more down to squad rotation once we get a complete RW rather than his technical ability.


At the moment football fans are going through a thing where small technical players are amazing. Big lumps who batter teams are awful.

Hence Fellaini being everyone's most hated despite being one of our best players last year.

And Kagawa being the best thing ever despite being awful for us.
 
Why is that? It's like every player has to be a technical magician and players like Drogba make no difference to world football.

If Benteke was as good as Drogba was, or if people believed he had the potential to be, then you wouldn't find any objections to signing him on here.

I don't think he has it in him to be a regular fixture in a team aspiring for big trophies, that's my objection.
 
Benteke is a good player, but not 32.5 million pounds good. Granted, we have to overpay for most players (although we did well on Depay, Schneiderlin and Darmian), it's still a large amount of money. I'm wondering why we're not being mentioned regarding Lacazette.
 
James Beattie scored a load of goals for a crap side, never once did I want him at Utd. If LVG signs him then fair enough, there must be more of a player there than meets my eyes. As of right now I think he'd be a thoroughly underwhelming addition to what looks like the makings of a great ball-playing side.
 
Are Birmingham Mail reliable? Generally think the local media, bar MEN, are pretty well clued in so could be something to it.
 
Berbatov was a much better player who had technical ability that Benteke could only dream of though.

Never said Benteke was better, i do agree with you...a bit, Berbatov was definitely more sophisticated and he was really good technically, but ultimately what it comes down to is goals, or did we pay 30 odd million for his technical ability? with the way he was highly rated (Berbatov), and with people bringing up the fact that Benteke isn't "United quality" you would think Berbatov's stats for both Spurs and United would (at the very least) be significantly better than Benteke's...but it clearly isn't.

Only used Berbatov because he is the only £30 million striker we signed from a smaller team.
 
Never said Benteke was better, i do agree with you...a bit, Berbatov was definitely more sophisticated and he was really good technically, but ultimately what it comes down to is goals, or did we pay 30 odd million for his technical ability? with the way he was highly rated (Berbatov), and with people bringing up the fact that Benteke isn't "United quality" you would think Berbatov's stats for both Spurs and United would (at the very least) be significantly better than Benteke's...but it clearly isn't.

Only used Berbatov because he is the only £30 million striker we signed from a smaller team.
Jeez your even delusional enough to think he's a good as Berbatov, do you honestly even watch football?
 
Fine you can call me a liar all you want but it's abit childish to be honest and as I say seeing your judgment makes me think you haven't seen him play, not me.

Edit: are you a villa fan?(would explain a lot) or just some sort of fella that only watches Benteke play every week or are you a Utd fan?

I never called you a liar and my judgement is based on fact......not fiction.

Yes, because as a Villa fan i would be advocating the sale of my best player to a better club (which would be detrimental to my team) on a UNITED Forum, i never claimed to watch Benteke every week...you did, after constantly changing your story.
 
Never said Benteke was better, i do agree with you...a bit, Berbatov was definitely more sophisticated and he was really good technically, but ultimately what it comes down to is goals, or did we pay 30 odd million for his technical ability? with the way he was highly rated (Berbatov), and with people bringing up the fact that Benteke isn't "United quality" you would think Berbatov's stats for both Spurs and United would (at the very least) be significantly better than Benteke's...but it clearly isn't.

Only used Berbatov because he is the only £30 million striker we signed from a smaller team.

You should put the stats to rest, the style and the attributes of the player are more important than his stats with an other team.
 
Never said Benteke was better, i do agree with you...a bit, Berbatov was definitely more sophisticated and he was really good technically, but ultimately what it comes down to is goals, or did we pay 30 odd million for his technical ability? with the way he was highly rated (Berbatov), and with people bringing up the fact that Benteke isn't "United quality" you would think Berbatov's stats for both Spurs and United would (at the very least) be significantly better than Benteke's...but it clearly isn't.

Only used Berbatov because he is the only £30 million striker we signed from a smaller team.
It isn't entirely about goals. Berbatov offered a lot more than what his stats suggested.
 
Thinking a bit more about him he might be a better option than most of the strikers linked to us with the exception of rumours regarding Lewandowski and Müller (which have been complete nonsense of course).

I would prefer him to Cavani, Higuain or even Benzema. But still, 32 Mio is too much.

Seriously? Why would you take Lewandowski and not Benzema, when both players have two very close styles and the same production?
 
He isn't special but he knows how to score a goal, he's young enough to improve, has played in the league and will be a good backup, there aren't many top strikers around/available atm
 
Now why would i do that? when I'm comparing strikers?

Because, the stats aren't the most important point. You are not comparing strikers with the same style, the same attributes, playing for the same type of team.
 
Never said it was, and yes he did...but so does every other player, my original point was about what we really need in a striker.
To varying degrees. Case in point: Benteke.

Not disagreeing with the rest.
 
He would definitely be a big upgrade on the slow ageing forwards we had last season. I can definitely see this happening as we have no hope of signing any of the elite strikers out there who's clubs don't want to sell.
Benteke could definitely do a job and will have quality around him like Rooney, Depay, Herrera, Mata etc who can all score goals and take burden off him
 
I never called you a liar and my judgement is based on fact......not fiction.

Yes, because as a Villa fan i would be advocating the sale of my best player to a better club (which would be detrimental to my team) on a UNITED Forum, i never claimed to watch Benteke every week...you did, after constantly changing your story.
Right so you think by using stats your quoting facts, you are aware that stats usually mean very little and can infact be used to make whatever point you want to make (ie 90% of stats are bollocks, there's a fact for you ;)). If you need facts to rate a player than I feel sorry for you as you are unable to make your own opinions which is genuinely a shame. I also love the FACT that I never said I watch him every week but in fact told you that I am a huge fan of football and the premier league and have been for years and that I watch as many games as possible which includes villa. I can now clearly see that I've wasted my time on some statistician that has never actually watched Benteke play and now suddenly thinks he's Utd quality.
 
To varying degrees. Case in point: Benteke.

Not disagreeing with the rest.

Exactly, every striker brings something different to the table, brute force,technique,dribbling,passing etc, but at the end of the day goals are the determining factor, every other thing is secondary.
 
He isn't special but he knows how to score a goal, he's young enough to improve, has played in the league and will be a good backup, there aren't many top strikers around/available atm
 
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