Christian Benteke | BBC: Liverpool Agree £32.5m Fee

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moonred said:
Not the striker to lead your lineup but good backup behind Rooney. The price being quoted is ridiculous though.
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Prices are ridiculous now. Luiz 50 mill & Sterling 49 mil & Andy feckin Carroll 35 mill.
For me if Bony went for 28 mill I'd want more for Beneteke, can't blame Villa for asking the fee the do. Not sure why people are getting so uptight over the fees United pay, it isn't our cash & if a player is going to contribute to a successful team, then whatever the club decide to spend is fine with me.
 
35 million would get some top strikers but I think Benteke is a gurentee on goals. He'd fit in at United like a glove.
 
He's good, but £32.5M is too much. Honestly, I'd prefer Berahino, simply because he would cost less, is younger and more pacier than Rooney which is what we need. Plus, he's not as established as Benteke, so I think there's more chance of him being content at providing competition for Rooney.

This is assuming the likes of Muller, Lewandowski and Benzema are staying where they are. I think Berahino could be a sensible signing and then next season go for a marquee striker when more options are available.
 
No way he's worth 32 million when we can get other strikers who'd contribute as much for cheaper.
 
TrustInJanuzai said:
Not sure there is any point in arguing with anyone that thinks that Benteke is a good as Benzema and Lewandowski based on stats. I've clearly seen him play as I watch the premier league every week so I know exactly what I'm talking about and I'm not sure it's up to you to tell me that your view is better than mine based on the idea that you see things that just aren't there. I'd kind of understand if you felt he had the potential to reach great heights but for you to make him out to be the perfect player on a level with the best strikers in the world is frankly and joke.
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There you go again bringing Benzema and Lewandowski into the conversation like i compared him to any of them, you mentioned those players, i didnt, i only compared his stats to theirs after you brought them into the conversation and he was more productive in a lot of areas than Lewandowski (which i didnt expect), although Benzema was clearly better than both.

Lets see... you went from this
TrustInJanuzai said:
From the times numerous times I have seen him play
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To this
TrustInJanuzai said:
From the times I have watched Villa games over the last few years
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To this
TrustInJanuzai said:
I've clearly seen him play as I watch the premier league every week so I know exactly what I'm talking about
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...Careful now, with the way you're changing your story, one might start to think you're a liar.

I never told you my view was better, i clearly stated i was open to you criticising Benteke and backing up those criticisms with facts, not fiction... and all you did was make stuff up over the course of the argument, and i also never made him out to be the perfect player, i criticised him in my post were i highlighted his abilities and also said there was room for improvement in his game.

dxadel said:
Benteke is a really skilful player, he knows how to dribble - infact he is sometimes seen in the midfield trying to beat multiple players, sometimes he is successful and other times he gets dispossessed - which is one of his flaws - he holds on to the ball a little too much, which isn't a skill you necessarily want a striker to have although he does tend to draw in defenders giving other players(ideally the ones with pace) enough room to get into the box unmarked..........
he is just 24 years old and he still has room for improvement
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If all the abilities i highlighted make him seem like a really good player to you, then perhaps you need to sit down and contemplate the fact that he actually might just be a really good player.
 
Id have him for £20m-£25m he'd be a good squad player but they are talking £32m, for that money you'd expect better.
 
ChaddyP said:
I keep on changing my mind with this potential signing. Yesterday I thought this was an awful idea. Not good enough all that jazz. Now I'm beginning to warm up to the idea. Maybe with a midfield that can actually give him service he could actually score more goals and become even better. He's a big lad young, he can finish and he has pace. Would be on small wages and probably happy to backup Rooney. He would also stop scoring against us and Liverpool wouldn't sign him.

Tomorrow I'm gonna think hes a big oaf not good enough for our club and is Heskey mkII and Liverpool should spunk their Sterling money on this injury prone Andy Carroll'esc striker.
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am in the same boat as you mate!
 
A player who can hold the ball up and bring the widemen into play would be ideal for this team. Let's us keep the ball further up the pitch, means we can keep constant pressure on the opponents defensive third.
It's bad news for Fellani, this tells me we are looking to duplicate his strengths in other areas as not to miss him when he's dropped.
24, banging the goals in and won't cause a fuss sitting on the bench since why would he come otherwise? He might think he can play his way into the side and why not? Van Gaal has shown he will do just that.
 
Agree with the majority view that he's not worth £32.5m but when I try to think of the list of strikers we can realistically sign I struggle to come with many better options. I'm quite frankly gunna disregard all this talk of Benzema, Lewandowksi, Muller being better bang for their buck because those guys are unobtainable. Lacazette would be preferable but I can certainly see the pros in Benteke, we'll see how it develops I guess.
 
I'd definitely have him, though I imagine that he'll sign for Liverpool quite soon. The United stuff is probably a leak to push Liverpool into paying the clause.
 
Have to say it would be interesting to see us with a proper brute upfront. Is he great with his back to goal and at hold up play?
 
He doesn't excite me at all. That said I'd have him over forking out an insane fee for Cavani, only for him to be Falcao mk 2.
 
Sied said:
He doesn't excite me at all. That said I'd have him over forking out an insane fee for Cavani, only for him to be Falcao mk 2.
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This guy is costing close to a insane fee too. Cavani is a lot more proven at a much hither level. Any signing to turn out to be a Falcao mk2.
 
If LVG wants him, I trust him. Not the glamour option but I could see him banging them in here.
 
As for his price tag, Berbatov scored 27 goals in 70 apps for Spurs in the league, and we signed him for £30m - he came to United and scored 48 in 108 apps.

In 88 league appearances for Villa,Benteke has scored 42 goals (only Suarez,Aguero and RVP have scored more in that timeframe - 3 seasons)
 
amolbhatia50k said:
This guy is costing close to a insane fee too. Cavani is a lot more proven at a much hither level. Any signing to turn out to be a Falcao mk2.
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I'm assuming he won't go for his buyout clause if he's determined to move. Certainly wouldn't be happy if we paid that. Give me Lacazette any day of the week for that money.

I'm still not really 100% clear on what LVG wants from his striker though. If he wants a big lump who can hold the ball up and win crosses, then maybe there's something in this.
 
The Mitcher said:
Lacazette, Bacca before he went to AC Milan are two right off the back. Why not Griezzeman? He would actually be worth 32 million and can perform the wide role along side Rooney.
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No chance we'd get him for £32m.
 
More I think about it the more I like it.

1. £32m is a lot, perhaps too much, but we can afford it easily and his wages will be far less than a bigger name player like Cavani.
2. He is a proven premier league goal scorer. 42 goals in 88 games in a bottom half of the table team is very impressive.
3. He is 24. A good age for any player, perfect for us given Rooney is 29 and Wilson is 19.
4. He will not come expecting to be an automatic starter. Means we will have no problems like trying to play a two forward system or using Rooney in midfield.
5. His size and power offer us something totally different to Rooney and Wilson. Him and Fellaini is an excellent plan B.
 
Griezmann has a 60m Euro buyout clause, no?

We have Memphis on the left, and he isnt a striker that can play on his own.
 
Sied said:
I'm assuming he won't go for his buyout clause if he's determined to move. Certainly wouldn't be happy if we paid that. Give me Lacazette any day of the week for that money.

I'm still not really 100% clear on what LVG wants from his striker though. If he wants a big lump who can hold the ball up and win crosses, then maybe there's something in this.
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I think he wants a finisher first and foremost, the striker is to his system is the final piece of the jigsaw - just there to round moves off. When they're not attempting scoring he wants them to keep the centre backs occupied creating 1 vs 1 situations for the wingers against their fullbacks.
 
settembrini said:
More I think about it the more I like it.

1. £32m is a lot, perhaps too much, but we can afford it easily and his wages will be far less than a bigger name player like Cavani.
2. He is a proven premier league goal scorer. 42 goals in 88 games in a bottom half of the table team is very impressive.
3. He is 24. A good age for any player, perfect for us given Rooney is 29 and Wilson is 19.
4. He will not come expecting to be an automatic starter. Means we will have no problems like trying to play a two forward system or using Rooney in midfield.
5. His size and power offer us something totally different to Rooney and Wilson. Him and Fellaini is an excellent plan B.
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I would be quite happy with it for the reasons you laid out. Either the competition will push Rooney into performing or Benteke will force his way into the team with something to prove. I'd rather us sign a world class monster but this wouldn't be a bad plan B
 
Sied said:
I'm assuming he won't go for his buyout clause if he's determined to move. Certainly wouldn't be happy if we paid that. Give me Lacazette any day of the week for that money.

I'm still not really 100% clear on what LVG wants from his striker though. If he wants a big lump who can hold the ball up and win crosses, then maybe there's something in this.
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Jeez, Is he really that bad?

I reckon someone in the RVP or Lewandowski mould, but there's noone available like that really.
 
25m would be a good deal for Benteke, if we can get him for that fee. Or Berahino much cheaper, could be a decent backup striker
 
I'd be very happy with him tbh, especially as I'd expect him to be more comfortable than RVP was ever going to be on the bench. I would still like to see us add one more attacking option, but am not bothered about the money. With the PL TV deal what it is now, you're gonna see more and more price inflation, I cannot be bothered worrying about prices that much, I'm more worried about getting players to sign on the dotted line for us, and Benteke would be a useful addition to the squad.
 
The Mitcher said:
Lacazette, Bacca before he went to AC Milan are two right off the back. Why not Griezzeman? He would actually be worth 32 million and can perform the wide role along side Rooney.
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Two completely different players. If we really are interested in Benteke, the assumption is LVG wants a strong, physical presence up front. There's not too many available strikers like that out there.
 
Remember last year when it was reported that Woody and Van Gaal have a option A, B and C formular to their transfer business? That is why I think we'll probably sign Benteke. If you cant get Benzema, you cant get Lewandowski and you cant get Muller, who else is there? Benteke seems like the most realistic available option.
 
I'm not sure he has the quality to be a starter for us, but it would be great to finally have a striker who can finish all those crosses we smash into the box.
 
Riz said:
I think he wants a finisher first and foremost, the striker is to his system is the final piece of the jigsaw - just there to round moves off. When they're not attempting scoring he wants them to keep the centre backs occupied creating 1 vs 1 situations for the wingers against their fullbacks.
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Well that would explain why he wasn't happy with RVP and Falcao as I didn't see much of that last season!
amolbhatia50k said:
Jeez, Is he really that bad?

I reckon someone in the RVP or Lewandowski mould, but there's noone available like that really.
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Ok, I am being harsh on him. As I said originally, he just doesn't excite me. Strikers of his style and stature rarely do. I prefer pace, agility, quick feet, etc. I'd like to see Wilson get more game time as I can see him being exactly the sort of striker I enjoy watching. But if none of this ties in with LVG's plans then that's all that matters.
 
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