Chido Obi

Sorry got the ages wrong, the source I read said he was released from their youth and I saw he made his debut for Copenhagen at 17 so assumed it was 16 but it makes it even more significant if he was that young, anyway this is the Obi Martin thread so back on topic I think it will be interesting to see if he is named in the squad for tomorrow
That’s quite literally called shifting the goal posts. It would obviously be more significant if he was let go at an older age. But yes then let’s get back on topic.

Three finishes are three finishes regardless of quality.
 
Leave him as far away from the current first team mess.

But give him a big chance during preseason and see how well he takes the instructions onboard.

Feel like he deserves a chance before then, however suspect Ruben will take his time on it
 
None of those 3 goals were particularly good finishes if that makes sense.

Or maybe they are, as they all count..

Yes, to me that is encouraging. Good #9s should know how to score boring goals.
 
None of those 3 goals were particularly good finishes if that makes sense.

Or maybe they are, as they all count..
Makes it even better. Some young players like to score the perfect goal over scoring scrappy goals. But at the end of the day, a goal is a goal and that’s what counts for strikers.
 
It further reinforces what a rare monster Rooney was at that age. Will we ever have another goalscorer like him? sad face emoji

Rooney physically dominated men on the pitch at 14 - (according to Kevin Campbell who played with him in a reserve-game when Rooney was that age) - doubt we will see someone like that again
 
Rooney physically dominated men on the pitch at 14 - (according to Kevin Campbell who played with him in a reserve-game when Rooney was that age) - doubt we will see someone like that again
Other than his physical attributes, he just had that fighters mentality. It's very rare to see that nowadays imo.
 
We need to ease this lad into the first-team set-up and soon.

We are shy of genuine options and in a precarious financial situation. This is where reserve players can be useful.

Why are we breeding them if not to get into the first-team and succeed?

Let's try.
 
We need to ease this lad into the first-team set-up and soon.

We are shy of genuine options and in a precarious financial situation. This is where reserve players can be useful.

Why are we breeding them if not to get into the first-team and succeed?

Let's try.
I mean, read the thread - many have explained why you don’t just throw kids into the first team. We do breed them for the that eventually, but the leap from u-18 to u-21 is big, and from u-21 to the first team it’s huge.
 
Other than his physical attributes, he just had that fighters mentality. It's very rare to see that nowadays imo.
Everything about him was so rare at that age. Strength, fitness, finesse and hunger. Im afraid there will never be another rooney. We will see another ronaldo or messi yet, but not at that dominance and certainly not at that age. Freak
 
Rooney physically dominated men on the pitch at 14 - (according to Kevin Campbell who played with him in a reserve-game when Rooney was that age) - doubt we will see someone like that again
I think that is just hyperbole that he's come out with. I'm pretty sure he might have been skillful enough to run rings around them, but no chance he's "physically dominating" grown men at that age.
 
I think that is just hyperbole that he's come out with. I'm pretty sure he might have been skillful enough to run rings around them, but no chance he's "physically dominating" grown men at that age.

I don’t see why not. He was built like a brick shithouse. And football clubs weren’t as good at S&C as they are now, so anyone with a naturally strong/stocky physique would stand out.
 
Not fair to put the pressure of the entire man utd fanbase on this kid's shoulders. The little I have seen of him he is very raw. Not a finished product that say rooney was at a similar age, which is very much the exception. Let the kid develop. But it goes to show the desperation of the United fanbase. Such a club needs a man/senior figure to lead the line. This is where to spend the big bucks - in the most demanding position on the pitch - the striker. Even slightly more senior Hojland and Zirkzee have wilted in such a pressure cooker environment.
 
What's his G/A/matches stat this season, overall in all competitions?
 
Has anyone said he's raw yet?
Apologies for the casual post and not having time to read the entire thread. I'll stick to lurking for the most part if nothing is particularly enlightening in what I'm saying.

Would love to pluck a Cantona figure eh out of thin air and stick em in this team. Look how transformative that was for class of 92.

But back to thread at hand, to me it is entirely apparent not yet for this kid. I want him to do well. I want United to do well. We all do. But we need patience. Talking about it only takes us so far.
 
Apologies for the casual post and not having time to read the entire thread. I'll stick to lurking for the most part if nothing is particularly enlightening in what I'm saying.

Would love to pluck a Cantona figure eh out of thin air and stick em in this team. Look how transformative that was for class of 92.

But back to thread at hand, to me it is entirely apparent not yet for this kid. I want him to do well. I want United to do well. We all do. But we need patience. Talking about it only takes us so far.
Not having a go at you just makes me chuckle as every second post talks about how raw he is. Don't think it has been discussed as much on any other youth thread before!
 
Not having a go at you just makes me chuckle as every second post talks about how raw he is. Don't think it has been discussed as much on any other youth thread before!
That's probably because most youth threads are just discussing 17 years old within the context of the U18s and U21s, and so no need to discuss the 'raw' aspect too frequently as that's only to be expected at that age and is what they should be working on in future seasons as a teenager at those levels.

However there's so many calls for Obi to be fast tracked into the first team squad at 17, and so therefore he's being discussed within the context of a potential first team player, coming up against experienced PL standard players - and that's when the 'raw' aspect becomes a more relevant thing to discuss with him than with most 17 year olds being discussed within the context of them continuing to play with the U18's and U21's with team mates and opponents at a similar level of development to them.
 


If he's banging them in at training and manhandling Maguire and DeLigt he'll get a chance beifre the end of the season, no doubt about it. We need to find a spark from somwhere and the INEOS approach currently seems to be to stock the youth team and focus on that so I assume we will see a few debuts before the end of the season.
 
If he's banging them in at training and manhandling Maguire and DeLigt he'll get a chance beifre the end of the season, no doubt about it. We need to find a spark from somwhere and the INEOS approach currently seems to be to stock the youth team and focus on that so I assume we will see a few debuts before the end of the season.
Compared to what media is guessing, he might be introduced a bit later. But of course I would be happy to be wrong and see him earlier.

Think Amorim will want to give as many chances to Zirkzee and Hojlund as possible, plus some experiments.. to see wether they are worth keeping beyond this season. We need to know if we should get one or two strikers in the summer. Chido Obi will get his chance. Really wonder if he can make such a huge step. Rashford had pace. He's got physicality but that can be easily nullified in mens football..
 
If he's banging them in at training and manhandling Maguire and DeLigt he'll get a chance beifre the end of the season, no doubt about it. We need to find a spark from somwhere and the INEOS approach currently seems to be to stock the youth team and focus on that so I assume we will see a few debuts before the end of the season.

If nothing else worthy of a spot on the bench if he's training well and not looking out of place.
 
I think that is just hyperbole that he's come out with. I'm pretty sure he might have been skillful enough to run rings around them, but no chance he's "physically dominating" grown men at that age.

Have you seen the interview where Campbell talks about the first time he played with Rooney in a reserve match.... he certainly looked like he meant what he said

And why is it so unbelievable ? Rooney made his debut at 16 years and 9 or 10 months - and by then he could bounce off almost every defenders for fun. If we assume that this reserve game was just before Rooney turned 15....I certainly believe it could happen. I am not saying that this defender was a beast like Vidic or Terry - but an average built defender - not impossible
 
Fair enough, I was wrong.
This is similar to John Obi Mikel whose middle name was Mikel (Michael actually) and surname was Obi but for some reason in his playing career in Europe was known more by his middle name rather than his surname. Good thing Chido corrected it early on before it stuck.
 
This is similar to John Obi Mikel whose middle name was Mikel (Michael actually) and surname was Obi but for some reason in his playing career in Europe was known more by his middle name rather than his surname. Good thing Chido corrected it early on before it stuck.
Chido's middle name isn't Mikel though.