I mean let's be honest, that would be genuinely impressive - and display a keen eye for goal!
Chido Obi Martin
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I mean let's be honest, that would be genuinely impressive - and display a keen eye for goal!
In our 6 matches before palace we won 4, drew with Liverpool at Anfield and lost 1.
The league season is already gone at this point. I think we can do without potentially ruining the confidence of a record breaking youth player.
So we shouldn't give him any senior football until he's played senior football? That your logic?
I'm willing to put some faith in the coaches deciding when he's ready and I'd rather they get loaned first but arguments like 'he's a child' are just drivel.
He's the same age as Nwareni for instance and we've constantly given lads at 17/18 debuts including strikers. Some times they suprise you and given our need he amongst other youth players should be tested as subs.
The problem is we’re a Højlund and Zirkzee injury away from not being able to field a proper attack. Højlunds the only no.9 we’ve currently got at the club, Zirkzee’s more of a 10 and then we’ve got Amad and Garnacho, that’s four actual attackers, FOUR! We’ve let Antony and Rashford go out on loan, yes they may be shit or not have been featuring anyway but they were still attacking options that could’ve been called upon if needed, we’re down to the absolute bare bones here. If we’re not going to turn to the academy then it mean we’ll be forced to start playing players out of position, we’re already struggling immensely for goals, if we start playing midfielders up top we’re really fecked.
As exciting as he is I'm not sure he's looked better than Biancheri
I'd give him a spot on the bench. When the inevitable happens, bring him on with 30 minutes to go.
Both look good at this level but Biancheri is injured. Now it's Chido's time, Biancheri's time will come
Is this just a case of desperation from posters asking for him to be introduced? I’ve seen people say he’s got a terrible first touch, his all round game is rough…it sounds like he’d get eaten alive in the first team.
Play him last 20 mins against Leicester see how he does. Other teams play 17 year olds
Only hurt his hand hasn't he? He hasn't been out for long but anyway I'm not pointing this out to detract from Chidi but to rejoice over 2 great prospects.
Have you seen the state of our online fanbase?
Why the hell would you rely on people who think footballers should be like FIFA and base their often ranty opinions on the latest clip they've seen?
Sure, the Højlund experiment went so well. lets ruin another young danish talent while we are at it.
Big difference between giving a young lad a cameo here and there and asking another one to be first choice for the next few years.
Nobody is advocating the latter for Obi Martin.
The fans need something in what is a terrible season. A young lad making the odd appearance here or there, maybe getting tje odd goal, would be a bit of spark at least.
I theory I agree, but given how our fans think they will expect Chido to light the stadium on fire and he is not at that stage yet. He is very very raw.
I don’t think Hojlund had as much potential, he was released from Bodo in his teenage years.
Arsenal released Kane, I'm not sure this means much
You mean like Barca played Ansu Fati and ruined him?
I dont know if I want any young talent brought into this total mess we currently have
As for "play him last 20 minutes" - unless we are winning 3-0 against Leicester by 70th (very unlikely) why do you think it is a good idea to put the pressure of turning a game around or seeing slim win through, on the shoulders of a 17yo?
It would secure his place in the team until June at the least.
I don’t think Amorim has any loyalty to players like ETH had so I trust him and his coaches to judge for themselves whether he’s ready for 1st team action.
Personally I don’t think it’s any harm putting him into the match day squad and certainly better than having 2 GK’s on the bench .
Personally I don’t think it’s any harm putting him into the match day squad and certainly better than having 2 GK’s on the bench .
Match going fans don't think like that. Not generally anyway.
But a few sub appearances is still very different to what we've asked of Hojlund. No comparison to be made. Not yet anyway.
Kane was pretty shite until his early 20’s. I remember the guys who make Chanpionship manager had to apologise to him because he was so shit on the game for years, then Tottenham threw him in out of desperation.
Would be the most Harry Kane thing I've heard if he demanded an apology
Absolutely. We should wait until we're NOT a total mess before we bring him in. Although I'm not sure how effective he'll be as a 52 year old.
There is no perfect integration. The kid will have to go out eventually, sometimes in harsh environment. He and Heaven, since Licha is out. Toby got in, had his minutes, had his starter, and life went on.
Right now, team is training as pros, no issues on effort or behaviour (yes, some guys running down the contract, happens all the time), so there is no reason for him not to train and score some benches.
I wasn't being entirely serious there cirilus but yes, I agree with you.
He is not ready yet. we are just setting him up to fail in this current team just like we did with Amorim, a familiar theme
Ineos out, glazers out
Ineos out, glazers out
It definitely would be, but I think it was just an offered apology. Found an article actually, from 2016: https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/f...d-to-harry-kane-for-getting-stats-wrong-58093
I think we can agree there are plenty of years between 17 and 52 Gee, sorry, not personal on your comment, my argument was aimed at the conversation.
Lots of people talking about readiness, but if he does not go in, we will never know if he is ready or not ( Rasmus is not ready and plays,, Zirkzee is not enough quality, but plays aswell).
If he can hold the ball up and pass it to a red shirt he’ll instantly be worth having in the team over Hojlund and Zirkzee.
I reckon he'll make the bench soon
there's no harm in throwing him on for 10 minutes here and there, and it's not like we have many options
there's no harm in throwing him on for 10 minutes here and there, and it's not like we have many options
I know what you mean, and we might well end up having to risk him this soon.
But you mention Toby Collyer - he's 21. Chido is 17. Heaven is 18. Three or four years might not mean a great deal between 24 and 27/8, but at that young developmental age of a teenager then there's a big difference to getting into the first team at 20/21 or at 17/18. One is quite usual, the other is rare and you have to be a very special talent to be ready as young as that.
Hopefully Odi is in that rare group - he certainly looks to have a high ceiling when it comes to potential. But I'm also very certain there'd be little chance he'd be promoted this soon on merit if we weren't so desperate in the attacking areas. So it would be a matter of throwing him earlier than ideal and hoping the gamble pays off - both short term and for his long term development.
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I agree.
For all those who say he's not ready, maybe all he needs is a training montage.
It worked for Rocky...
Yeah and then inevitably plays for U21's on Friday, just keep him with first team instead
Just having a look at his highlights from his recent performance vs City and I have to say, I don't think he looks anywhere near ready for first team football. I've always been keen to see youngsters given a chance when it looks like they could potentially be ready or have an impact, but I don't get that feeling based on these highlights...
I dread to think what would happen to the lads confidence if he made a first team appearance and failed (because he will, barely played for the U21s he isn’t ready yet, like most things we need more patience)
I just don't know how I'm gonna stomach Statler & Waldorf until May. Even though I know deep down this kid isn't ready for first team. That's why I was so annoyed we didn't get a loan attacker.
Confidence would probably be through the roof from making his debut.
Then crushed because he’s brought crashing down to earth?