They'll have to match our bid if they want to trigger the clause. I can't see Arsenal wanting to spend £40m+/- on a player they really don't need now that Ramsey is playing to his potential. Besides, we can offer him bigger wages than Arsenal.
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They'll have to match our bid if they want to trigger the clause. I can't see Arsenal wanting to spend £40m+/- on a player they really don't need now that Ramsey is playing to his potential. Besides, we can offer him bigger wages than Arsenal.
Great player but not what we need if Rooney, Kagawa and Mata are still around.
Ill give it a try...fantastic business
The are no words to describe how good it would be.
What makes you think that we'll not use him in central midfield? I'm presuming that's why we're after him, seeing as we're a shambles there.
Yeah hope you're right
Ah didn't realise they had to match the offer.
Good thing about fab is that Chelsea (who will be our main competition for CMs this year) with mour as their manager-if I remember correctly fab and mour don't get on
Sadly now with no champions league football we'll have to offer a giant wage to tempt him from an Arsenal or any other big club.
If imagine that would be his preferred position too, and where he mainly played at Arsenal.
Absolute waste of time. Lets not spend another month chasing this guy when he doesn't want to come here.
Also, with fab he may be happy to see what happens with barcas new manager. The ace in the hole we had last year was guaranteed first team place in a world cup year. Although that's obviously still important to him, he's getting more first team places now and the panic he may have had over getting into world cup first team squad won't be there now. Would be surprised if he left, but if barca are willing to listen to offers. ..
a year is a huge time in football.
Fabregas' stock has reduced, we've got rid of our negative defensive manager, so just maybe.
But again, aren't they in the throes of getting a new manager? Just like last year a change might completely scupper it.,
The idea of Fabregas feeding VP again though is epic
Fabregas' stock has reduced, we've got rid of our negative defensive manager, so just maybe.
But again, aren't they in the throes of getting a new manager? Just like last year a change might completely scupper it.,
The idea of Fabregas feeding VP again though is epic
No, do not want.
I'd rather spend £15million extra on someone like Vidal.
I'd rather spend £15million extra on someone like Vidal.
Forget Cavani. Let's offer £40m, £50m for Cesc and see if Barca still wanna keep him.
We are on the verge of becoming the slowest team in the bpl with some of our recent addition and current first teamers. Nevertheless, where would he fit? So many things wrong in this rumor and squad balance is perhaps the foremost.
If the rumor is genuine, it could spell the end of Kagawa seeing as we have too many players who could play behind the striker or alongside him. Rather than a creative pairing of Mata-Kagawa, one that compose of Mata-fabregas may not be that bad. However sacrifice to important players has to be made seeing as Fabregas most proficient role is behind the striker. I rather United get a box to box midfielder than another number 10. Chelsea would be a good place for him, but I doubt he will go their because of his history with Arsenal.
If the rumor is genuine, it could spell the end of Kagawa seeing as we have too many players who could play behind the striker or alongside him. Rather than a creative pairing of Mata-Kagawa, one that compose of Mata-fabregas may not be that bad. However sacrifice to important players has to be made seeing as Fabregas most proficient role is behind the striker. I rather United get a box to box midfielder than another number 10. Chelsea would be a good place for him, but I doubt he will go their because of his history with Arsenal.
£50m for Cesc? They'd literally (of the Jamie Redknapp kind) snap your hands if you offered that.
That's insane. I would much rather we spend the cash on someone like Vidal or Kroos than this shitbag.
Offer them £30milion, if they take it then fair play. If they want more tell them to feck off.
£35m would probably get Cesc this summer.
Alan Shearer would think differently. Fergie wouldn't have given a feck as long as he was the right player. Fabregas would be fantastic and the club should do all they can to make it happen.
Fabregas is so good, Guardiola would might even be willing to offload Kroos to us, so he can replace him with Fabregas.
I doubt it. Don't think Guardiola was overly impressed with Cesc at Barcelona if the rumours are true.
If we're once again to court him so publicly we'd better make damn sure we sign him.
What's the guarantee he'll revert back to his Arsenal form? He's been poor for the best part of two seasons. For all know, we could have another Torres on our hands.
I know which player I'd prefer out of the two and it's not Fabregas.
Id rather kroos tbh but that's simply never going to happen
you can't have a buy-back clause structured like that.
Fabregas or Kroos, doesn't matter who... Both absolutely proper targets, worthy of this club.
We should make another bid for Cesc, this time maybe a bit bigger because club won't settle well for Southampton's midfielders.
We need to be serious and bid absolute best. Simple as that.
To be or not to be for Wooden Ed.
We should make another bid for Cesc, this time maybe a bit bigger because club won't settle well for Southampton's midfielders.
We need to be serious and bid absolute best. Simple as that.
To be or not to be for Wooden Ed.
Is there a set fee in this buy back clause?
As good as he is, and as lovely as it would be to see him in a United shirt, if the board have really identified Fabregas as the player we need above all else, then they've no idea what they're doing.
He'd play in centre midfield here. More chance of him coming here than there was last summer but I'd imagine he'd go back to Arsenal first. Wenger would make room for him instantly.
What is Cesc's best position? As I recall he was part of a 3 at Arsenal, but despite being in a 3 at Barca he's been relatively poor.
Let's cut to the chase: Can he play in a midfield 2?
Let's cut to the chase: Can he play in a midfield 2?
There's being out of place at Barcelona, thus being poor, and then there's being poor. Fabregas is an outstanding midfielder, and still boasts all of the skills that made him the best midfielder in the Premier League. I certainly don't see a Torres situation here.
Torres lost his head at Chelsea. Fabregas is still getting 8 goals and 12 assists in 32 appearances at Barca.
Yes, he's a central midfielder.
I think people have forgotten how good he was at Arsenal as a midfielder. This idea he isn't what we need baffles me. A midfielder who can pass and score goals is something we haven't had in years.
He played in a midfield 2 as a teenager in the 2006 Champions League final. Until Wilshere emerged Cesc played consistently as a classic number 8 at the heart of midfield.
This.
They have. They're also getting too caught up on this whole 'midfield 2' rubbish. He could be everything that Scholes was in the heart of midfield provided we offered him his Gilberto Silva to do the dirty work. His vision and final ball is outrageously good, as you say he'd chip in with goals, he is proven over here, too. Fabregas dictating games in the middle of the park with Mata just ahead of him, how could anybody be sceptical of that?
He's easily worth 40 million. Easily. Pople forget just how good he was in this league. Barca didn't suit him but I reckon he'd still walk in here and be the best midfielder in the league.
40 million is a bargain for that kind of quality.
Strong statement to make. It could be that if he was slotted back into a centre-mid position, with the experience he's had at Barca.. he could be a revelation as his dribbling ability and play in tight areas has improved. He is just very unsuited to their style of play - not saying he's definitely better or regressed, but if he is anywhere near his Arsenal level - he'd be what we need.
This! Seriously hope we try and identify a target which won't be taking us for a ride through the summer. I would rather we spunk the cash on Vidal, especially since Fabregas could move to Arsenal if Barca are indeed looking to sell.
It's not necessarily that impossible.
If Barca rate him as a £20m talent within the side whilst United rate him as a £40m talent, money's going to talk. You could then harp on about hometown clubs and whatnot, but there can't be anything more dispiriting than having your own people hate you.
If Barca rate him as a £20m talent within the side whilst United rate him as a £40m talent, money's going to talk. You could then harp on about hometown clubs and whatnot, but there can't be anything more dispiriting than having your own people hate you.
Like I said I'm willing to go into silly money territory for Fabregas. If its true we have put aside £60 million for Cavani we should put that move firmly on the back burner, take the cash and throw it at Barcelona. Fabregas in our centre midfield would be something very, very sweet.
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