It'd be interesting if this happened to us. A part of me wants this to happen so that we have to rely on youngsters coming through.
They are certainly good enough.
They are certainly good enough.
Chelsea banned from signing players
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Tapping up is rife in football. The difference is, Madrid haven't induced anyone to break their contracts. Surely you see the difference?
Like Mikel. Good thing this happened to your lot, it must be said.
I expect it to be overturned
course it will....and Evra will be banned
If not though, their average age will be 40 by the time they can buy again
Roma had theirs reduced to one transfer window, expect the same.
Players going on strike. . . it's all been done before.
I blame Mikel.
Think of the muppets...
a few well placed injuries around the time of the african nations cup and they could be in big trouble. brilliant.
They should just continue signing players. That'd be funny.
I found a very long document on the reduced Roma ban on CAS' site, but it was in French. Would have been interesting to see reasoning behind cutting it to one and comparing it speculatively to the Chelsea case, which we don't know anything about, really. Get to work, Frenchies.
(Since I don't read French I can't actually be sure it's the right file, but the date suggests it is.)
I expect it to be overturned
Imagine if all the top clubs are banned from signing players for the next few transfer windows, I think most other clubs will go out of business as despite their whinging that is the way they stay in the black.
Ironic?
You can't buy this.
Would be pretty shit though if they all receive 4 month bans like the Chelsea kid though wouldn't it!!! All we would have is Welbeck.
the only times clubs that have got pissed at United is when they are not entitled compensation (or very little). Many of those clubs do nothing for these kids just expect them to turn up train and play when required offering, no expenses, education or help of any kind yet expect loyalty when clubs like United or Arsenal get interested.
2 transfer windows just means Jan 2010 and summer 2010. It's not a massive problem for a club Chelsea's size. United could survive it easily, and we might even win something. It's just missed opportunities with targets going to rival clubs.
they can still reach an agreement to sign a player in jan 2011
they arent allowed to register anyone for the next two transfer windows
We've got our very own issue regarding Pogba, I hope we're cleared.
I think that's a very biased view of it - yes in the case of Macheda and Petrucci both players' families felt that they weren't being looked after by their Italian clubs, but equally the big clubs (not just United) do routinely strip clubs of their best young prospects and give them the bare minimum in financial recompense. For smaller clubs (note this does not include those such as Barca, Lazio or Roma) developing and selling youth is how they survive, so to have United or Chelsea come along and snatch your brightest prospect at 16 for next to nothing is a massive blow. Personally I have a lot of sympathy for clubs like Lens and Le Havre who have been raided time and time again by clubs like ourselves, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea, and would go so far as to support UEFA's mooted "no transfers before 18" policy. It's be crude and come with it's own problems, but something needs to be done to allow young talented players to develop at smaller clubs.
Thats big!! If it wasn't such a problem they wouldn't bother appealing then would they. Also remember its World Cup year next summer (Football Scouts Christmas) and the spin of the team isn't getting any younger. Massive boots to the likes of Us, Liverpool and City (Arsenal don't spend money anyway...)
Is there anything stopping them buying players and then loaning them out to other clubs, like they did with Alex? They can buy players they just can't register them, right? I can't be arsed to read the story through again to find out.
Losers
They wanted to do that with Pato this summer supposedly so I assume they'll try to do so.
However I reckon it'll feck up any chance they might have had to sign Ribery.
I can't see why the ban is such a shock to everyone, Chelsea have been warned in the past and had a suspended sentence (I think from the Ashley Cole-saga). Any wrongdoings for the next so-and-so years would have these consequences. They didn't manage to keep within the rules and have been punished accordingly. I hope the sentence stands and I hope this leads to a change in mentality from top clubs in transfer dealings (that includes us, btw).
I can see this being the usual deliberatley harsh ban first which will get reduced on appeal (exactly the same thing as the Eduardo ban).
Anyway, i'm not too fussed about not being able to sign players for a year
that's pretty much what is means, right?), we've got a huge squad and maybe we'll get to see some of our youth players given a chance.
Even though I support one of the richer clubs in Europe, i'm all for protecting the smaller clubs.
Anyway, i'm not too fussed about not being able to sign players for a year
that's pretty much what is means, right?), we've got a huge squad and maybe we'll get to see some of our youth players given a chance.
Even though I support one of the richer clubs in Europe, i'm all for protecting the smaller clubs.
I agree with all of this.
I wouldn't celebrate just yet lads, this is something we do to a degree. Lazio will have something to say if this goes through... This'll start a trend that may involve an investigation into us..
A critical part of the case is that FIFA doesn't have to prove collusion between player and prospective club, you have to be able to prove you didn't entice a player rather them prove you did, that is one of the ridiculous parts of it.
While I am amused, I do think it's double standards from FIFA. I doubt Real Madrid would have been punished for doing the same.
Le Havre are more of a worry than Lazio - Macheda etc had no contracts to break, whereas the accusations coming from Le Havre regarding our signing of Pogba sound very, very similar to the Chelsea case
So you think the best plan then is to wildly accuse the judge and jury of being crooks, and then appeal for a shorter sentence?
Because that's definitely going to work. And it isn't at all going to screw you over every time you blink in the future.
Or when you inevitably get caught again.
Let's be honest - you did this and you've got serious priors. Mikel being a major one. You had to pay us 12m in compensation so that we didn't take a case to UEFA over him.
In the case of Ashley Cole you were caught and your sentence was suspended by the English FA.
You've got big-time priors with stories that dragged on and on (Cole's because he wouldn't stop whinging about it).
This is not a first-time thing, so preaching about the big lawyers and private investigators is a bit rich.
Do you really want to turn the entire power of FIFA and UEFA against you?
Do you think that this is the worst possible sentence that they can hand down to you, or this is the only bit of 'wrongdoing' they can find you to be involved in?
They only bothered because the victim complained.
Though i always like it when chelski are fecked over, i believe this ruling is more related to EUFA and FIFA's dislike for all things english and particularly the premier leage. These feckers did not seem to give a flying feck when italian and spanish teams dominated the cups, flaunted rules regards recruiting players or used their spending power to go for players irrespective of other clubs stance (real madrid). Suddenly the premier league is all evil, the route of all that is wrong with the game.
Hope chelski take them to court and cite restriction of trade and get decision over turned and leave those feckers red faced.
Hope chelski take them to court and cite restriction of trade and get decision over turned and leave those feckers red faced.
Roma got a 2 transfer window ban when they did this with Mexes in 2004 reduced to 1 window when they appealed to the CAS.
But they did not have the prior behaviour pattern that you have, although those cases were in one instance domestic and the other instance settled prior to a formal complaint being filed.
I bet you £1 this ban gets reduced. Not saying it should be, just saying it will be.
Of course it will. This will never stick. There's a slim possibility that they might decide to make an example of you lot and increase the ban to 5 years, but I won't be holding my breath.
My anger at the ridiculous punishment aside I was just wondering what proof can FIFA actually have that the player (in this case Kakuta) was directly induced to breach his contract by Chelsea?
Players under contract, young and old, are being approached by other clubs all the time and now out of nowhere Chelsea are being used as a scapegoat. The severity of the punishment makes me think that it was intended as a strong message rather than a result of fair judgment.
Footballing authorities are waging a war they can't win. Platini's unrealistic plans on turning every club into a self sufficient one in a matter of a few years, the new anti-diving campaign that somehow overlooked the phenomenon for years only to make an example of a single player and now banning a club for two years from transfers because they believe some youngster they signed two years ago was approached illegally.
Who do they think they're kidding?
Players under contract, young and old, are being approached by other clubs all the time and now out of nowhere Chelsea are being used as a scapegoat. The severity of the punishment makes me think that it was intended as a strong message rather than a result of fair judgment.
Footballing authorities are waging a war they can't win. Platini's unrealistic plans on turning every club into a self sufficient one in a matter of a few years, the new anti-diving campaign that somehow overlooked the phenomenon for years only to make an example of a single player and now banning a club for two years from transfers because they believe some youngster they signed two years ago was approached illegally.
Who do they think they're kidding?
This aside, whatever UEFA/FIFA do there is still going to be at least 2 English sides in the CL semis...