Champions League Semi Finals (24th April - 2nd May)

Real is strong and has loads of experience but they are really lucky very often. Zidane is showing to be a very good manager.
Tonight's game was average for both and despite Bayern being decimated they got the better chances.
Ronaldo had a bad game and got away again with a ridiculous dive in the first half. Just shameful for such a great player to recur to these tactics
I am not sure it can be called luck at this point. It just happens way too often. Maybe it's the sheer individual quality they have. No team maybe ever, had as many players capable of scoring out of nowhere as they do. The game could be going in any direction but somehow, Ronaldo, Ramos, Marcelo, Isco, Modric will just do something crazy and find a momentum shifting goal. Their general football quality is not as good as Barcelona at their best or even the best of Bayern but nobody comes close to them when it comes to getting away when on the back foot and capitalizing on so little up front.
 
Liverpool will eat either team alive. Nothing to see

Liverpool can be got at - inexperienced fullbacks, Lovren a mess, Karius liable to chuck a couple in. You give up a lot of chances though, and Liverpool's front 3 is excellent.

10+ goal final is on the cards.
 
If Robben, Boateng, and Alaba are still out for the return leg, we might as well stay at home.
 
Cant help but think Marcelo is possibly the worst kind of match up for Salah, sluggish in terms of speed and constantly out of position. Brilliant in attack mind.
 
We played better than Real, but our finishing was abysmal. We had clear chances for 3-5 goals.
Finishing is part of the game, isn't it? Defensive mistakes are part of the game, aren't they? Sloppy passes?
 
Cant help but think Marcelo is possibly the worst kind of match up for Salah, sluggish in terms of speed and constantly out of position. Brilliant in attack mind.

Can imagine Salah and Ronaldo scoring hatricks. Might be a crazy game.
 
I don’t see any other team with money and ambition going anywhere near him.
Milan absolutely can't afford him. ThereTh about to miss out on European football, and they have a huge financial mess to clear up this summer. There will probably be a change of ownership and management.
 
Cant help but think Marcelo is possibly the worst kind of match up for Salah, sluggish in terms of speed and constantly out of position. Brilliant in attack mind.

Won't that work in the opposite way as Salah doesn't track back much as well so some space for Marcelo while going forward ?
 
I still don't get how people can have just watched that Real Madrid defence against an inferior attack to Liverpool's and still be so confident that Real will beat Liverpool.

I think Real would win purely because Liverpool's defence is also crap but with the amount of chances Madrid give up I just don't think you can confidently state that they'll beat Liverpool. Marcelo doesn't even try and defend and he'll be going up against the deadliest winger in the world right now. Gonna be an entertaining game, that we can be confident of.
I suppose they will control possession much better against Liverpool. Bayern are better on the ball than Liverpool which is why Real were pushed back. Don't underestimate the effect Anfield has on them as well. Playing in a neutral ground will be a different prospect especially when faced with a team that can pass it around for fun.
 
Do you actually want Liverpool to win it instead of Real Madrid?

That's what you're coming across as saying.

Your post was about Bayern and Real, and I definitely wanted Bayern to win there. But it's madness to you apparently. People wanted Barca to win against Roma, wanted Real against Juventus just for a slightly bigger odds of Liverpool not winning, even if they might like other teams more. And to me that's just fecking lame. I'll cheer - probably not on RAWK though - those I like more at the moment.

And I grew past being hurt by the success of rivals, thanks to Fergie retiring, so don't care much about who'll win.
 
Is this the Navas keeping Zidane from buying De Gea or Allison? That will change this summer from what I've seen tonight.
 
Madrid heavy favorites to win it all now. For those creaming over Liverpool it's worth noting it's a final and Madrid win them and Klopp doesn't also look at the pedigree of both teams. Madrid will be by far the best team the scouse have played this season and apart from perhaps us against them they will be up against the least naive team tactically. They won't just let hoofball play it to Salah as easily as Roma and City did.
 
Marcelo wont get away with being half way up the pitch against Liverpool. Salah will have a field day. Surely Zidane knows this assuming Madrid get through.
 
Why are people so confident Liverpool will win this? I’m guessing it’s a pessimistic view so people don’t get depressed if it does happen?

Anyway, as good as Liverpool have been the been they couldn’t beat us in 2 attempts, yet suddenly 2 of the best teams Europe have no chance against them?

They won’t be favourites in the final whoever they play and rightly so.
 
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Madrid have passed PSG, Juve and on their way to pass Bayern by exactly same defense and tactics. If they're dealing with it, what's the problem ? Pretty sure Liverpool are inferior to both PSG and Juve.

The problem might be that somebody will ultimately convert on all these defensive lapses and opportunities presented to them by Real Madrid.

Not that I complain about Higuain being a big game bottler.

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Milan absolutely can't afford him. ThereTh about to miss out on European football, and they have a huge financial mess to clear up this summer. There will probably be a change of ownership and management.

Didn’t realise there was new finance issues there. Last I saw they had new money flowing in once more.
 
Your post was about Bayern and Real, and I definitely wanted Bayern to win there. But it's madness to you apparently. People wanted Barca to win against Roma, wanted Real against Juventus just for a slightly bigger odds of Liverpool not winning, even if they might like other teams more. And to me that's just fecking lame. I'll cheer - probably not on RAWK though - those I like more at the moment.

And I grew past being hurt by the success of rivals, thanks to Fergie retiring, so don't care much about who'll win.

So you a Utd fan, wouldn't care if Liverpool won the Champions League?

Dearie , dearie me. What is going on??
 
Finishing is part of the game, isn't it? Defensive mistakes are part of the game, aren't they? Sloppy passes?
Real had more defensive mistakes and sloppy passes as well, hence our number of chances created vs theirs. But I think this discussion is pointless.
 
We need to take into consideration that they managed to beate Bayern away with Ronaldo in a bad day. How strong is Real Madrid.
 
Why are people so confident Liverpool will win this? I’m guessing it’s a pessimistic view so people don’t getdperessed if it does happen?

Anyway, as good as Liverpool have been the been they couldn’t beat us in 2 attempts, yet suddenly 2 of the best teams Europe have no chance against them?

They won’t be favourites in the final whoever they play and rightly so.

There are a lot of negative drama queens on here.

Go back 2 years and it was exactly the same before the Europa League final with Sevilla and Liverpool
 
Marcelo wont get away with being half way up the pitch against Liverpool. Salah will have a field day. Surely Zidane knows this assuming Madrid get through.
And Salah will have to help the defence defending Marcelo. It’s not a one way street.
 
The problem might be that somebody will ultimately convert on all these defensive lapses and opportunities presented to them by Real Madrid.

Not that I complain about Higuain being a big game bottler.

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We have been waiting for this "somebody" for 3 years now and it hasn't come. Madrid's attack, midfield and defense are too strong going forward that it compensate.

Their road to final is the hardest anyone can imagine but they're still winning through. Don't know how can anyone doubt them tbh.
 
Cant help but think Marcelo is possibly the worst kind of match up for Salah, sluggish in terms of speed and constantly out of position. Brilliant in attack mind.

Yeah and same goes for TAA facing Ronaldo and Marcelo. They're going ravage him.
 
So you a Utd fan, wouldn't care if Liverpool won the Champions League?

Dearie , dearie me. What is going on??

Well, I'm not from Manchester, not even England. Kids didn't tease me for my love of United, so grew without such scars. Almost everything Liverpool connected comes from internet for me...Why would I really really really hate them? (Granted, I don't like them).
 
We need to take into consideration that they managed to beate Bayern away with Ronaldo in a bad day. How strong is Real Madrid.
Or maybe we took him out of the game rather efficiently, and Real snatched two goals from two clear chances, while our entire attack forgot how to hit a ball or was injured after five minutes.
 
Well, I'm not from Manchester, not even England. Kids didn't tease me for my love of United, so grew without such scars. Almost everything Liverpool connected comes from internet for me...Why would I really really really hate them? (Granted, I don't like them).

Surely you can understand why so many Utd fans would be desperate for anyone but Liverpool to win it though?

I'm from and live in Manchester. It would be an absolute nightmare.
 
Or maybe we took him out of the game rather efficiently, and Real snatched two goals from two clear chances, while our entire attack forgot how to hit a ball or was injured after five minutes.
Dont know whats your point. Football is like this.
 
Well, I'm not from Manchester, not even England. Kids didn't tease me for my love of United, so grew without such scars. Almost everything Liverpool connected comes from internet for me...Why would I really really really hate them? (Granted, I don't like them).

Well then you don't really understand then.
And not to mention the fact that they'll have twice the European Cups.