Champions League Semi Finals (24th April - 2nd May)

The same way they won it in 2014 and 2016. There probably has never been a team that could find decisive goals playing worse. Time and time again they just find that momentum shifting goal and it's both amazing and infuriating.

You don't know what you talk about. The 2014 and 2016 sides are MUCH better than the current one. Much, much, much better.
 
Bayern needed to punish Real when they were on top. Rafinha will get some stick but honestly Bayern should've scored 3/4 tonight. Muller and Lewandowski were useless tonight. Ribery was the only one trying. He was a 1 man attack and his teammates should've given him more support. He had Carvajal on toast the whole game.
 
Bayern have only won one CL in the last 15 years and that was against another German team in the final while beating the worst Barca side in recent years in their way. They bottled another 2 finals against Inter and a terrible Chelsea. Not to mention Their CL run this season has been far from being convincing similar to last year as well.

Don't know how anyone wanted them in final. Liverpool vs Bayern and I can bet all my money on Pool winning it. Madrid are better and know who to win. This competition is their own bitch. I'm more comfortable now.

This! This! This!
 
Il culo di zidane è l'ottava meraviglia del mondo

I can render it in spanish as wel if you don't understand italian :lol:

I don't know how to render it in english

Zidane's ass is the eight wonder of the world?
 
This Madrid team is really something else. No matter how dominant you are against them they have the quality to beat you within the space of just a few minutes.
 
Real is strong and has loads of experience but they are really lucky very often. Zidane is showing to be a very good manager.
Tonight's game was average for both and despite Bayern being decimated they got the better chances.
Ronaldo had a bad game and got away again with a ridiculous dive in the first half. Just shameful for such a great player to recur to these tactics
 
Il culo di zidane è l'ottava meraviglia del mondo

I can render it in spanish as wel if you don't understand italian :lol:

I don't know how to render it in english

Italian is fine :lol:

Tie is far from over though, Bayern will definitely score at the Bernabeu
 
Why are you basing your whole conclusion based on today game only ?
Good point their defense was so much sharper over both ties against Juve, when Higuain played the role of Lewandowski.
 
Why are you basing your whole conclusion based on today game only ?

Because I'm a mad scouser and this is our year :lol::lol::lol:

Nah in all seriousness Ronaldo could score 1-2-3 wonder goals past us, totally aware of that, all I'm saying is, so can Liverpools attack based on Madrids defensive displays all season, its not been their best

It'll be a cracking final IF it is indeed us and them
 
The same Mane who Benzema would have been proud of with his performance yesterday?
Don't talk to me about benzema. Just don't. Have you sesn him tonight? Fecking hell. The groundskeeper would play better than him
 
Be sure to welcome the saviors that are Real Madrid when they come for De Gea.

"Yes, please!"

Again :wenger: And what has De Gea got to do with anything!?

I don't want Liverpool winning the Champions League under any circumstances.
 
Don't talk to me about benzema. Just don't. Have you sesn him tonight? Fecking hell. The groundskeeper would play better than him

Not sure if you're being sarcastic but he was good. I think he should have started.
 
Yep. Actually looking back at it it I think Casemiro should be the one blamed. He didn't the track the run of Kimmich and realise the danger quick enough. He had to cover for Marcelo there. Marcelo attacking contribution is vital so they have to compensate for that.
Exactly. When Marcelo is up front Casemiro needs to cover him. Or Casemiro will drop to the box and Ramos will work as the LB in those situations.

Another thing is, majority of times when Marcelo is caught "out of position" is not that he lost a ball that leads to a counter attack. In general he is positioned as a winger high in the pitch and this is a tactical decision. Why Zidane would do that? Because 1-1 away would be better than 0-0. As i said, offensive full backs worth the risk. They can decide games when the strikers are marked out.
 
I still don't get how people can have just watched that Real Madrid defence against an inferior attack to Liverpool's and still be so confident that Real will beat Liverpool.

I think Real would win purely because Liverpool's defence is also crap but with the amount of chances Madrid give up I just don't think you can confidently state that they'll beat Liverpool. Marcelo doesn't even try and defend and he'll be going up against the deadliest winger in the world right now. Gonna be an entertaining game, that we can be confident of.
 
Good point their defense was so much sharper over both ties against Juve, when Higuain played the role of Lewandowski.

Madrid have passed PSG, Juve and on their way to pass Bayern by exactly same defense and tactics. If they're dealing with it, what's the problem ? Pretty sure Liverpool are inferior to both PSG and Juve.
 
This! This! This!
We didn’t bottle the final against Inter. They were clear favourites and deserved to win it. It’s not bottling if your opponent has a clearly better team.
Otherwise I’m actually with you guys. We don’t handle important games in the CL that well. As soon as we face adversity, it’s usually over. We start blindly attacking and that’s it. I absolutely expected a game like this tonight.
 
The way this CL has been going I wouldn't even be surprised if the final was Bayern-Roma.
 
Don't talk to me about benzema. Just don't. Have you sesn him tonight? Fecking hell. The groundskeeper would play better than him
:lol: I've seen worse of him. I guess I'm used to seeing him like that.

To be fair to him, most of the team was shit. Many individual errors tonight
 
Exactly. When Marcelo is up front Casemiro needs to cover him. Or Casemiro will drop to the box and Ramos will work as the LB in those situations.

Another thing is, majority of times when Marcelo is caught "out of position" is not that he lost a ball that leads to a counter attack. In general he is positioned as a winger high in the pitch and this is a tactical decision. Why Zidane would do that? Because 1-1 away would be better than 0-0. As i said, offensive full backs worth the risk. They can decide games when the strikers are marked out.

Because Real Madrid have the know-how and have one of the greatest players that ever lived. They've also got a squad littered with match winners.
 
I still don't get how people can have just watched that Real Madrid defence against an inferior attack to Liverpool's and still be so confident that Real will beat Liverpool.

I think Real would win purely because Liverpool's defence is also crap but with the amount of chances Madrid give up I just don't think you can confidently state that they'll beat Liverpool. Marcelo doesn't even try and defend and he'll be going up against the deadliest winger in the world right now. Gonna be an entertaining game, that we can be confident of.

That Bayern defence is a level above Liverpool’s and Liverpool will have to consider how they will cope with Marcelo and Ronaldo attacking that left side with Salah on a free role.
 
I still don't get how people can have just watched that Real Madrid defence against an inferior attack to Liverpool's and still be so confident that Real will beat Liverpool.

I think Real would win purely because Liverpool's defence is also crap but with the amount of chances Madrid give up I just don't think you can confidently state that they'll beat Liverpool. Marcelo doesn't even try and defend and he'll be going up against the deadliest winger in the world right now. Gonna be an entertaining game, that we can be confident of.
Same for me. Liverpool will have a big chance to win the whole thing