Champions League Semi Finals (24th April - 2nd May)

If I was a Bayern fan I'd be pretty furious, football goes in cycles so to lose out on 3 champions league semi finals vs Madrid when you were the best team must really sting.

They were blown away in 2014. Not even close to being better in that tie. Last year, they were only better in the first half of the 1st leg. It was all Madrid after that. In the 2nd leg, it was practically even when it was 11 vs. 11 on the pitch.
 
No doubt in my mind we will smash Madrid in the final, Salah will rip Marcelo apart. Providing we get past Roma of course.
 
Unlucky, bro. Really deserved it, football can be unfair sometimes.

What they did to 'deserve' to win? Lewandowski was patheticly bad and they need to open their eyes about the ugly muller , this guy shouldn't even be a pro player.
 
Difference between Bayern winning the cup and getting eliminated : Neuer.

That other keeper is shocking, absolutely shocking. Not his first clanger of the season. This one was incredible though.
 
Madrid will win the final, I am sure of that. They won't miss the chance to make history of being the first team to win the CL three times in a row. The fact that Ronaldo, Ramos and co. have proved themselves to be big game players who always rise up to the occasion, I am not worried at the slightest of Liverpool winning it.
 
Did you watch us defend? Did we look good defending deep? Did we even look capable of playing on the counter?

You people seriously need to stop peddling that bs. We will not sit deep and play on the counter in the final, not unless we're forced to

By the end of the game if Ribery was a player who plays with his head up he would pass the ball to a teammate (that happened twice) because Marcelo was not even near of that player, that was weird when we see the left side of Real with no white jerseys and only one red jersey.... Now I understand why Mourinho used Coentrao against Barcelona and not Marcelo, good player going forward but bad defender.
 
Bayern defense and middle field was really good, they controlled the game and made sure Ronaldo didn't get the ball but the attack was bad they missed so many opportunities they remind me Portugal.:wenger:
 
If Madrid play like this, I can see them losing against a good shape Pool.
 
Why would you call someone who's missed games are mostly due to a single injury, injury prone? It refers to frequency, not severity of a single injury.

He has 16 other injuries or complaints on his official record. If that's not frequent for a goalkeeper I don't know what it is. He's a sick note, let it go. This debate has run its course.
 


You stay classy Roma fans!!!


Be reminded of course that it's a very small portion of the fanbase. The fans overall, as well as the club, have been the exact opposite.

 
He has 16 other injuries or complaints on his official record. If that's not frequent for a goalkeeper I don't know what it is. He's a sick note, let it go. This debate has run its course.

8 missed matches in 8 years (from march 2009 to march 2017) is really injury prone - especially if this 16 other injuries are sometimes called "rest" or did not even let him miss any match and only 3 days training...

But actually the list in transfermarket does not list his shoulder injury from the Cup final in 2014 that was cured just in time for the World Cup.
 
Be reminded of course that it's a very small portion of the fanbase. The fans overall, as well as the club, have been the exact opposite.



No I completely understand that and am well aware of the classy supporters from Roma. It boggles my mind that this type of violence occurs just cause of football. Rivalries aside, no person should get hurt because he was in town watching something he enjoys. And the same applies to our moronic fans that do something similar.
 
I'm still waiting for Ribery to make a difference in a big CL game.
 
No doubt in my mind we will smash Madrid in the final, Salah will rip Marcelo apart. Providing we get past Roma of course.
You are in for a serious disappointment.

Your midfield will be chasing shadows, and Salah will be too busy defending in his own half against Marcelo.
 
Scousers are gonna win the trophy arent they? This Madrid team is the weakest in the last 5 years imo and they're gona be arrogant, scousers will be up for it like nobody's business and I feel like they could win it. In an attacking sense they are the best team Madrid would have faced in the final recently.

I'm aware that i'm talking as if pool are already through which honestly they basically are.
 
You are in for a serious disappointment.

Your midfield will be chasing shadows, and Salah will be too busy defending in his own half against Marcelo.

IMO I think Liverpool has enough firepower to seriously hurt Real Madrid only thing I am worried about is, if our defense will be good enough to thwart their attack. As far midfield is concerned,I believe Madrid's midfield is their strongest department but Liverpool will make their life hard with the intensity and Liverpool will bypass their midfield while attacking to exploit the space created by forward runs of Marcelo and Carvajal to exploit the lack of pace of Ramos. It will be interesting to see how Madrid tackles it. Also Liverpool is a team which is better counter-attacking side than Real Madrid, so it will be very different challenge Madrid has faced under Zidane.

But before that we have to qualify for the final first.
 
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Garbage display by Real Madrid. Very lucky to be in the finals. This team is on its last legs and needs major surgery. Summer 2018 needs to be at least as big as Summer 2009.
On a positive note: If we win the finals, we would have beaten the French, Italian and German Champions !!!
 
Garbage display by Real Madrid. Very lucky to be in the finals. This team is on its last legs and needs major surgery. Summer 2018 needs to be at least as big as Summer 2009.
On a positive note: If we win the finals, we would have beaten the French, Italian and German Champions !!!
You have achieved that feat already.
 
Garbage display by Real Madrid. Very lucky to be in the finals. This team is on its last legs and needs major surgery. Summer 2018 needs to be at least as big as Summer 2009.
On a positive note: If we win the finals, we would have beaten the French, Italian and German Champions !!!

You have achieved that feat already.

Yes but it is not something to boast about unless you actually win a trophy.
 
When Barca won it in 2015 they beat the English, German, Italian, and French champions.

That’s why it’s called the champions league
 
Am I of the rocker for thinking that if Roma can overcome a 3 goal deficit against Barca they can do it against Pool as well? Don't think Klopp's team is in the final already.

I think so too. Everyone here seems absolutely convinced Liverpool has this in the bag. They're not that good. There's a reason they're in 3rd place and haven't won anything yet.

Yes, Salah is playing at Messi levels right and Firminho is an excellent conterpart to him, but the rest of that team is not all that. Klopp has an excellent system in place that makes them punch above their weight, but lets see them now.
 
The weakest champions league in many years, Madrid aren't great and are there for the taking.
A huge missed opportunity for us this year.
 
The weakest champions league in many years, Madrid aren't great and are there for the taking.
A huge missed opportunity for us this year.
Spot on. All big teams are in transition/ageing/decline, which is why Roma are there. Should have done much much better against Sevilla.
 
The weakest champions league in many years, Madrid aren't great and are there for the taking.
A huge missed opportunity for us this year.

Compared to Sevilla they are quite great. Bayern too. It's not like Sevilla were lucky in both games against United. They dominated everything: possession, chances, shots on target. Let's avoid rawkish nonsense.
 
Garbage display by Real Madrid. Very lucky to be in the finals. This team is on its last legs and needs major surgery. Summer 2018 needs to be at least as big as Summer 2009.
On a positive note: If we win the finals, we would have beaten the French, Italian and German Champions !!!

No disrespect but if Liverpool wins it they would have beaten Portuguese and English champions and Italian and Spanish 3rd place team in semi and final respectively. Not that big a feat but nobody will complain. Just kidding man. I know Real Madrid is a good team, didn't play that well but absolutely deserve to be in the final.

I think so too. Everyone here seems absolutely convinced Liverpool has this in the bag. They're not that good. There's a reason they're in 3rd place and haven't won anything yet.

Yes, Salah is playing at Messi levels right and Firminho is an excellent conterpart to him, but the rest of that team is not all that. Klopp has an excellent system in place that makes them punch above their weight, but lets see them now.

Thing is once you are in position where you have to take the game to Liverpool, you will be hit on counter after counter with lightning fast Mane and Salah. Basically the stage is well set for Liverpool to finish Roma off. Of course Liverpool isn't in final yet but it isn't easy to score 3 past Liverpool without them scoring anything. Taking game to Liverpool is playing into their hands and Roma has no option but to do that while staying tight at the back, easier said than done.
 
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Spot on. All big teams are in transition/ageing/decline, which is why Roma are there. Should have done much much better against Sevilla.

Barca underestimated them after winning the first leg 4:1. Barca are unbeaten in La Liga. In cup games everything can happen. But it doesn't mean that Barca aren't good.
 
Barca underestimated them after winning the first leg 4:1. Barca are unbeaten in La Liga. In cup games everything can happen. But it doesn't mean that Barca aren't good.
At the end of the day, they did not turn up when it mattered most. Roma beat them fair and square. Also, I do believe that Barca are declining over the years, and are likely to bring in new blood, which will make them stronger next season.
 
At the end of the day, they did not turn up when it mattered most. Roma beat them fair and square. Also, I do believe that Barca are declining over the years, and are likely to bring in new blood, which will make them stronger next season.

I share that view but it doesn't mean that they are there for the taking. They are still quite good. Madrid and Bayern too. Last night Bayern put in probably the best away performance in the CL this season. That blunder cost them big time though.
 
Wasn't Sevilla just playing better than Man Utd? I mean, them advancing was no fluke. Says more about United's state than about the UCL.
They deserved to win off course, our tactics were all wrong and we played very poorly.
My point is that Barcelona, Madrid and Bayern are all in transition and are nowhere near the dominant force of a few years ago.
A very entertaining and open competition .
If we had shown the belief and the courage Liverpool have we could have had a great chance.
 
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Am I of the rocker for thinking that if Roma can overcome a 3 goal deficit against Barca they can do it against Pool as well? Don't think Klopp's team is in the final already.

Come on, this is football... nice things don't happen in football.
 
You know - this Bayern team is not good enough etc. - that is what I read here many, many times. They just can be good in the "Bayernliga"...

Now they miss a couple of their players, have nobody on the bench because of injury - and dominate a Real Madrid team like they did in both matches...

I am not talking about luck or chance conversion. I read since years about Kroos and Modric - the best midfielders in Europe. Has somebody seen them?

Kroos has been putting up sub par performances for a while now, but if you haven't seen Modric yesterday I wonder what game were you watching.
 
Thing is once you are in position where you have to take the game to Liverpool, you will be hit on counter after counter with lightning fast Mane and Salah. Basically the stage is well set for Liverpool to finish Roma off. Of course Liverpool isn't in final yet but it isn't easy to score 3 past Liverpool without them scoring anything. Taking game to Liverpool is playing into their hands and Roma has no option but to do that while staying tight at the back, easier said than done.

Roma don't have to 'take the game to Liverpool'. They need to set up like Stoke did at the weekend, or like Mourinho did a month back. Sit back, defend well, and don't press past the half way line.

I think there's a small chance for Roma. Extremely tough game and circumstances, but if they can maybe be at 1-0 going into the last twenty minutes, I think they'd fancy their chances. Liverpool tend to tire quite badly after 70/75 minutes.

I'm holding onto any hope I can, because I don't want these cnuts winning the Champions League.
 
Bayern missing that final pass/touch all game. Lewy and Ribery specifically couldn't get that last touch/pass/shot in either game.

Ultimately two boneheaded errors are why they're sent home though. Some incredible lack of concentration.

Navas has exceptional positional ability (at least in this game).

yes that an a couple of clear penalties not allowed
 
Are you happy also he kicked the ball out for no reason when you were on the ascendancy, needing just 1 goal to get to the final of the European Cup, because a Real player went to the floor ‘inured’ cough cough (with a non head injury) If a Manchester United player did that id be seething- no matter how well they’d played as that’s moronic, unnecessary, and potentially stopped you getting to a final. Felt like James wanted to act the ‘good’ guy to the Real fans when any professional worth their salt should be thinking only about how Bayern can progress.

that was a really idiotic move I agree, but he had a great game
 
Roma don't have to 'take the game to Liverpool'. They need to set up like Stoke did at the weekend, or like Mourinho did a month back. Sit back, defend well, and don't press past the half way line.

I think there's a small chance for Roma. Extremely tough game and circumstances, but if they can maybe be at 1-0 going into the last twenty minutes, I think they'd fancy their chances. Liverpool tend to tire quite badly after 70/75 minutes.

I'm holding onto any hope I can, because I don't want these cnuts winning the Champions League.

I admire your optimism but they’re 100% winning the damn thing. Madrid are wank and there’s no hope of Roma clawing back that deficit. Barca, City and Bayern were the three best teams in the competition and they’re all out. The stars have aligned perfectly for the dippers. We just have to accept that and move on.
 
I admire your optimism but they’re 100% winning the damn thing. Madrid are wank and there’s no hope of Roma clawing back that deficit. Barca, City and Bayern were the three best teams in the competition and they’re all out. The stars have aligned perfectly for the dippers. We just have to accept that and move on.

Goddammit Pogue no!

You're probably right :(