Champions League Semi Finals (24th April - 2nd May)

It's not luck. It's a mixture of class and an almost unique composure. You might luck your way to one trophy, but not to three consecutive finals. Real are pure and genuine class. They deserve this. Even if it's just because they are more stable than everyone else. That's what seperates special teams from normal ones.
Sure, they're not only incredibly talented and well balanced, they have some real character and charisma in their ranks. They can win against anyone on their day. But not tie after tie, and year after year, without an untold amount of luck. Because they're not that good. This tie shows it as much as their league record. They're not really that composed, as they have many flaws in their game and tend to concede too many chances. But for some reason, other teams seem to literally forget how to play when facing them. It is incredible.
 
You know - this Bayern team is not good enough etc. - that is what I read here many, many times. They just can be good in the "Bayernliga"...

Now they miss a couple of their players, have nobody on the bench because of injury - and dominate a Real Madrid team like they did in both matches...

I am not talking about luck or chance conversion. I read since years about Kroos and Modric - the best midfielders in Europe. Has somebody seen them?

They're en route to Kiev, pal.

All joking aside, Bayern gave a very good account of themselves over the two legs. More composure in both boxes and they'd have gone through for sure.
 
Sure, they're not only incredibly talented and well balanced, they have some real character and charisma in their ranks. They can win against anyone on their day. But not tie after tie, and year after year, without an untold amount of luck. Because they're not that good. This tie shows it as much as their league record. They're not really that composed, as they have many flaws in their game and tend to concede too many chances. But for some reason, other teams seem to literally forget how to play when facing them. It is incredible.
I think if you're really good over a long period of time, games become a self fullfilling prophecy. Everybody expects things to happen this way, thus they happen this way. They believe it will happen and their opponents do, too.
 
Oh man, don't really know what to say. Over the two legs we played really well, but if some players make stupid mistakes (Rafinha and Ulreich) and some others show probably their worst performance all season (Lewy and Müller) you just won't win against Real.

Hummels, James and Kimmich were our best players i think.

Congrats to the Real fans on here and thank you for the kind words, instead of rubbing it in!
 
Have to say I’d be a bit angry at James if I was a Bayern fan.

Seemed to care more about not annoying Real than concentrating on Bayern, bit of an insult to their fans I thought not celebrating his goal with the (heyyy look at me not celebrating non celebration) how you can’t celebrate a semi final champions league goal is wrong to me. Takes away emotion of scoring from your teammates too.

Also way he kicked the ball out in 82nd minute just because a Real player went down with cramp is ridiculous. No need whatsoever to kick the ball out there, no head injury. Again I think that’s disrespecting Bayern just to try and keep in Real’s good books.

Don't know what was worse him kicking it out after Real player acting injury or that ridiculous non-celebration. If you don't want to celebrate fine, but then run back to the half line for kick-off since you need one more goal.
Him standing there all apologetic and sorry like he just run over someone deserved nothing but a slapping.
 
He's missed 73 games from injury. Only Cech is close with 63. Even if you take the 44 he missed so far from his latest injury that's still 29 and still over the average for a goalie. De gea in comparison has only ever missed 5 games through injury his entire senior career. Courtois who has had his issues has missed 20 and so has Oblak. Lloris has missed 11, Ter Stegen 13, Navas 24, Bravo 29. The man is the most injury prone top goalie in world football and I wonder why the facts bother you
The last three entries are basically the same foot injury getting worse. So it's 56 missed games for the current injury, not 44. And only 7 missed games in 8 years prior to that. He really hasn't been injury prone until the foot OP in March 2017.

Edit: miscounted, 8 games in 8 years
 
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I still don't believe that we're in the final. I'm gonna have a heart attack one of these days. Sorry for you guys but I think Liverpool is going to trash RM

And you are supposed to be a Real Madrid fan?? :confused:

It's not luck. It's a mixture of class and an almost unique composure. You might luck your way to one trophy, but not to three consecutive finals. Real are pure and genuine class. They deserve this. Even if it's just because they are more stable than everyone else. That's what seperates special teams from normal ones.

One of the best posts I've seen here, specially coming from a Bayern fan. Respect.

If you’re genuinely looking for them, Kiev would be a good place to start.

Hahahahahaha. :lol::lol:
 
Don't know what was worse him kicking it out after Real player acting injury or that ridiculous non-celebration. If you don't want to celebrate fine, but then run back to the half line for kick-off since you need one more goal.
Him standing there all apologetic and sorry like he just run over someone deserved nothing but a slapping.
He played two great games for us. He scored an important goal. He's playing a role he never played before and he was playing his ass off for two ties. It would take an incredibly petty and ignorant person to actually take offense in that.
 
He played two great games for us. He scored an important goal. He's playing a role he never played before and he was playing his ass off for two ties. It would take an incredibly petty and ignorant person to actually take offense in that.

He was your best player, true, but it was a moronic thing to do imo. They ditched him out also.
 
Good game enjoyed that. Such a terrible goal to concede re Bayern on that back pass keeper howler. If I were a Liverpool fan I'd be licking my lips at the real full backs. Right back was exposed and Marcelo is much more comfortable attacking than he is defending. Liverpool team has issues but so do real. Will be an exciting final unless Roma do the unexpected.
 
The last three entries are basically the same foot injury getting worse. So it's 56 missed games for the current injury, not 44. And only 7 missed games in 8 years prior to that. He really hasn't been injury prone until the foot OP in March 2017.

That page lists 18 different instances where he has gone under the record as being unfit to play. Thats more than any of the other top goalies i've mentioned. The severity doesn't matter as much as the frequency and the time out. If the wording 'injury-prone' is what you take issue with would you at least admit he's had way more fitness issues than his fellow highly rated goalies?
 
He was your best player, true, but it was a moronic thing to do imo. They ditched him out also.
He left everything he had on the pitch. I refuse to criticize him for such ridiculous things. He can cheer every way he wants.
 
@carvajal @giorno @Vato

You white hanky waving cnuts better not lose!

Good luck in the final!

Just hope the feck Real win so I can breathe a sigh of relief. Then go and have more than a few G&T's watching Liverpool fans crying into their pints. Please happen, please!
 
It's not luck. It's a mixture of class and an almost unique composure. You might luck your way to one trophy, but not to three consecutive finals. Real are pure and genuine class. They deserve this. Even if it's just because they are more stable than everyone else. That's what seperates special teams from normal ones.
They have been a fine side, but they are not what they were and deserved to get beat tonight
 
That page lists 18 different instances where he has gone under the record as being unfit to play. Thats more than any of the other top goalies i've mentioned. The severity doesn't matter as much as the frequency and the time out. If the wording 'injury-prone' is what you take issue with would you at least admit he's had way more fitness issues than his fellow highly rated goalies?
Between his right foot injury in 2008 and his left foot injury in 2017 he was fit to play for almost every game, though. Isn't that what counts?
 
@carvajal @giorno @Vato

You white hanky waving cnuts better not lose!

Good luck in the final!

Just hope the feck Real win so I can breathe a sigh of relief. Then go and have more than a few G&T's watching Liverpool fans crying into their pints. Please happen, please!
:lol: It seems a good plan, First a good thread of compliments to Madrid, a few gifs of players and fans desolated and later got cocky in the Messi-Cristiano thread
 
:lol: It seems a good plan, First a good thread of compliments to Madrid, a few gifs of players and fans desolated and later got cocky in the Messi-Cristiano thread

How I wish for this. Anything but Liverpool winning.
 
He left everything he had on the pitch. I refuse to criticize him for such ridiculous things. He can cheer every way he wants.

Are you happy also he kicked the ball out for no reason when you were on the ascendancy, needing just 1 goal to get to the final of the European Cup, because a Real player went to the floor ‘inured’ cough cough (with a non head injury) If a Manchester United player did that id be seething- no matter how well they’d played as that’s moronic, unnecessary, and potentially stopped you getting to a final. Felt like James wanted to act the ‘good’ guy to the Real fans when any professional worth their salt should be thinking only about how Bayern can progress.
 
Between his right foot injury in 2008 and his left foot injury in 2017 he was fit to play for almost every game, though. Isn't that what counts?

He's missed 73 games from being injured. That's two seasons worth of games. Look at the amount of games other keepers have missed and tell me those numbers are 'normal'
 
They have been a fine side, but they are not what they were and deserved to get beat tonight
They still got the job done, even though I still don't understand how. The fact that Marcelo easily scores a difficult shot in the first leg, while the trio of Lewandowski, Müller and Ribery act like they are Mr. Bean on holiday whenever they enter the box, is a matter of quality. The quality not to crumble when things are most difficult, is a very rare one. Real win those games, because so many of their players possess this rare quality. What happend to Ulreich or Rafinha would never have happened to any of their players. No way.
 
Are you happy also he kicked the ball out for no reason when you were on the ascendancy, needing just 1 goal to get to the final of the European Cup, because a Real player went to the floor ‘inured’ cough cough (with a non head injury) If a Manchester United player did that id be seething- no matter how well they’d played as that’s moronic, unnecessary, and potentially stopped you getting to a final. Felt like James wanted to act the ‘good’ guy to the Real fans when any professional worth their salt should be thinking only about how Bayern can progress.
Personally, I hate it whenever players do that. No matter what the situation is. It should always be the refs job to stop the game (unless there is a really obvious injury of course). But this scene was no different than any other time a player did this. So I'm not blaming or criticizing him for doing something, that is widely regarded as the fair and obvious thing to do.
 
He's missed 73 games from being injured. That's two seasons worth of games. Look at the amount of games other keepers have missed and tell me those numbers are 'normal'
I suggest you read the replies to your earlier posts again. It's all in there.
 
I still can't believe we went through, now i'm sure we will win this.
 
Personally, I hate it whenever players do that. No matter what the situation is. It should always be the refs job to stop the game (unless there is a really obvious injury of course). But this scene was no different than any other time a player did this. So I'm not blaming or criticizing him for doing something, that is widely regarded as the fair and obvious thing to do.

I have to say fair play for not being too harsh on him, as I say if a Manchester United player did that I’d be furious. Who knows if you’d have scored from that attack, and never will know now because he decided to do that. His teammates seemed annoyed too-could cause friction in the future ..

As you say it’s the refs decision and they really shouldn’t stop a game if it’s not a head injury otherwise players would fall on the floor every time an attack happened for the ref to stop it.

He did play well like you say but maybe an extra 1% different attitude In situations like this could have made the difference tonight.
 
They still got the job done, even though I still don't understand how. The fact that Marcelo easily scores a difficult shot in the first leg, while the trio of Lewandowski, Müller and Ribery act like they are Mr. Bean on holiday whenever they enter the box, is a matter of quality. The quality not to crumble when things are most difficult, is a very rare one. Real win those games, because so many of their players possess this rare quality. What happend to Ulreich or Rafinha would never have happened to any of their players. No way.
Yeah lewandowski and Muller were shocking tonight, but id hardly call that performance from Madrid stable. And off tonight I would much rather Liverpool be playing you in the final
 
Yeah lewandowski and Muller were shocking tonight, but id hardly call that performance from Madrid stable. And off tonight I would much rather Liverpool be playing you in the final
I fully get that. But to me, being stable wouldn't be meant in the way you mean it. Mental stability is something different from weak performance, defensive issues etc. To me it's the quality to be able to raise your level of play at exactly those moments when it matters most. Even if it's just for a few seconds. It takes extreme mental stability to pull this off. Like a good quarterback who played a terrible game, threw multiple interceptions and suddenly throws the game winner in the last second. Very few people can do that.
 
I suggest you read the replies to your earlier posts again. It's all in there.

I suggest you just accept the truth that he's an injury prone goalie who has missed a big chunk of games. Its unfortunate for him as he's a great talent.
 
@carvajal @giorno @Vato

You white hanky waving cnuts better not lose!

Good luck in the final!

Just hope the feck Real win so I can breathe a sigh of relief. Then go and have more than a few G&T's watching Liverpool fans crying into their pints. Please happen, please!
Thanks dude. If tonight's anything to go by, we're going to need our fair share of it I think.
 
Schalke defeated holders Inter in the QF. . . 5-2 win in Milan.

Inter was horrible right after Jose left both in Serie A and CL in 2010-11. And Roma also came back from 4-1 defeat against Barcelona. They were awful against Liverpool though. Hopefully they will make a similar comeback tonight and show that they are not the worst team ever to make the SF of the CL.
 
I suggest you just accept the truth that he's an injury prone goalie who has missed a big chunk of games. Its unfortunate for him as he's a great talent.
Why would you call someone who's missed games are mostly due to a single injury, injury prone? It refers to frequency, not severity of a single injury.
 
That Real announcer is class. Need him at United. Problem is, the Spanish would be weird, and an English bloke called Barry isn't the same.
 
Does anyone have an inkling as to what the score may be tonight? Even with Roma's superb, home record in the CL, it wouldn't surprise me to see Liverpool scoring 3. The question is, can Roma score 7 :smirk:

Obviously, it would be a sensational second leg & certainly 'one to remember'. Can't quite see it happening though, so will plump for 2 - 3 to Liverpool.
 
You forgot Süle. He was absolutely outstanding.
Could easily replace Boateng already.

You are right. His passing isn't on the same level as Hummels' or Boatengs (but there are few defenders that can match them in that regard) but judging "pure defender skills", Süle is already very, very good.
 
Liverpool will win easily, something like 3-1 with Roma's goal being a late consolation.
 
If I was a Bayern fan I'd be pretty furious, football goes in cycles so to lose out on 3 champions league semi finals vs Madrid when you were the best team must really sting.