Champions League Round of 16 fixtures

I had Matri on first goal scorer. :lol:

Did it pay off?

Who will the first goal be attributed to? Matri put it in, but the referees only acknowledged the goal after Marchiosio's strike. Unimportant, but curious. I think it has to go to Marchisio.
 
It was like watching a lower division team in an FA cup tie with a PL side

Inferior team has a plucky go, superior team bides their time and picks them apart

True I suppose. Lower division teams or teams of a lesser quality often sit back and park the bus to though. Lennon didn't set Celtic up like that though and while admirable enough it could well have cost them in the end.
 
Did it pay off?

Who will the first goal be attributed to? Matri put it in, but the referees only acknowledged the goal after Marchiosio's strike. Unimportant, but curious. I think it has to go to Marchisio.

That's crazy, of course it's Matris.
 
Lennons interview was brilliant. Blames it on the ref, says he was pro Juve then says he doesnt want to say anything that will make it sound like sour grapes :lol: Firmly put in his place tonight.
 
Can't believe some muppets thought Celtic would be a difficult tie for us.
 
What did Celtic do besides Ambrose's free header ? Someone here posted that they had " plenty" of chances !!!! uh.. which exactly ?!!

The scoreline is harsh, but it's not like they were superb or something !!

Nothing much. Their whole attacking game was crossing from some way out and getting corners. Buffon didn't have to break a sweat once. He tried to in the beginning to save the shot from Wanyama that was already going wide.
Juventus' back three was very composed and it was no wonder. It's their superior position. They're probably the best team in the history of the CL at finishing a match when scoring first. Never lost a game after leading at HT.

That Peluso fellow looked good. Never heard about him before. On a 6 month loan from Atalanta with option to buy. Debuted for Italy last September and has three caps and a goal now. Only played in the Serie A for 4 years despite being 29 years old. Juventus have quite the depth. Give them a world class (not even world class, better than what they have) forward and they'd be up there with Bayern and Real.
 
We were naive tonight. Shot ourselves in the foot early doors and it was always an uphill task from then on. Never a 3-0 game mind you but they were clinical as feck and fair play to them for that. We'll learn from it and hopefully become less timid and toothless in the future. Some beautiful passes on display from Pirlo tonight. Still don't buy into the claims that he's at the same level as Xavi though but clearly a class act.

Juve looking good for the Champions League. Admittedly, you always will look strong favourites when you've 16 players against 11. Dirty cheating bastards as always. I must stress that I don't blame the referee for tonight's result. I blame our defence (Ambrose is a tit) and credit Juve's ability to pick us off on the counter and their ruthlessness. It's just galling when you're down 3-0 in injury time, clearly out of the competition and arseholes like Pogba are rolling around clutching their leg in agony then the referee blows for full time and he springs up immediately to shake hands. And how could I forget the referee pulling play back for an offside after we'd intercepted the pass and were breaking down the left wing in the first half.
 
Why did Ambrose start for you guys straight back from AFCON ? Poor management that.
 
Are you not a Barcelona fan? :confused:

I like them but I'm a Celtic fan.

Why did Ambrose start for you guys straight back from AFCON ? Poor management that.

No idea. He's a liability. One of those defenders who wants to be an attacking midfielder in their own box. I can only assume it was for his pace as the alternatives make Javi Garcia look like Usain Bolt.
 
That's crazy, of course it's Matris.

Why would it be crazy? The referee's didn't saw (well, the goal line assistant is on top of it, so he saw it, but was hesitant to give it, again proving their uselessness) Matri's goal, they saw Marchisio's goal and validated Marchisio goal.

If Marchisio hadn't score, no one would posthumously give the goal to Matri.

Let's say the ball had travelled a few yards further back, to the outside of the box and Pirlo put it in, would it still be Matri's goal? Or if it was a corner and Vucinic headed it in afterwards? Where do you draw that line?

It may look like the "right thing" giving the goal to Matri, but it's a subjective and awkward decision. Like I said, I don't believe they would have done it if the ball had bounced back a few more yards.
 
Was delighted with that Celtic result, their fans really are a vile bunch and I wish them no success in Europe. I can not believe it finished 3-0 though because Juventus looked awful if we get passed Madrid I would have no fears about playing them.
 
Juventus fairly beat Celtic and suddenly it's "THEY feckING PAID THE REFEREE!".

Well, I watched it. I could care less about Celtic or Juventus. It was the only game on.

And I thought the ref was ridiculous.
 
They're making an issue of the grappling that went on in the penalty box. Something that happens all the time. But hey, they have to have something to complain about.
 
They're making an issue of the grappling that went on in the penalty box. Something that happens all the time. But hey, they have to have something to complain about.

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Aye. Nothing to see here. Happens all the time. Accept it and move along.

And for what it's worth, when it happens all the time, don't commentators and fans alike usually say they'd love to see referee's act on it by dishing out penalties which would quickly see it stopped. All too often defenders don't even look at the ball when the set piece is coming in, all they do is face their man and wrestle with him.
 
They're making an issue of the grappling that went on in the penalty box. Something that happens all the time. But hey, they have to have something to complain about.

No, they're making an issue of the ref giving yellow cards, then immediately allowing even worse shit to take place within seconds.

It's was a perfect example of inconsistency and it was simply very poor refereeing.

They are correct to be upset.
 
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Aye. Nothing to see here. Happens all the time. Accept it and move along.

And for what it's worth, when it happens all the time, don't commentators and fans alike usually say they'd love to see referee's act on it by dishing out penalties which would quickly see it stopped. All too often defenders don't even look at the ball when the set piece is coming in, all they do is face their man and wrestle with him.

That's true, just don't understand why it's an issue now your team got stuffed. Reminded me of the goal line technology bollocks, the way it was all magnified because of Lampard's disallowed goal vs Germany.
 
No, they're making an issue of the ref giving yellow cards, then immediately allowing even worse shit to take place within seconds.

It's was a perfect example of inconsistency and it was simply very poor refereeing.

They are correct to be upset.

Sure but I caught something that was red card worthy from Brown that seemed to have escaped everyone. Wasn't replayed or mentioned. I saw it, had the editing guy check it out and there it was. Brown kicking out at Vucinic between 28-29th minute. Straight red if the ref had seen it. Lucky he missed Vucinic because he sure as hell would have gone down.

Lichtsteiner was ridiculous, like always. At first he mainly used his chest and that pissed Hooper off. Then he got handsy and rightfully was booked.

A valid point was made on why the ref handles it like he does. Why does he stop the play to have a talk before the corner is taken? It's not always both the players that are guilt. Let the corner be taken and as soon as it has been taken award a penalty or a foul the other way (which ever is correct at that time). Celtic definitely should had a pen.
 
Yeah, a legitimate goal being disallowed is no cause for concern

This game was also yet another reminder of how useless those 4th and 5th officials are. All that shirt pulling, didn't see that Matri scored. It's the 4th time I remember from a European fixture where there's a goal scored and that said official didn't catch it.
 
Did it pay off?

Who will the first goal be attributed to? Matri put it in, but the referees only acknowledged the goal after Marchiosio's strike. Unimportant, but curious. I think it has to go to Marchisio.

I was wondering this. If they give it to Marchisio, they're retrospectively acting as a result of video technology and should therefore stop being Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime and introduce it properly as soon as possible seeing as though they're already using it without realising. ;)
 
:lol: Is the celtic player about to start appealing to the ref right at the end? Bizarre moment by both players
 
There were a couple of incidents where Lichsteiner was fortunate not to be pulled up. There were also a couple of incidents where Hooper and Brown lashed out and were fortunate not to get pulled up. At times Lichsteiner went over the top, but for all Tyldsley's outrage - much of it caused by the fact he's never defended a set-piece in the box - it is acceptable to use your body to protect space, be that chest and even arms.
 
No, they're making an issue of the ref giving yellow cards, then immediately allowing even worse shit to take place within seconds.

It's was a perfect example of inconsistency and it was simply very poor refereeing.

They are correct to be upset.

I agree the wrestling in the box at corners was very poorly reffed but then it was celtic so I couldn't care less.

Well done Juve.
 
I was wondering this. If they give it to Marchisio, they're retrospectively acting as a result of video technology and should therefore stop being Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime and introduce it properly as soon as possible seeing as though they're already using it without realising. ;)

I think you mean if they give it to Matri, correct?
 
They're making an issue of the grappling that went on in the penalty box. Something that happens all the time. But hey, they have to have something to complain about.

I take it you didn't watch the game? It was the most blatant and consistent fouling of it's kind I've ever seen, more than one at nearly every set piece.

I don't think many teams other than Juventus could dream of getting away with it.
 
My favourite bit was Clive getting so upset he resorted to insulted the Juventus players at the end. "I BET PIRLO DOESN'T BOTHER WITH SHOWERS, THE TRAMPY LOOKING SHITBAG."

I'm paraphrasing a tad there, but you could almost hear Townsend sidling away to distance himself.
 
Celtic midfielder Kris Commons says team-mate Efe Ambrose has to take responsibility for his poor performance in the 3-0 Champions League defeat to Juventus.

The Nigeria defender only arrived back in Glasgow on the morning of the match after helping his country to African Nations Cup glory on Sunday night.

But Celtic manager Neil Lennon decided to include him in the starting line-up in a gamble that backfired spectacularly on the night.

Ambrose gifted Alessandro Matri an early goal, missed Celtic's best chance of the night and lost the ball to allow Mirko Vucinic to score a late third goal.

"If he wasn't feeling okay then he should have said so. If he felt good then he should have put in a better performance."
Kris Commons on Efe Ambrose
Quotes of the week
Commons told several national newspapers: "Look, the manager picked him. The manager pulled him to one side and asked him if he was feeling okay. He said he was feeling brilliant.

"If he wasn't feeling okay then he should have said so.

"If he felt good then he should have put in a better performance."

Commons added: "It was just very sloppy individual mistakes - something you'd probably get away with on a playground, not in the last 16 of the Champions League.

"There are certain individuals who let the team down.

"Hopefully this is just a one-off. The back four have made errors which have probably cost us the tie. But it's partly down to them why we're here in the first place.

Lichtsteiner - I did nothing wrong
"It's just a bitter one to swallow."

Commons also pointed the finger at the Spanish officials over their failure to punish some extra-tight marking as Juventus defended set-pieces.

Commons said: "The whole idea of the official behind the line was to look out for this kind of stuff, and if he can't identify when people are being hauled, man-handled or wrestled to the floor, I don't think he should be in a job."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...es-Efe-Ambrose-s-performance-against-Juventus

Nice of Commons to hang him out to dry publicly.
 
They're making an issue of the grappling that went on in the penalty box. Something that happens all the time. But hey, they have to have something to complain about.

The type of grappling that went on in the penalty box nearly every time Celtic won a corner last night does not happen all the time. I can understand full well why Lennon and Celtic would be complaining about it too as they were only a goal down when it was going on. If the same thing happens Utd tonight I'd imagine Utd fans and Fergie would feel exactly the same.
 
What a prick, deserves to get dropped. I thought the whole point was you win and lose as a collective.

Also its easy to blame others but perhaps they need to accept they got lucky even qualifying and they're not near good enough for this level.