True enough. Can’t see him copying Klopp tho
Champions League Quarter Finals (3rd - 11th April)
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Were they also happy to concede possession against Tottenham in the 2-2 draw or when City nearly came back at Anfield earlier in the season. Yes today they got lucky, in part because Pep has this weird obsession to carry the ball into goal, when they had dozens of opportunities to take high quality shots from just outside the box. Also they scored a goal that was wrongly ruled offside.
This strategy simply does not work in the long-run and Liverpool has so much potential to improve in that area. Do you ever see other top teams struggle so badly to retain possession and protect a lead, when they are up 3-0? There is a reason people say no lead is ever safe with Liverpool, even against EPL bottom-feeders.
We were reduced to utter impotence by City at OT, and Liverpool, a team with far lesser resources than us, have battered them twice in a couple of months. If that doesn't bother you or tell you anything about the state of the two teams, then there isn't much point debating with you.
Christ on a bike.
Not the only one in this thread. It beggars belief.
Spot on.
I'm guessing PG is not super super happy tonight??
@kidbob, how are you mate?
We were not. They got two flukey goals from set pieces which Lukaku was at fault for. We went to anfield and did not concede a goal. City have conceded seven in two games. Liverpool were beaten well by city in the Ethihad and they will dominate the return leg. It will be a completely different game in City, but I still think liverpool have a goal in them.
Care to elaborate or just want to throw out meaningless idioms?
The idiom is sufficient.
They're playing against a side that's much more talented, particularly in midfield. Liverpool's ace in the hole (aside from their front three) is their pressing, but even they can't press effectively for 90 minutes - you only need to be half a yard short against a side with City's quality and they will play through that press. It made sense to defend the space instead.
I am not so sure jumping between tacticts and imitating the best team of the day is such a good thing to do. Better to have a plan on your own with long term thinking. Also, United is still ahead of Liverpool in the PL table.
You do know there are 38 games in a season.. Right?
Correct. BT Sport doing their ex-ref bit on it now.
No philosophy is perfect. No manager wins year after year. To say that Mourinhos philosophy is wrong is wrong. He is the only manager to win the CL and EL twice. So obviously it does work, just not in certain games, i agree. But Peps philosophy failed tonight. That is football. But city will dominate the return leg. But if Liverpool get a goal, it is game over.
They walked the league because most of the managers in the league have the same mentality to stop just like our coward manager, except for Klopp who believed in his team every time he played against them and knew he can beat them and he did in 2 of 3 matches despite his lesser squad.
Liverpool supporting mate reckons they've improved massively in defence since VVD came. Don't see it myself though - the right side is seriously shaky.
This.
I wouldn't call Mourinho a coward but there's no reason we couldn't have played City like this.
If it's true, the mistake had problably decided the tie. City looked the better team prior to the first goal. 3:1 would have been a different story.
No I didn't mate, thanks for the heads-up.
Can you explain this weird offside rule for me as well while you're here?
Eh. If they're so beatable, they would be losing more often. I can't see how this reflects poorly on Mourinho. Every team occasionally slips, and that doesn't mean they were shit all along despite all evidence to the contrary. Maybe if Mourinho had gone out and said that City will never lose a game and any team that beats them is objectively superior to United, but he didn't do that.
Almost all 4 ties are done. Barcelona and Real Madrid are there. Then Bayern Munich. And then Liverpool.
Congrats the all the resident dipper fans. Masterclass from your coach and team tonight.
VvD was ridiculous at times. Literally gave City the ball twice to score. But he must have that priceless attribute that Lovren doesn't. Luck. However aside from that he does make the side look more relaxed thus less mistake prone.
Haven't you heard?
You should know everything is always about Mourinho. Even when it was the bears you knew it was about Mourinho.
Well Klopp has done it twice in the same season. Not just a case of slipping, it's an actual beating they have given City this season.
City have only lost about 3 meaningful games the whole season. Yes Klopp got their number in last 2 games, but stop acting as if they're so vulnerable and we're the only ones who shite the bed against them. They have won all bar 1 of their big games in England.
I make no bones about wanting to Liverpool to win this tie. Liverpool, I felt, are more likely to be done by Barca, Real or Bayern, especially over two legs, and if it were to pass, a Champions League would mean far more for City than the Scousers.
City could definitely turn them over at the Etihad though.
City could definitely turn them over at the Etihad though.
@JohnnyKills has a point though. What is that, seven goals they have conceded over two matches? Twice running that Klopp’s side have made City look ... well pretty clueless. Has to be some opposition managers saying to themselves- it’s not that they are scared of red shirts. They don’t like to be rushed, harried, attacked. Otamendi and Kompany were dog poo on ice tonight.
Here's a strange idea, perhaps Klopp's system has the upper hand over Guardiola's. He is after all the only top manager with a winning record against him.
The point is we have given too many teams far too much respect in our approach. Most especially in the city and Seville games but lots of other examples.
No, it wouldn't. Using a bottomless pit of money to buy a trophy means nothing, outside of City fans.
Liverpool winning number six would be absolutely insufferable.
It is Easter
Madrid got this competition in their pocket. I can see them defeating all the remaining competitors unless Messi had another opinion. No chance for Bayern or Liverpool against them imo.
Klopp has the beating of pep, pep has the beating of mourinho
They aren’t gonna score 4 against Liverpool are they? Chances are Liverpool will score again too on the break
You’re wrong about the CL - haven’t you heard “5 Times” from the scousers after they couldn’t bait us about the league titles anymore
Anyone rooting for Liverpool is an utter cretin in my book