what penalty on carvajal? are you joking?
Isco's WAS offside, look at the video not at a doctored still image where you cannot see when the ball is kicked
You know that on the video, depending of the angle is how onside or offside you will see it right? When an architect who knows how to get a vanishing point and make real and exact projections of the field and the players, then you stop supposing where he is based of what you see from the angle of the camera and get the real and exact measurements. All of this are exact sciences, not suppositions made by a heart broken Juve fan like you.
In this case the person that made the projection is Nacho Tellado, a spanish architect that works for the most viewed football program in all Spain and his exact projections have been hundreds of times versus Madrid an hundreds of times in favour, he only shows the real measurements.
The guy has already developed a program where he takes all the info he can from all the reviews from different angles, makes all the calculations and the he can show the replay in VR from where the linesman is, so you can see exactly the same as he saw.
When you have a Degree, and a Master in Architecture, you can make that kind of things man, surprise!!
it was clear only for you otherwise there would not be so many neutral observers including many former referees also from Spain that did not think it was a penalty. The 93rd minute is only relevant to the extent it makes the penalty basically final and because in the first leg a really clear penalty was not given against you at the end of the match, nobody is claiming that a clear penalty should not be given.
There are also a lot of neutral observers that saw a clear penalty.
In fact, also ex Juve players like Pirlo and Del Piero who said it can be seen as a penalty and not like they got robbed. Del Piero also said he doesn't understand why Buffon said what he said about the referee.
The reallity is that, there is so much people that hate Madrid, and others who can't stand watching them winning it almost every year and in this case, 3 times in a row, that they will say anything just to rule them out and demerit their trophies.
In can be proved easily. For example, with the Bayern Myth.
They keep repeating that the referee helped Madrid (including some Juve players), but they 'accidentally' forget the wrong penalty awarded to Bayern, that Vidal should have been red carded much before, since the 2nd minute of the 2nd leg and then again starting the 2nd half. He played all the game for free.
Or that the goal that made Bayern equalize the game and took it to extra time, was a blatant offside of Lewandoski.
So yes, they will always try to find excuses and when Madrid is involved, they will always argue the referee helped them. Even when they know it isn't true, they will be hypocrits and keep saying that.
As for the Juve fans like you, I'm pretty sure pretty deep in your mind, you know it is a clear penalty, but instead of trying to convince yourself about your lie, make a little bit of self-critisism.
You had the momentum when you scored the 3rd one, Madrid was shaking waiting for the KO and one more goal would have forced them to score 2.
But instead of going for the 4th goal, you sit back on defense and went for the extra time just because Madrid had already spent their 3 subs and you thought that eventually, they will get more tired.
And then they let Vazquez recieve the ball alone 5 yards from the goal line in the 93th minute??!
Instead of making excuses that you really don't believe, judge what you made wrong like the ridiculous first game in Turin that shoud have been 0-6, not 0-3. Or tell Benatia he can't do so dumb challenges in the 93th minute in a UCL knockout round because this happens.
Maybe in that way, working for being better instead of searching for excuses always, you could someday win a UCL, and not lose all the finals you play!
The fact that Juve supporters keep saying that the referees always help Madrid is ridiculous and they should be ashamed, their team is (proved) the most corrupt team in Italy and probably in the world...