Champions League Quarter Finals (3rd - 11th April)

[SuzieQ]

Are you talking for real ? Oliver was idiot when he didn't send off Hart, but all you said should mean feck all for a ref when he's applying the rules.

In relation to consistency is why I bring it up. If he can apply the rules as he sees fit, which he clearly does, then it’s not unreasonable for him to make an allowance for Buffon considering the circumstances. IMO.

In regard to him applying the rules, why didn’t he give Ronny a yellow for each of his dives? As I said, it’s about consistency.

 

[Vato]

It's really disappointing to win with a penalty in the last second.The match needed the extra time.

Couldn't agree more. I would have rather had it going to extra time than winning with a controversial decision.

 

[moses]

Yes. It is a rule. Clear red for buffon. But you should get yellow for waving with arms on every decision and telling ref that he should book a player. Real players did that 20 times today. Did they get any yellow card for that?

Are you asking me or telling me they didn't?

Either way, just because one rule is not enforced it doesn't mean none should be. Officiating in football does my head in so I'm not going to get annoyed when a decision is correct.

 

[Duafc]

Ironic thing about all that is the ball was pretty much going for Vazquez gut and not at a pace he could get any power on a diving header. I think he was looking to take a touch, by which point benatia could have got around or at least Buffon could have smothered it. Definitely more chance of Vazquez missing than ronaldo from a stonewall penalty.

Yeah dunno why Vazquez didn't just commit to the first time finish, Benatia wouldn't be in the equation then. As you say he didn't seem confident and i think was quite happy to go down.

 

[Florida Man]

fair question

I want it to be an Oliver cock-up.

It's a bit divey & I always go against that if I can.

The push may have been soft, but it's the reacharound with his leg, which doesn't make any contact with the ball, that makes it obvious. I won't argue with you about Vasquez going down easily though...at least from the push.

 

[RW2]

Zidane headbutt on Materazzi not a red card either then?

That actually shouldn;t have been a red as the match officials never saw it and used the TV screen in the Ol

What's this meant to show? Given the angle his foot could be a yard away

Yes, that is an amazing still. Gives a clear picture of depth. It also clearly shows benatia hitting lucas

Sorry a collision is not a penalty.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Great, so there he's kicking Vazquez and the ball is infront of his foot.

 

[SuzieQ]

Bizarre logic. You can't give pens against a team that's fought back from 3 down?? Really?? And you can't send someone off in their last season??

It's a bloody good job decent refs don't get into sentimental twaddle like that when making decisions.

And what the feck is spirit of the law?

I never said that, I said he could of given Buffon a bit longer to calm down considering how emotionally charged everything was.

 

[el3mel]

In relation to consistency is why I bring it up. If he can apply the rules as he sees fit, which he clearly does, then it’s not unreasonable for him to make an allowance for Buffon considering the circumstances. IMO.

In regard to him applying the rules, why didn’t he give Ronny a yellow for each of his dives? As I said, it’s about consistency.

Just because the ref was an idiot in a certain situation, he should be an idiot in every situation later on to prove consistency, consistency in what ? being idiot ?

 

[adexkola]

there is no reason for me to go ahead on this matter, we are out ... I think oliver is an utter twat and we all knew it before but, again, it is hot hair now. congrats to real and good luck in the semis.

Nah feck Real. I hope Bayern or Roma run them through.

 

[Barca84]

Never a penalty.

And you really need a very good reason to give a penalty in the last seconds of such a game. And yes, time and place make a difference.

No it doesn't. If you're sure it's a pen you give it no matter the time or the place.

Some barking mad opinions in here.

 

[Rajma]

It's really disappointing to win with a penalty in the last second.The match needed the extra time.
I think it was clear, but it is not the same to award a penalty in the 30th minute, than in the 92nd.He had to be really really sure with his decision.
If I were on the other side I would be pissed

Silver lining is I still think you have a much better chance at beating scousers so there’s that. Don’t disappoint now.

 

[Andycoleno9]

On tv ref expert and one football pundit said- no penalty. But what they know?

 

[CA_vampire]

Time and place makes no difference, you don’t get to not give something because it ruins some sort of story

Yes, it does.

Sorry, but you have to be a mindless robot to not understand the difference.

 

[Nick7]

That actually shouldn;t have been a red as the match officials never saw it and used the TV screen in the Ol



Sorry a collision is not a penalty.

A push with two hands and jumping into him is though.

 

[Ban]

They hit the post once. Anything else were shots from distance that never had a chance of going in. We really weren’t troubled.
They were in need of two more goals ffs. I really don’t see how anyone could call this close. We controlled them for about 160 minutes of the tie.

Just asked a simple question, didn't say it was close or anything.

 

[Rado_N]

Never a penalty.

And you really need a very good reason to give a penalty in the last seconds of such a game. And yes, time and place make a difference.

No and no.

 

[fcbforever]

Didn't Sevilla hit the post and had 2 more good chances from what I saw?

They had one shot on goal in 90 minutes. While needing two goals. What the heck are you talking about.

 

[Nick7]

Yes, it does.

Sorry, but you have to be a mindless robot to not understand the difference.

No, it doesn't. The rules are the exact same in every single minute of a football match.

 

[Snowjoe]

Yes, it does.

Sorry, but you have to be a mindless robot to not understand the difference.

What are you on about. You don’t get a free pass to foul someone just because the penalty might decide the game

 

[Peyroteo]

What sort of logic is that??

He's not above the game ffs

I know it doesn't make any sense and it's stupid, but it's what should have happened

 

[Jim Beam]

It's really disappointing to win with a penalty in the last second.The match needed the extra time.
I think it was clear, but it is not the same to award a penalty in the 30th minute, than in the 92nd.He had to be really really sure with his decision.
If I were on the other side I would be pissed

It's not the same, but it shouldn't make one bit of difference for the referee. I wanted Juve to pull it off, but it was a right call.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Never a penalty.

And you really need a very good reason to give a penalty in the last seconds of such a game. And yes, time and place make a difference.

It is obvious that this referee is not good enough for such big occasions. Unfortunately, they had to send someone from England because that's how those things work. But there are no good referees from England. (As there are zero top managers from England ... sorry, that's the truth).

That is completely illogical. The same rules that apply in the first minute apply in the last minute as well. One needs to be consistent.

 

[Ban]

Yes, it does.

Sorry, but you have to be a mindless robot to not understand the difference.

Yeah.

A good reason to give a penalty is handball or a foul in the box.

 

[adexkola]

No and no.

No and no to what?

 

[Andycoleno9]

Are you asking me or telling me they didn't?

Either way, just because one rule is not enforced it doesn't mean none should be. Officiating in football does my head in so I'm not going to get annoyed when a decision is correct.

No, i just said how olliver didn't had even criteria tonight.

 

[HTG]

Just asked a simple question, didn't say it was close or anything.

Sorry, to me it read as if you were implying they were somewhat close.

 

[Sterling Archer]

On tv ref expert and one football pundit said- no penalty. But what they know?

I saw a tv ref expert (USA channel) try and convince us that Mata goal disallowed with VAR was off side. You recall that one with the squiggly lines?

These guys will say anything

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Yes, it does.

Sorry, but you have to be a mindless robot to not understand the difference.

Not in European football it doesn’t, it never has and hopefully never will. Is this like that weird idea the yanks have in boxing where you have to ‘take’ the belt off a champion to win it, a close victory won’t do?

 

[Infra-red]

That actually shouldn;t have been a red as the match officials never saw it and used the TV screen in the Ol

Fine, but you presumably wouldn't argue that even if the referee had a perfect view of the incident, he should refrain from sending the offender off because it's the last game of a stellar career...

 

[moses]

Yes, it does.

Sorry, but you have to be a mindless robot to not understand the difference.

No it doesn't.

 

[giorno]

That actually shouldn;t have been a red as the match officials never saw it and used the TV screen in the Ol



Sorry a collision is not a penalty.

Kicking someone under the shoulder from behind is not a collision

 

[Ban]

They had one shot on goal in 90 minutes. While needing two goals. What the heck are you talking about.

Why are all Bayern fans so nervous around here.

 

[Hugh Jass]

What are you on about. You don’t get a free pass to foul someone just because the penalty might decide the game

This.

 

[SuzieQ]

Just because the ref was an idiot in a certain situation, he should be an idiot in every situation later on to prove consistency, consistency in what ? being idiot ?

Lol it would be super nice if we didn’t pick and choose what I’m saying. Someone else said Oliver had no choice, I pointed out that inconsistency in making that choice. No need to get upset.

 

[RW2]

He gave the penalty for a collision.
A collision is not a foul if the player (defender) wins the ball.

Naturally a dive followed thereafter.

Not a penalty.

Oliver bottled it.

 

[Barca84]

I never said that, I said he could of given Buffon a bit longer to calm down considering how emotionally charged everything was.

Refs been verbally abused and player has made physical contact. Red card all day long doesn't matter who it is or how bloody upset they are.

 

[Rado_N]

No and no to what?

The statements made.

Never a penalty.

Wrong.

And you really need a very good reason to give a penalty in the last seconds of such a game. And yes, time and place make a difference.

Very wrong.

 

[giorno]

On tv ref expert and one football pundit said- no penalty. But what they know?

Italian tv?

 

[Hugh Jass]

Kicking someone under the shoulder from behind is not a collision

Pushed him as well. Ok the madrid player made the most of it, but it was a foul and being inside the box, it was a penalty.

 

[kidbob]

This was nothing like Chelsea Barca though. Juve were lucky to have 10 on the pitch at the end, they committed 20 fouls in that game.

Not nit picking this game in particular but just pointing out that Spanish sides have had more than good luck. Chelsea had at least 2 stone wall calls and 2 borderline calls that day. That goes beyond a bad performance by a ref. I'd love to have seen the same challenge the other way tonight, I feel the ref wouldn't have called it but that's just peculation of course.

 

[Nick7]

He gave the penalty for a collision.
A collision is not a foul if the player (defender) wins the ball.

Naturally a dive followed thereafter.

Not a penalty.

Oliver bottled it.

The defender didn't win the ball. He just ran straight into the back of Vazquez.