Feck off Trent
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If you shoot and your shot takes a double deflection before going in, it will still count as your goal. I can see the same logic applied when making a pass. If Valverde made a pass and it takes a double deflection, it should still count as his pass.
The debate should be whether Valverde touched the ball at all. If he did, then offside. If he didn't, then it's a goal. If you want to be objective, look at the situation but imagine that the team in red is United.
The debate should be whether Valverde touched the ball at all. If he did, then offside. If he didn't, then it's a goal. If you want to be objective, look at the situation but imagine that the team in red is United.
But you've got 11 World class players.
Shouldn't you be 5 up?
Do you think that a defender ever deliberately plays the ball to the apposing teams striker? I know you don't but it seems that Big Bad Phil does.
It doesn’t matter if it’s deliberate, it’s his teammate who passes it to him and not Valverde!!!
That's why the rule specifies a play not a pass. Fabinho came in got the ball. It was a play. The goal should have stood.
fecking Madrid are so pedestrian!
They won't win this.
They won't win this.
Shocking coverage. Let's get it back on ITV!
LiVARpool
How is that not a card?
No, the idea of a deliberate touch has been there for a while. I remember Kane scoring a goal at Anfield a couple of years back after a Liverpool defender tried to cut it out and touched it into his path and the debate afterwards being about whether it should have stood given the Liverpool defender deliberately made a play at the ball but obviously not to where it went. Deliberately playing the ball is quite subjective though, he's sliding in his area to try and avoid conceding a goal plus the more I see it the less I think Valverde touched it anyway which makes everything else academic.
Trent cant understand a word from the ref
Use your fecking cards, ref
Have Liverpool the most first-named footballers in world football?
‘Trent’, this.
‘Virgil’, that.
Wankers.
‘Trent’, this.
‘Virgil’, that.
Wankers.
I'm sure it's mutual.
Goal should've been given, there are several precedents for how that rule is applied. I think it's unfortunate for defenders (and the rule should be changed) but it's clearly a deliberate action.
Yes, if it comes off 3 Liverpool players and the opposition score... Uefa will accept a donation in their PayPal account from a Mr J Klopp. Once received (usually within 3 mins) the goal will be deemed offside.
Did you miss the other pool player playing it backwards before it comes off Fabinho ERGO it was onside?
Do these referee's just make shit up as they go?
Not being deliberate is stupid when Valverde's intention was to shot, and not pass it to Benzema either.
I am.pretty sure there was similar goal for Liverpool just few weeks/months back in the PL and they told us it was a goal because of the same rules.
Exactly, he didn't even control it ffs.
It is not a bloody pass. It was a BLOCK. So that is why it is an offside.
I want them to lose as much as you do but lets be objective here
Agreed
This Liverpool team are a bunch of freaks. Never seen fitness levels like this in football before and it's hard not to flirt with conspiracy theories about how they keep it up.
Tell me why people are discussing the deliberate part when in fact it’s Konate who passes it to Fabinho? The moment Konate blocks it into Fabinho the Benzema is not off!
subjective , that's the whole point
Again.
Havent missed it. But it's a block because Valverde touches it!
Really is simple.
Madrid game plan looks straight up inspired by Ole Gunnar Solskjær's United.
the rule is playing the ball. he played it by slide tackling the ball away from valverde, which then fell to benzema.
i’ve seen goals like this 100s of times.
unlucky deflections are nothing new at all.
Get Dan James on.
This Real team is so average
Salah disasterclass. Has he done anything right?
This smacks of the ‘tuck rule’ way back yonder.
Even if it’s a block the moment the ball motion goes forward any offsides are not to be considered when it hits Fabinho. If it hit Fabinho when he was behind Konate then you might have a point.
hence why in this case, the rule is dumb... it's subjective
It's sheer luck that they got away with that. Valverde doesn't even try play it to Benzema. It's basically been treated like a deflected shot.
For it to be a goal it has to be a deliberate pass that is intercepted rather than a last ditch block that could have ricocheted anywhere.
If Valverde made a,shot, gk saved it and Benzema scored deflection....would that be an offside? Yes. So it is no matter what Valverde tried to doNot being deliberate is stupid when Valverde's intention was to shot, and not pass it to Benzema either.
I am.pretty sure there was similar goal for Liverpool just few weeks/months back in the PL and they told us it was a goal because of the same rules.
This is happening again.