No you don't, stop getting your knickers in a twist Mr. Isotope MkII.
Chain Draft (Main Thread)
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No you don't, stop getting your knickers in a twist Mr. Isotope MkII.
Nah, Berba's next pick is blindingly obvious and Sjor can't go there.
Because it's an absurd rule!!! It has no legs whatsoever. I suppose we will have to be watching out for anyone linking players at Juve while they were in Serie B as well.
There's so much wrong with it: eurocentrism, bigclub-centrism and the resulting usual-suspect centrism. It's nuts mate, everyone to a man is telling you the exact same thing.
No, no, no, no, what's so hard about just taking the standard game count. No sites count friendlies, cup games are fine AFAIC and yes the Charity Shield is a glorified friendly but at worst accounts for a single friggin' game in an entire season and for 99.9% of picked players it will be completely irrelevant anyway.
I've no idea where your aversion for the Charity Shield comes from, but you can't throw decades of excellent UEFA Cup and CWC history down the drain just because you don't like the Charity Shield.
The nationality card didn't need changing and most have made plans assuming it only kicks in after 7th. Christ...
One left the club after season 1959/60, and his replacement came in the summer. They might not have played together, but now they are reunited in this draft
Schiaffino and Rivera
They actually did. He brought him to AC Milan and they trained and played together but not an official game as far as I know. For all intents and purposes I consider them separate.
However, the story goes (in the words of Gianni Brera) that the first time he saw them on the pitch (somewhere near the Alps and Lake Como) it was a misty day and "in the middle of the fog, you couldn't tell if it was Schiaffino or Rivera", referring to the similar style and way of going about things of the promising youngster.
The question is what the hell you needed a carbon copy you greedy feck, could have gone for the other Swede, then Rivera and spared yourself the kamikaze keeper
Because it is a fantasy draftThe question is what the hell you needed a carbon copy you greedy feck, could have gone for the other Swede, then Rivera and spared yourself the kamikaze keeper
And you asked me why I said you are pressuring me, because this is exactly what you are doing
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4.
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N.Santos (Botafogo) 3. J.Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M.Ramos
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G.Baresi (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan)
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4.
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N.Santos (Botafogo) 3. J.Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M.Ramos
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G.Baresi (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan)
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi
Wow, it's just me talking to myself here...
Anyway IMPORTANT NOTICE
@Edgar Allan Pillow, you won't have to put up with me any more
One reason I wasn't keen on getting involved, planned everything to go dark through an unbeaten path, got royally pissed off at all the paths being blocked, all the rules being up in the air while I had to head into the 80s was that my dad is getting surgery on Monday, abroad, and tomorrow I'm travelling to be with my folks until Tuesday. Point being, I will hardly be able to check in at all.
The upside is Skizzopat did something completely unexpected which will let me head back into a path not miles from the one I originally planned, with some tweaks, with no time to check whether I could make it better using the nationality card after 5th, but one where there shouldn't be any hiccups at all and I leave the door open for Pepe to join his rightful home. I'll leave that with Aldo and Balu so they can post my picks as and when needed and we don't make a mess of this in the meantime.
Oh, I'll also leave them instructions on two players that look linked but aren't at all. You see, most sites think of seasons in the European cycle while in South America it is usually Mar-Oct. Therefore, it is often the case a player joining in February 1970 is classed as 1969-70 but there's none of the 69 season in him, while another leaving in December (three months earlier) also shows up as 1969-70 but in actual fact even if they had 15 games each (if there's a gamecount at all) they haven't played together.
Anyhow, enjoy the clusterfecks. Whoever makes the biggest killing in the 80s-00s will ultimately win this, so it's worth fighting for every inch. Cutch and Tuppet looking like the sides to beat so far.
Ta-ra.
Anyway IMPORTANT NOTICE
@Edgar Allan Pillow, you won't have to put up with me any more
One reason I wasn't keen on getting involved, planned everything to go dark through an unbeaten path, got royally pissed off at all the paths being blocked, all the rules being up in the air while I had to head into the 80s was that my dad is getting surgery on Monday, abroad, and tomorrow I'm travelling to be with my folks until Tuesday. Point being, I will hardly be able to check in at all.
The upside is Skizzopat did something completely unexpected which will let me head back into a path not miles from the one I originally planned, with some tweaks, with no time to check whether I could make it better using the nationality card after 5th
, but one where there shouldn't be any hiccups at all and I leave the door open for Pepe to join his rightful home. I'll leave that with Aldo and Balu so they can post my picks as and when needed and we don't make a mess of this in the meantime. Oh, I'll also leave them instructions on two players that look linked but aren't at all. You see, most sites think of seasons in the European cycle while in South America it is usually Mar-Oct. Therefore, it is often the case a player joining in February 1970 is classed as 1969-70 but there's none of the 69 season in him, while another leaving in December (three months earlier) also shows up as 1969-70 but in actual fact even if they had 15 games each (if there's a gamecount at all) they haven't played together.
Anyhow, enjoy the clusterfecks. Whoever makes the biggest killing in the 80s-00s will ultimately win this, so it's worth fighting for every inch. Cutch and Tuppet looking like the sides to beat so far.
Ta-ra.
@antohan sorry to see you go mate.
Hope all goes well with the surgery. ..
Enjoy that time with your folks.
Glad we could get your team back on track with a couple of curveballs
Safe travels.
Hope all goes well with the surgery. ..
Enjoy that time with your folks.
Glad we could get your team back on track with a couple of curveballs
Safe travels.
Good luck with the surgery man, hope it all goes smooth and sound!
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4.
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N.Santos (Botafogo) 3. J.Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M.Ramos
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G.Baresi (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan)
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4.
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N.Santos (Botafogo) 3. J.Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M.Ramos
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G.Baresi (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan)
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi
@antohan hope the surgery goes smoothly, and sorry for giving you hard time
@antohan best of luck with it mate. Cheers for the help earlier (before your abrupt defection) and sorry we won't get to see what madness you would have concocted by the end!
Errrr....
There's absolutely ZERO chance any of them will get blocked so it should be plain sailing with the chain I leave behind. I'll try get the writeups done before leaving tomorrow.
Thanks for the well-wishing
Wow, it's just me talking to myself here...
Anyway IMPORTANT NOTICE
@Edgar Allan Pillow, you won't have to put up with me any more
One reason I wasn't keen on getting involved, planned everything to go dark through an unbeaten path, got royally pissed off at all the paths being blocked, all the rules being up in the air while I had to head into the 80s was that my dad is getting surgery on Monday, abroad, and tomorrow I'm travelling to be with my folks until Tuesday. Point being, I will hardly be able to check in at all.
The upside is Skizzopat did something completely unexpected which will let me head back into a path not miles from the one I originally planned, with some tweaks, with no time to check whether I could make it better using the nationality card after 5th
Oh, I'll also leave them instructions on two players that look linked but aren't at all. You see, most sites think of seasons in the European cycle while in South America it is usually Mar-Oct. Therefore, it is often the case a player joining in February 1970 is classed as 1969-70 but there's none of the 69 season in him, while another leaving in December (three months earlier) also shows up as 1969-70 but in actual fact even if they had 15 games each (if there's a gamecount at all) they haven't played together.
Anyhow, enjoy the clusterfecks. Whoever makes the biggest killing in the 80s-00s will ultimately win this, so it's worth fighting for every inch. Cutch and Tuppet looking like the sides to beat so far.
Ta-ra.
There's absolutely ZERO chance any of them will get blocked so it should be plain sailing with the chain I leave behind. I'll try get the writeups done before leaving tomorrow.
Thanks for the well-wishing
I felt really bad about that. But then, you got me to start thinking about chains and how best to play ti and next thing I knew I was hooked!
I'm only messing! It was no problem all. I've learned loads from doing this one completely arseways on my own!
@Aldo is online right?
Yes?
@antohan best of luck man, hope everything goes smoothly.
Wow, that's tough, @antohan. I hope that your dad's surgery goes well, mate.
Also, I look forward to your fast, seamless picks as well.
Also, I look forward to your fast, seamless picks as well.
anto said you have his next pick?
Wow, it's just me talking to myself here...
Anyway IMPORTANT NOTICE
@Edgar Allan Pillow, you won't have to put up with me any more
One reason I wasn't keen on getting involved, planned everything to go dark through an unbeaten path, got royally pissed off at all the paths being blocked, all the rules being up in the air while I had to head into the 80s was that my dad is getting surgery on Monday, abroad, and tomorrow I'm travelling to be with my folks until Tuesday. Point being, I will hardly be able to check in at all.
The upside is Skizzopat did something completely unexpected which will let me head back into a path not miles from the one I originally planned, with some tweaks, with no time to check whether I could make it better using the nationality card after 5th
Oh, I'll also leave them instructions on two players that look linked but aren't at all. You see, most sites think of seasons in the European cycle while in South America it is usually Mar-Oct. Therefore, it is often the case a player joining in February 1970 is classed as 1969-70 but there's none of the 69 season in him, while another leaving in December (three months earlier) also shows up as 1969-70 but in actual fact even if they had 15 games each (if there's a gamecount at all) they haven't played together.
Anyhow, enjoy the clusterfecks. Whoever makes the biggest killing in the 80s-00s will ultimately win this, so it's worth fighting for every inch. Cutch and Tuppet looking like the sides to beat so far.
Ta-ra.
He hasn't left yet, I believe he will be picking shortly.
Oops, sorry, didn't notice the Vieira pick. Post pictures guys, that's easier!
Give me a sec.
Give me a sec.
José João Altafini
Also known as Mazzola due to his uncanny resemblance of Valentino Mazzola, one of the tragic Superga victims. Altafini spent twenty years playing at the highest level, notably at Milan (where he averaged a 2 in 3 ratio, 1gpg in his better seasons) and Juventus. Remarkably, he held the record for most goals in a single European Cup -14- until it was smashed by Cristiano -17- a couple of seasons ago, on a per game basis he is still ahead though.
He won everything there is for a player to win: 4 Serie A titles, 1 European Cup and 1 World Cup. While he was clearly instrumental to the EC win, his luck at World Cups was mixed. In 1958 he started with a bang scoring a brace, only to get injured, return and assist Pelé against Wales, and then missing out on the semi and final. In 1962, being abroad meant not being called up so he played for Italy who had a disastrous campaign and, as per usual, much of the blame was aimed at “the foreigner” when Italy’s problems were largely disciplinary and nothing to do with Mazzola.
Playing style: a stocky Brazilian, no pushover, deadly finisher, with great silks in tight spaces and a great burst of pace. No, I’m not going to say he belongs in the same bracket as Romario, but the similarities are uncanny. I would rather say he was an Inzaghi on steroids, particularly because his pace meant he didn’t need to be offside
I never understood the rationale in these Top 10 Goals clips, but #9, #7, #6 and #1 are good examples to illustrate the points above. Of course, Romario would have cheekily lobbed the one that won the European Cup, and therein lies the difference.
Link with Scirea at Juventus 1974-75.
Also known as Mazzola due to his uncanny resemblance of Valentino Mazzola, one of the tragic Superga victims. Altafini spent twenty years playing at the highest level, notably at Milan (where he averaged a 2 in 3 ratio, 1gpg in his better seasons) and Juventus. Remarkably, he held the record for most goals in a single European Cup -14- until it was smashed by Cristiano -17- a couple of seasons ago, on a per game basis he is still ahead though.
He won everything there is for a player to win: 4 Serie A titles, 1 European Cup and 1 World Cup. While he was clearly instrumental to the EC win, his luck at World Cups was mixed. In 1958 he started with a bang scoring a brace, only to get injured, return and assist Pelé against Wales, and then missing out on the semi and final. In 1962, being abroad meant not being called up so he played for Italy who had a disastrous campaign and, as per usual, much of the blame was aimed at “the foreigner” when Italy’s problems were largely disciplinary and nothing to do with Mazzola.
Playing style: a stocky Brazilian, no pushover, deadly finisher, with great silks in tight spaces and a great burst of pace. No, I’m not going to say he belongs in the same bracket as Romario, but the similarities are uncanny. I would rather say he was an Inzaghi on steroids, particularly because his pace meant he didn’t need to be offside
I never understood the rationale in these Top 10 Goals clips, but #9, #7, #6 and #1 are good examples to illustrate the points above. Of course, Romario would have cheekily lobbed the one that won the European Cup, and therein lies the difference.
Link with Scirea at Juventus 1974-75.
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N.Santos (Botafogo) 3. J.Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M.Ramos
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G.Baresi (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan)
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi
@mazhar13
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juventus) 4. Altafini (Juventus)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N.Santos (Botafogo) 3. J.Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M.Ramos
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juventus)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G.Baresi (Inter)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juventus) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan)
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi
@mazhar13
Crap, you just know that @antohan will be one of the favourites of this draft. Altafini is an amazing pick IMO.
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Yup, we were indeed on a collision course before we opted to change path. Good pick, although for us we felt the balance wasn't quite right between him and Charles/Sivori. Although feck knows what we end with instead
.Is this final?
@antohan hope everything goes well with the surgery.
@Edgar Allan Pillow if Albertini isn't valid as per the rules, you can give me a sheep or replacement or whatever the punishment is. I don't mind. I'm happy as long as the rules are kept to and consistent for all. This might impact a little on a future pick I was eyeing up too - how would the main league rule be if two players played together in the regional leagues in Brazil?
@Edgar Allan Pillow if Albertini isn't valid as per the rules, you can give me a sheep or replacement or whatever the punishment is. I don't mind. I'm happy as long as the rules are kept to and consistent for all. This might impact a little on a future pick I was eyeing up too - how would the main league rule be if two players played together in the regional leagues in Brazil?
Don't make him change the rule again, he might call off this draft
Don't make him change the rule again, he might call off this draft
Not now that I got back into my groove. I'm starting to write Pick 8 as we speak. Page 5 in a Word document. Happy reading!
And you'd better "release" Schiaffino at some point as the entire thing is designed to be able to pick him up if he is! Pressure... lol
@mazhar13 Picking soon?
Brazilians love handing out nicknames. The country’s 1962 FIFA World Cup squad was a case in point. It included ‘The Boss’, ‘‘The Joy of the People’, ‘The Cannon of the Vila’, ‘The Possessed One’, ‘The King’ and ‘Steel Chest’.
Sound like formidable players? ****, Garrincha, ****, ****, Pele and **** most certainly were.
But had strikers such as Ferenc Puskas of Spain, Englishman **** and Czechoslovakia’s Adolf Scherer had known the Brazilian who was going to mark them on Chilean soil was nicknamed after Miss Brasil, they would have assumed they would be able to bully him about.
They would have been very much mistaken. Not one of them, indeed, was on the score-sheet when Mauro Ramos was acting as their guard.
The defender was fondly known as Martha Rocha, the maiden Miss Brasil in 1954 and an extremely close runner-up to American Miriam Stevenson in that year’s Miss World, because of his seldom capacity to make crunching tackles and win headers with elegance rather than brute force. The appellation was also a play on words, as rocha means "rock" in Portuguese, and for all his self-possession Mauro was also an obdurate bastion that few attackers breached. A notably dapper dresser off the pitch, Mauro cut just as elegant a figure on it. A stylish centre-half, he was rather cool and unhurried on the ball - characteristics generally unheard of from a centre back hailing from that era.
Mauro won his first cap for Brazil in 1949, and was in the side that won the South American championship that year. However, he had to wait another decade before properly establishing himself as first choice in his position.
In the interim he had to content himself with four championships in the Sao Paulo league (in 1948, 1949, 1953 and 1957) and with winning the Brazilian Cup in 1960. That year, however, after 12 seasons and 444 games for Sao Paulo, he was transferred for five million cruzeiros (about £10,000) to Santos, which now embarked on the greatest years in its history, winning the Sao Paulo league every year from 1961 until 1965, and the Cup in all but one of those years.
However, it was in the 1962 WC in which he truly left his mark on the game and wrote his name into history. The tournament, which was held in Chile, was dominated by defensive tactics, and by reckless and deliberate foul play. In the first round, Chile and Italy came to blows in what became known as "The Battle of Santiago"; while Eduard Dubinksi, the Soviet Union defender, had his leg broken so badly by a Yugoslav that he subsequently died of his injuries. Then, in the next round, brutal tackling caused Brazil to lose Pele for the rest of the competition.
It was now that Mauro showed his mettle. With the help of the veteran left back Nilton Santos, he massaged the confidence of the youthful ****, Pele's replacement, and goaded the winger Garrincha into displaying the form of his life. With striker **** also beginning to excel himself, Brazil brushed past England 3-1 in the quarter-finals and, after overcoming the hosts, were pitted against Czechoslovakia in the final itself. When the Czechs took an early lead, Mauro again rallied his players, and the team eventually won 3-1, so retaining their World Cup.
At one point of time, many felt Mauro would never showcase his talent on world football’s grandest platform, after being left out of the 1950 and 1954 WC squads and not being afforded any minutes in the 1958 edition. But that’s something Mauro achieved in emphatic fashion and in style. For not only did the man just shy of his 33rd birthday play every minute as Brazil retained their title in Chile, but he did so in the captain’s armband having relegated the great Bellini to the bench.
Sorry, just saw this.
I'll pick after some time. It may not be immediately after, though.