Cesc Fabregas

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Cal? said:
:confused: Xavi, Iniesta, Sneijder, that's 3 definitely better, and plenty more debatable ones.
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I think Xavi's a level on his own, then Iniesta and Fabregas are on the level below with Fabregas just edging it, and then Sneijder, Ozil, Schweinsteiger are all a level below that.
 
alastair said:
There was one against Hull a couple of years back when he was accused of spitting on the assistant manager. Subsequently, it came out that he just made it up, out of bitterness. It happens all the time. Only at the weekend did a story come out about him refusing to give shirts out, and the true story was almost completely different.
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alastair said:
The Huddersfield player who said that Cesc said feck off at him later retracted the comment, because he'd made it up.
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Do you have any sources confirming this?

As far as I remember the charges for the Hull incident were dropped in because of a lack of evidence, not because these players/staff members retracted their accusations.
 
King_Eric said:
Do you have any sources confirming this?

As far as I remember the charges for the Hull incident were dropped in because of a lack of evidence, not because these players/staff members retracted their accusations.
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Well for the Hull one, Brian Horton was asked to supply his story(from memory) in order to clear it up, and he chose not to say anything. Fabregas always denied it, and apparently he didn't even go anywhere near him in the tunnel.

I've looked for a source for the Huddersfield one, and I can't find any. I could have sworn, however, that the bloke said that he said it in the heat of the moment, and that he didn't want to make a big deal of it. Fabregas alluded to it in his programme notes, but I can't find that online.
 
Right, I just got this quite wonderful PM from Alila86 in the newbies around this issue.

"This was the original tweet by Anthony Pilkington:


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Pilkington11: "2 lads asked him for his shirt and he told them to f*ck off!! @Pelts_86 @GaryRoberts7"

Gary Roberts, who also has a Twitter account, then followed up by tweeting this:


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Gary Roberts: "@KloeS_04 no he never told me to f*ck off!"

and this:


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Gary Roberts: "@mattafcuk didn't ask for his shirt u clown"

A little while after, Anthony Pilkington took his comments back with this tweet:


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Pilkington11: "Alrite tweeps my bad sorry bad tweet heat of moment! Was gutted we lost after doing so well!!"

Shortly after, his account was deleted altogether, so that's why you can't find any source. Gary Roberts' account is still active though, so you can still find his tweets if you like."

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So there you have it. That's research for you.
 
This is not the first time Cesc has had a problem with another manager. Remember the controversy with Phil Brown and him accusing Cesc of spitting?

He seems a calm guy, Cesc but I think at times he gets really edgy.
 
Ronaldo No.9 said:
Always remember him telling Rio to feck off when they equalised a few years back at the Emirates.
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How old was he back then? ;)

I like Fabregas, but my judgement on him as a person is a bit clouded because I absolutely admire him as a player, what an incredible footballer. I think many people don't give him enough credit, he's still young and when he moves to Barcelona - a team arguably better than Arsenal - and reaches his peak, he'll become even better than Xavi is today.
 
londonredmaniac said:
:lol: Van Persie plays in yours old boy.
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Who are you kidding mate, if we're talking about scumbags, wankers and the cocks of Football you can look no further than United's very own Wayne Rooney (and Terry).

Absolute scum of a human being... Too bad he also happens to be very good at Football.
 
Brwned said:
I think Xavi's a level on his own, then Iniesta and Fabregas are on the level below with Fabregas just edging it, and then Sneijder, Ozil, Schweinsteiger are all a level below that.
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Don't bother, you will never ever get a reasonable well thought-out response from him when it has anything to do with Arsenal.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
Who are you kidding mate, if we're talking about scumbags, wankers and the cocks of Football you can look no further than United's very own Wayne Rooney (and Terry).

Absolute scum of a human being... Too bad he also happens to be very good at Football.
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This is the problem with Arsenal fans. Can't discuss anything about their club without them going all PMT and constantly trying to drag United into it.

This is a thread about Cesc Fabregas. If you want to discuss Rooney there's plenty of threads for that. You'll find alot of people who agree with you about him.

Now stop getting your knickers in a twist just because Cesc is a scumbag.
 
Scholesy said:
This does not make him a 'massive cheat' and in the same league of 'Busquets and Terry', are you a wum?

I only read ratings forums when the match is not on television or I am watching United instead.
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the question was whether he's a cheat or not

Iniesta has a reputation for going to ground easily IN LALIGA

it tells you all you need to know

and no, you read ratings forums to say Arsenal's front 6 are only second to Barca
 
Wenger backs under-fire Fabregas



Arsene Wenger has claimed Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas was the subject of a witch hunt.

According to Everton manager David Moyes, the Spain midfielder made unrepeatable comments to match officials as the players went down the tunnel at half-time of their Barclays Premier League clash at Emirates Stadium on Tuesday night, which should have earned him a red card, but Lee Mason did not include the incident in his report.

Asked if he thought there was a witch hunt against Fabregas, the Arsenal manager replied: "Yes. We are long enough in the job to know that somebody picks on you for a while, and you are in the heat of the moment. But for me what is the most important is the player behaves well."

He added: "When Cesc is on the pitch, he tries to play football - I cannot say everybody who plays against him tries to do that.

"For example, some people reproach him for not exchanging shirts with a player after the game - but I hope he will not exchange shirts with players who try to kick him for 90 minutes and them come to say 'please can I get your shirt'. I think that is a normal and natural reaction.

"Overall this guy is an example on the football pitch and shows you how to play football."

Wenger, however, feels Fabregas has the strength of character to silence the critics.

"People are more demanding, and Cesc has to live with that," the Arsenal manager said. "It is not easy, but he is a very intelligent man and he will learn very quickly to cope with that.

"Cesc is 24 this year, he has played 250 games in the Premier League - at that age, it is absolutely remarkable.

"He has gone through a lot, difficult moments, but has always come out stronger - this guy is a fantastic leader."
 
Brwned said:
I think Xavi's a level on his own, then Iniesta and Fabregas are on the level below with Fabregas just edging it, and then Sneijder, Ozil, Schweinsteiger are all a level below that.
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Well, del Bosque doesn't agree with you. Iniesta has been picked ahead of Fabregas for the last few years.

As for Sneijder, there are plenty of respected managers who believe he should have won Ballon d'Or, no one, not even Wenger :wenger: can make a case for Fabregas.
 
Cal? said:
Well, del Bosque doesn't agree with you. Iniesta has been picked ahead of Fabregas for the last few years.

As for Sneijder, there are plenty of respected managers who believe he should have won Ballon d'Or, no one, not even Wenger :wenger: can make a case for Fabregas.
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because of what he won, not ability alone
 
cesc's_mullet said:
Who are you kidding mate, if we're talking about scumbags, wankers and the cocks of Football you can look no further than United's very own Wayne Rooney (and Terry).

Absolute scum of a human being... Too bad he also happens to be very good at Football.
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Kidding nobody. All I'm saying is it's easy to hate others and forgive one of your own.

Said it in a previous post, who gives a feck when they are doing the business?
 
Boss said:
because of what he won, not ability alone
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He won what he won because of his performances, surely performances is ultimately the most important.

Also, the entire Inter squad won just as much, but most agreed that Sneijder was the key player.
 
Cal? said:
He won what he won because of his performances, surely performances is ultimately the most important.

Also, the entire Inter squad won just as much, but most agreed that Sneijder was the key player.
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Milito was the key player, it's hard to deny the Argentine that

not just his performances but a great team effort

he doesn't have the ability of Fabregas but each to his own
 
Boss said:
Milito was the key player, it's hard to deny the Argentine that

not just his performances but a great team effort

he doesn't have the ability of Fabregas but each to his own
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I'm sorry, but ability means squat if not translated into great performances.

Sneijder has proven in 09/10 that he's one of the very best in the world by putting in numerous top performances, almost winning everything.

Fabregas has yet to show he can do that, ever...
 
Cal? said:
I'm sorry, but ability means squat if not translated into great performances.

Sneijder has proven in 09/10 that he's one of the very best in the world by putting in numerous top performances, almost winning everything.

Fabregas has yet to show he can do that, ever...
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I thought Fabregas has been doing that for a number of seasons now?

you make it seem like Wesley did it on his own aswell, Sneijder is overrated on here, he's had only one season on top and he wasn't even better than Milito
 
from a Newbie slydogg

on fabregas
just want to tell you that last season fabregas scored 19 goals and created 19 goals in 36 appearences

sneidjer could only score 9 goals and 12 assists in 43 appearences. Sneidjer was a bit like arshavin in the fact that he scored vital goals but didnt do much else except from that. Lampard was a better midfielder than him last year in my opinion.
 
Boss said:
I thought Fabregas has been doing that for a number of seasons now?

you make it seem like Wesley did it on his own aswell, Sneijder is overrated on here, he's had only one season on top and he wasn't even better than Milito
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I fail to see how Fabregas has ever put in performances worthy of comparison with Sneijder last season, ever.

I, happen to agree with numerous people who have said that Sneijder should have won Ballon d'Or.
 
Boss said:
from a Newbie slydogg

on fabregas
just want to tell you that last season fabregas scored 19 goals and created 19 goals in 36 appearences

sneidjer could only score 9 goals and 12 assists in 43 appearences. Sneidjer was a bit like arshavin in the fact that he scored vital goals but didnt do much else except from that. Lampard was a better midfielder than him last year in my opinion.
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That would mean Forlan was the best player in La Liga during Barca's Treble season.
 
Cal? said:
I fail to see how Fabregas has ever put in performances worthy of comparison with Sneijder last season, ever.

I, happen to agree with numerous people who have said that Sneijder should have won Ballon d'Or.
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based on what he won, his performances did not equate to being the best in the worl, nowhere near and he was outshone by Milito in the Inter team

his actual performances were noway worthy of a balondor
 
Boss said:
based on what he won, his performances did not equate to being the best in the worl, nowhere near and he was outshone by Milito in the Inter team

his actual performances were noway worthy of a balondor
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And Iniesta's were worthy of inclusion?

Hogwash. Sneijder had a brilliant 2010 and World Cup. He was as worthy as anyone else.
 
Boss said:
based on what he won, his performances did not equate to being the best in the worl, nowhere near and he was outshone by Milito in the Inter team

his actual performances were noway worthy of a balondor
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Funny how everyone seem to think Sneijder was the linchpin of that Inter side, yet you disagree. Would it be rather than the rest of the Caf over-rate Sneijder, you under-rate him?
 
Boss said:
I agree Iniesta should have been nowhere near the award, actual performances Sneijder wasn't worth of the award either and the people made the correct decision
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The people being all those who voted for Xavi and somehow had their vote changed to Xabi? :lol:

Messi won very little in 2010 and bottled it on the biggest stages, pretty clear Fifa rigged the voting to give him the award.
 
Kraftwerker said:
This is the problem with Arsenal fans. Can't discuss anything about their club without them going all PMT and constantly trying to drag United into it.

This is a thread about Cesc Fabregas. If you want to discuss Rooney there's plenty of threads for that. You'll find alot of people who agree with you about him.

Now stop getting your knickers in a twist just because Cesc is a scumbag.
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My knickers are in a twist? :lol:

That's the problem with Arsenal fans? :lol: Don't be fecking daft, that happens everywhere... Especially on here.

Anyway, I told Alastair to let everyone have their fun before. If this story was actually true I'd have no problem with calling Fabregas a cock.
 
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