Wonder whose plan it is, considering he was one of Jose's warriors and when in doubt, Jose wants one of his ex players.
Centre Back... Who do we go for?
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Wonder whose plan it is, considering he was one of Jose's warriors and when in doubt, Jose wants one of his ex players.
Doubt mourinho threw a tantrum so that he could sign a 32yr old cahill who cant get into the chelsea backline.
If we sign cahill its cos he is the one Ed approved of cos other targets are not worth it.
Since the bucs won the superbowl, they have made the playoffs only 2x in 15yrs. Only the brown have been a worse franchise. Glazers are not sports fan and will only invest to the extent that they get bigger returns. Recent spending has been for CL and doubt they are willing to commit the kind of unprofitable money to challenge an oil fueled citeh for the title
Well he was on his knees so that Fellaini can sign contract extension, wants Young to sign new contract and also play 50 games this year.
So it's going to be Woodward's signing
As expected. Thanks.If you are not getting quality replacements if any at all, what do you expect him to do? let the ones he has go?Well he was on his knees so that Fellaini can sign contract extension, wants Young to sign new contract and also play 50 games this year.
So it's going to be Woodward's signing
Give mourinho unlimited budget and he would clear out almost everyone on the squad
Cahill is the perfect experienced one of my guys players mou would love to sign. It would be perfect for us too as we will shut mou's yob regarding his constant need of new cbs while keeping the big money for our next manager to spend
Mourinho won't go for him due to his height
We have the largest wage bill in the PL according to the Daily Mail yesterday. Its larger than Citehs. The wage bill is by far the best way to judge if the owners are prepared to spend money or not. This narrative is so tiring.
Nothing about signing Gary Cahill would be perfect for us. Luckily there are people at the club who would never allow a deal like that to happen.
I beg to differ. Its pretty evident that unless Mou makes it to top 4 then he'll be out. On the other hand the owners wouldn't want a disgruntled employee shifting all the blame on them. Cahill will give Mou the typical experienced defender he had been asking for without us spending ridiculous amounts of money for it. This will allow us to spend the real money in the summer.
For me its two different arguments/discussions what one thinks should be done and what one thinks Mourinho will do. These two arguments should be kept separate more often here to prevent unnecessary discord.
Me for example thinks that bringing Cahill in now in January would be a fecking disaster and I really dont ever want to see that happen. For so many reasons.
Do I think that Mourinho is considering it: Absolutely, and I would not be surprised at all if it happens.
replace them with 29-32 year olds and ex players
Why would we buy a player with the sole intention of pacifying a manager who won't be here in 6 months? It would be stupid and indulgent.
We should be planning for the next manager, not making his task more difficult. If the right player comes along in January and the circumstances are right, sign him. If not, don't waste a penny more on this failing manager and wait for the summer window.
I'd rather we go for Brazilian Alex. he's only 36 or Gallas as he has experience
His built speaks for itself I guess. Safe for positional mistakes he doesn't lose headers and it's impossible to bully him, I think some commentator mentioned that he's leading the league in terms of "defensive duels won %". He's also relatively quick for someone his size. I'd say he's decent on the ball as well. Not exactly someone who dribbles into the first pressing line, but he seems entirely unimpressed when opponents try to pressure him during build-up and I've seen him play some very good penetrating passes this season.
He's made some naive errors this season, giving away a penalty against Berlin and he was lucky to avoid another one the following game.
I think the talent is there to be a very good cb, all he needs to do is mature more and perhaps work a bit on his agility, but he's already a fairly decent CB, who seems to have little trouble keeping Toprak out of the team.
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Godin for £20M, I suppose we might get a couple of seasons out of him:
http://www.espn.co.uk/soccer/blog/t...anuary-deal-for-atletico-defender-diego-godin
http://www.espn.co.uk/soccer/blog/t...anuary-deal-for-atletico-defender-diego-godin
Skriniar, Koulibaly or De Ligt and stay away from Aldeweireld..
According to the Daily Star..
Thanks @do.ob much appreciated!
Huge, strong in the air, impossible to bully, tidy passing and very calm.
I think he would suit us!
Huge, strong in the air, impossible to bully, tidy passing and very calm.
I think he would suit us!
If it's a quick short term fix, then Godin in January with a scoring right winger. Then spend big in the summer.
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No its not cos its often cheaper to pay higher wages for older players than signing a new player of better quality.
What you really want to see is if they are willing to invest at championship contending levels or simply settle for top 4 trophy. That we did nothing to close the gap with citeh last summer hints at the latter.
Its not. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about so I am out of discussing with you. Ignore-list.
This Upamecano kid from Leipzig always turns into a fantastic CB in FM. How's he in real life?
De legt was very impressive tonight. We need two centre halves that can form a partnership. I wonder is godin left or right footed? He would be ideal with a young centerback.
So 6m salary for young> 50m/5yr transfer + 5m salary for new LB like Mendy?
Were you not paying attention or simply skipped elementary school?
Yes its not as if we do not know De Light. He is a known quantity from the Europa Lige too. A step on all what we have,
United have probably been tracking him for 4+ years.
Yeah Mendy will play only for 5 years and ManUtd don't have to buy new LB as Young won't be there forever. 6m for young + future transfer fee and wages for new LB is how you calculate.
cos after 5yrs Mendy would be around 30 and you would be faced with the same question- extend older LB or sign new younger one!
6m for young + future transfer fee and wages for new LB is how you calculate.
cos after 5yrs Mendy would be around 30 and you would be faced with the same question- extend older LB or sign new younger one!
6m for young + future transfer fee and wages for new LB is how you calculate.
Sure why not. Mendy was 23 when city signed, so after 5 years he will be around 30 and they will sign young LB. After all players are done at 28. On the other hand we have to back manager and sign 29-30 year old players for big money. Amazing logic and consistency.
Ok so Mendy is 28yrs - it is still same question: extend older player or buy younger one. The extension is still the cheaper option.
never understood why people make things up. At no point have I advocated for buying older players (except in the case of a CB) and repeatedly criticized buying Matic and Sanchez. I have also said that you can back a manager by addressing the needs he has identified and dont need to buy only the players he has on his original list.
But never mind all that, stick with your alternative facts
Yeah 28 means clubs should buy young players
Just post anything to make a point, which was wrong.
A club needs to really weigh extending a player at 28yr on a contract that would take them to their 30s when they would be in decline or sign a new younger player. Matic and Sanchez are just 30yrs when we got them and we can all see how that has worked out. If you think its not true, then please show when it is not true and how common your scenario is.Yeah 28 means clubs should buy young players
Just post anything to make a point, which was wrong.
All you have been doing is trying to shift goalposts from my original point i.e. extension is usually cheaper than signing younger quality replacement.
No. Your point that extension of young is cheaper than signing Mendy was not correct. Signing 28 year old is different from signing 23 year old and then extending his contract when he is 28. Extending Young's contract means we will have to sign replacement in 2 years, so obviously extending Young's contract costs more to the club.
Mendy will give 10 years of service. Young at max will give 2, then signing one more LB for next 8 years. Yeah go on and do the math.
Won't be surprised if your next post is how club wants young for next 10 years.
No its cheaper for the club over the same period of time cos they would have gotten 2 more years before incurring the expense of the new signing. You cannot say Mendy would give 10yrs while the new LB is limited to giving only 8 yrs. if we sign mendy today and keep for 10yrs, we would need to sign a new player in 10yrs but if we sign a new player 2yrs from now, the replacement would not be needed till 12yrs from now.
To illustrate, we can look at the financial cost over 20yrs with 50m transfer and 5m salary
1. Extending for 10 yrs means you only need to sign 2 players to cover 20yrs = 100m transfer + 20*5m salary= 200m
2. Buy new every 5yrs gives 200m transfer + 20*5m salary = 300m
Of course you can make some adjustments for salary increases but it is unlikely to match the additional transfer costs.
Thus is one of the majn reasons you keep players for longer periods cos the total cost of ownership is spread over the same period is less. The more frequently i replace my matured players the higher my costs.
It is only not true if I am a ' selling club' and pick younger unknowns to groom and sell at peak value but that is a different model that has a higher failure rate.
Yeah I think @cheeky_backheel original point was it’s cheaper for the owners right now to extend an older player’s contract.
Not sure why it’s escalated into such an extended debate @roonster09
I see what you’re saying but it’s a slightly different point.
Not sure why it’s escalated into such an extended debate @roonster09
I see what you’re saying but it’s a slightly different point.
I am torn about Godin. He is a damn good player still and used to playing in a lowblock defence at Atletico. If Mourinho had gone for him two years ago and not bought Lindelöf and Bailly I would have been all for it.
Now it would be a stop-gap solution that would cement Godin and Smalling in our central defence as long as Mourinho stays and most likely force a player like Bailly out.
Maybe if we were fighting for the league and with a realistic possibility to win the CL, it might be a good idea. Now I lean to that it would just stop us from addressing the CB-position next summer long-term.
And then he needs to want to come as well, we reportedly met his release clause last summer and he said no.
Now it would be a stop-gap solution that would cement Godin and Smalling in our central defence as long as Mourinho stays and most likely force a player like Bailly out.
Maybe if we were fighting for the league and with a realistic possibility to win the CL, it might be a good idea. Now I lean to that it would just stop us from addressing the CB-position next summer long-term.
And then he needs to want to come as well, we reportedly met his release clause last summer and he said no.
There is no way Godin signs and Smalling keeps his place