The only reason he is still good enough for Bayern is because Boateng has been worse. With the way they are playing Pavard-Sule might be their first choice CB pair next season. Hummels has shown signs of decline so far this season he would not be a fix for our defense.
Centre Back... Who do we go for?
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The only reason he is still good enough for Bayern is because Boateng has been worse. With the way they are playing Pavard-Sule might be their first choice CB pair next season. Hummels has shown signs of decline so far this season he would not be a fix for our defense.
The question would be what do you think is the problem with our defence, then can you answer who can or cannot fix it?
KDB I did miss out on accident, my bad. He'd be in the squad for sure.
The rest? No, I'm not sure they'd get in my club squad over every other player in the world. There are players in their positions performing of a better standard than they are so how can they be "World Class" if they arent on the same class/level as those players?
If by "World Class" you mean "good player" then sure they're all good players and so is Chris Smalling. But what a misuse of "World class"
Andersen from Sampdoria. You're welcome 
Andersen from Sampdoria. You're welcome
If it's not much of bother can you tell us what kind of cb is he and how does he compare to other talented Center backs in Serie A.
Andersen from Sampdoria. You're welcome
Inter are very interested on him to replace Miranda and the talks seems to be advanced.
He's played 7 games and juventus and inter are already going to war for him
Seriously, very calm, composed, great positional sense, reading of the game and anticipation, pretty good on the air, confident with the ball at his feet. Very small sample size but he's looked very special so far
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Alderweireld looked dreadful on Monday night and has struggled for most of this year.
People who think he’ll come in and fix everything are in for a shock.
He's played 7 games and Juventus and inter are already going to war for him
Seriously, very calm, composed, great positional sense, Reading of the game and anticipation, pretty good on the air, confident with the ball at his feet. Very small sample size but he's looked very special so far
Thanks both of you I hope we are keeping track of him as well, but with Bailly and Lindelof and other young prospects from academy club might not be in for another young cb.
I always think their crest looks like a silhouette of a Gorillaz cartoon character smoking a pipe
Can't unsee that now.I always think their crest looks like a silhouette of a Gorillaz cartoon character smoking a pipe
That rules us out. Doesn't sound like the type of player we'd to for.He's played 7 games and Juventus and inter are already going to war for him
Seriously, very calm, composed, great positional sense, Reading of the game and anticipation, pretty good on the air, confident with the ball at his feet. Very small sample size but he's looked very special so far
What is it supposed to be?
EDIT: I literally just googled their crest and this image came up:
I'm not the only one
isn't he playing on the opposite side of the backline compared to where he normally plays for some reason. I heard someone on the tele mentioning that.
Been linked wih Nathan Ake, who I think is a really good defender.
Interesting
Depends on how much we are paying
So did Van Dijk after he started playing again at Southampton after injury and being denied a move. Half hearted. Alderwiereld will be the same. Notice how good he was when he came to Old Trafford.
For Alderweireld, i dont mind waiting till summer to get him for 25m if only just to stick it to levy. but we need to bring in a defensive leader by the summer but there are limited options.
For January, we can a try for a younger physically dominant type, left footed and can play LB, and poses an aerial threat on set pieces. Only smalling seems to offer anything offensively of all our CBs.
Still waiting for our scouting team to discover a rough gem
For January, we can a try for a younger physically dominant type, left footed and can play LB, and poses an aerial threat on set pieces. Only smalling seems to offer anything offensively of all our CBs.
Still waiting for our scouting team to discover a rough gem
Many players raise their game for 1 match at United. We need players who are at their best for more than 1 match a season
A sailorWhat is it supposed to be?
He is. Which is another reason he won’t fix everything.
Bailly and Smalling are our two best central defenders, both of which play on the right side. Tuanzebe also plays there. It’s the other side that needs investment, as Lindelof and Rojo aren’t good enough and Jones is forever unfit (and arguably not good enough).
in reality none of our CBs are elite level which is what a team with our budget should have- Rio and Vidic level which is something Smalling will never be. Bailly I'm not sure about as he's still Young - Lindelof has improved so jury is out on him but you'd see him as backup to the first team ideally
Having watched him for a long time, don’t think there’ll be any problems with Alderweireld being at his best for One than one match a season. However that night struck me as someone trying to impress in that game for a reason.
Outside of Bonucci, Chiellini and Godin central defenders are a much of a muchness. A well-coached team and good central defenders can take a team far. Stefan Savic was never up to a great deal. Neither was Miranda. Both excelled at Atletico in the right set up.
Bailly has had a few bad games this year and been sent to the back burner. He’ll have a few good games when he’s put back into the team and lots of people will remember why they initially thought he could be excellent (aerial ability notwithstanding). Fickle lot, football fans.
Elite level? That’s just a buzzword. Ramos and Varane are apparently that. But plonk them in a poorly performing side and they look shite (see present day Madrid).
I do think we need a proper left sided defender, though. Somebody strong, physical and good in the air. That Napoli fella, Koulibally, seems like a sort.
Bonucci was pretty bad for milan and has yet to look good in the league. Savic was very good for fiorentina before moving to Atletico and Miranda is great.
Bonucci has more pedigree over time. Savic and Miranda are good defenders. The point I’m making is that they wouldn’t usually be described as ‘elite’, or whatever that means. Moreso, good players of that ilk can conform to a well structured team and look very good as a result of a working system. Lumping them in a poorly performing side will generally just reduce the level of their own performance. You could apply this to lots of defenders, to be honest.
Having watched him this season and last, I'm very concerned. But I don't think we'll go for him so no problem.
I'm a fan of Bailly but he needs to play more
Jose dropped him for the last couple of months of last season and he hasn't got going this year. He's got a bit of the Phil Jones about him in terms of looking like he might injure himself - he needs games
as far as elite goes we are looking for the kind of defender who doesn't regularly make costly errors, who dominates and organises defence and who helps the others play better - VVD has had that kind of impact
We need to add Nathan Ake to the list. He can be a monster of a defender.
Now we must go for proven and unfortunately expensive centre back. No new unproven and youngish defenders. We need leader defender
Smalling just proved my point today... The guy cannot defend or tackle even if he had to save his life. Smalling, Jones and Matic need to leave immediately if we need to rebuild our team. Sanchez and Lukaku have not been contributing much but I feel the moment we have some trust in our defense to do their job and our midfielders and strikers free to perform their job of creating and scoring, we'll be a much better team. Although I want Jose out, I do agree that we need some leadership in defense. Smalling and Jones are not the leaders. Lindelof does well when he is led by someone else. Not sure what is going on with Bailly... he needs to be playing instead of Smalling. If not, we need to get Romangnoli from Milan... The guy is very composed on the ball. Chucking 100m for Koulibaly is a huge risk...
Would Maguire make us more solid?
Nah. That large-headed ship has sailed. He signed a new contract, if Ed didn't think he was worth it last summer, he definitely won't be worth their asking price now. Plus, he hasn't been great this season whenever I've seen him.
Like I told Glaston the other day new contracts mean feck all other than higher transfer fees.
Except it's not true. A new long contract makes it undeniably less likely - not impossible, but less likely - that a player will be sold in the year or two following.
I don't think Alderweireld is the right one for us now. We need more mobility in our CB's as well as toughness.
Someone who can read the game well, is a good passer of the ball and not injury prone, is what we need right now.
I would rather whoever we go for has many years left in him and is a leader. We must get the right one/two this time.
Someone who can read the game well, is a good passer of the ball and not injury prone, is what we need right now.
I would rather whoever we go for has many years left in him and is a leader. We must get the right one/two this time.
Alderweireld January try to save the season Romagnoli/Koulibaly in summer Play 352
I dont think Leicester can expect the same money that was being talked about post-England World Cup hype and further on from the VVD purchase