Celebrity Allegations, #MeToo etc

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/feb/23/charlize-theron-tom-hardy-mad-max-fury-road-book

Charlize Theron ‘felt so threatened’ by Tom Hardy making Mad Max she required on-set protection

New book details allegations of unprofessional behaviour and aggression during making of George Miller’s 2015 blockbuster Mad Max: Fury Road

When Hardy finally arrived, Theron asked Hardy: “How disrespectful are you?” and said the producers should “fine the fecking cnut a hundred thousand dollars for every minute that he’s held up this crew”.
 
Dunno but I scoured it for the gory details and all I found was this:

a junior colleague who told investigators that Sabatini had sexually harassed her

It's so vague.

A subsequent investigation by a third-party law firm, Hinkley Allen & Snyder, revealed that Sabatini had failed to disclose a relationship with a colleague “over whom he held a career-influencing role,” according to an email to the MIT community about the outcome of the probe. The investigation found that Sabatini violated the institute's policies on sexual misconduct due to his relationship with a woman who was a graduate student in another lab at MIT before starting her own lab as a fellow at Whitehead in 2018. Those policies forbid sexual relationships between faculty members and trainees and require faculty to relinquish any career-influencing roles in romantic relationships that do form. Sabatini resigned from the Whitehead Institute in August 2021—at the same time that he was fired by HHMI—and resigned from MIT earlier this month after the university recommended that his tenure be revoked.

In the aftermath, Sabatini filed a defamation lawsuit against the Whitehead Institute, its director, and the woman with whom he had had the relationship (who is not being named by The Scientist because she is the alleged victim of sexual misconduct). The woman, in turn, filed a countersuit claiming that Sabatini had fostered a highly sexualized environment in his lab and that he otherwise crossed professional boundaries, culminating in him periodically pressuring her for sex between 2018 and 2020. Sabatini asserts that the relationship was consensual and that the woman retaliated after he ended it. Both suits are currently pending, as are independent filings by Sabatini compelling Hinkley Allen & Snyder to release documents pertaining to its investigation.

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In screenshots of an email sent by Grossman and Bar-Sagi to colleagues that was shared on Twitter, the two stated that “we are aware of an upcoming Science story, and while we provided that publication with a brief statement, we also gather that the story may contain a number of inaccuracies.” In a monthly email sent by Grossman to members of the medical school on April 21, which he titled “Civility Rules,” he decried so-called “cancel culture” without naming Sabatini. Speaking to The New York Times, Bar-Sagi also cast doubt on the conclusions of the Whitehead investigation, saying that “we are looking closely at Dr. Sabatini’s case because it is clear that many aspects of his departure from M.I.T. and the Whitehead Institute were never publicly scrutinized. Moreover, dozens of Dr. Sabatini’s peers and colleagues have shared with us views that are at odds with the investigation and its outcome.”
 
A subsequent investigation by a third-party law firm, Hinkley Allen & Snyder, revealed that Sabatini had failed to disclose a relationship with a colleague “over whom he held a career-influencing role,” according to an email to the MIT community about the outcome of the probe. The investigation found that Sabatini violated the institute's policies on sexual misconduct due to his relationship with a woman who was a graduate student in another lab at MIT before starting her own lab as a fellow at Whitehead in 2018. Those policies forbid sexual relationships between faculty members and trainees and require faculty to relinquish any career-influencing roles in romantic relationships that do form. Sabatini resigned from the Whitehead Institute in August 2021—at the same time that he was fired by HHMI—and resigned from MIT earlier this month after the university recommended that his tenure be revoked.

In the aftermath, Sabatini filed a defamation lawsuit against the Whitehead Institute, its director, and the woman with whom he had had the relationship (who is not being named by The Scientist because she is the alleged victim of sexual misconduct). The woman, in turn, filed a countersuit claiming that Sabatini had fostered a highly sexualized environment in his lab and that he otherwise crossed professional boundaries, culminating in him periodically pressuring her for sex between 2018 and 2020. Sabatini asserts that the relationship was consensual and that the woman retaliated after he ended it. Both suits are currently pending, as are independent filings by Sabatini compelling Hinkley Allen & Snyder to release documents pertaining to its investigation.

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In screenshots of an email sent by Grossman and Bar-Sagi to colleagues that was shared on Twitter, the two stated that “we are aware of an upcoming Science story, and while we provided that publication with a brief statement, we also gather that the story may contain a number of inaccuracies.” In a monthly email sent by Grossman to members of the medical school on April 21, which he titled “Civility Rules,” he decried so-called “cancel culture” without naming Sabatini. Speaking to The New York Times, Bar-Sagi also cast doubt on the conclusions of the Whitehead investigation, saying that “we are looking closely at Dr. Sabatini’s case because it is clear that many aspects of his departure from M.I.T. and the Whitehead Institute were never publicly scrutinized. Moreover, dozens of Dr. Sabatini’s peers and colleagues have shared with us views that are at odds with the investigation and its outcome.”

So a bit of he said, she said, after what sounds like a not very amicable end to a relationship between two colleagues, one of whom was more senior than the other.

Storm in a teacup?
 
If this is true he got what was coming
Sabatini had fostered a highly sexualized environment in his lab and that he otherwise crossed professional boundaries, culminating in him periodically pressuring her for sex between 2018 and 2020.


I also thought this was a bit damning- a successful product of his lab refusing to defend him even she had the option is anonymity:



Anyway NYU seems to be hinting at more favorable evidence too.
 


That has been a LONG time coming. I was never a fan of rumour and accusations being enough to convict people on social media. So if he did do these things, I hope the truth comes out finally and he gets proper punishment instead of just being called.a "paedo" on reddit every day.
 
This could have gone in a religion or even a nonce thread but probably best to leave here. Basically, the Ahmadi big boss (their living Pope) is involved in trying to suppress a woman reporting rape at the highest echelon of that cult.

This will lead to a huge MeToo, involving under age girls probably, over the next few years. Unfortunately this is how cults operate whatever their so called religious background.

https://www.religionobserver.com/re...use-incidents-revealed-this-time-from-canada/
 
I actually quite like his music, it's very easy listening. So this is a shame if true.
 
Report reveals details of Bill Murray’s ‘inappropriate’ on-set behavior

New report claims the actor straddled and kissed a younger female colleague on the set of Being Mortal, leading to suspension of production


Bill Murray has reportedly paid $100,000 to settle a complaint by a woman on a film set that he straddled her and kissed her through a mask, as his 1980s co-star Geena Davis also spoke out about his famously “difficult” behavior on set.

In April, Murray was accused of “inappropriate behavior” on the set of Being Mortal, an adaptation of the book by Atul Gawande and the directorial debut of comedian Aziz Ansari, which shut down production in April.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...ettlement-inappropriate-behavior-being-mortal
 
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...tor-o-yeong-su-charged-with-sexual-misconduct

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Squid Game actor O Yeong-su charged with sexual misconduct

South Korea’s prosecutor says 78-year-old is accused of improperly touching a woman’s body in 2017
 
how do you know the woman was 5? it doesn’t say anywhere in the article. @horsechoker is right, you seem to know an awful lot about it for an innocent man.
 
Yep.........To having healthy skepticism of 5 year old allegations of inappropriate touching. Unless there are witnesses...or a text trail...or the woman was a minor

Do you have any special insight into this case to tell that there isn't any of that? He's not being cancelled, he's being charged by the authorities. That's not healthy skepticism, that's talking out of your ass.

It doesn't mean he definitely did it, but nor does it warrant people immediately jumping to say that they don't take it seriously. You should take it seriously.
 
Yep.........To having healthy skepticism of 5 year old allegations of inappropriate touching. Unless there are witnesses...or a text trail...or the woman was a minor

People are asking you why you're not taking the South Korean police seriously, which is an interesting question of course, but I'm wondering why you take minors seriously when you don't take women or the police seriously?
 
Can you get charged on just an allegation?

Depends on the laws of country, but in some places, yes you can. A complaining witness can and often is considered evidence in itself. Domestic abuse cases for example, there is often no other evidence or witnesses. So the CPS judges the complaining witness and goes ahead with the charge depending on how convincing the witness is.