Its incredible just how powerful white and rich people are in Western countries so much so that actresses like Jolie and Paltrow don't speak out against them for the fear of repurcusions.
Celebrity Allegations, #MeToo etc
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Clinton - and Obama, to be fair here - do have connections to Weinstein, though. He's raised millions of dollars for the pair of them, both directly and indirectly.
It's disgusting. It truly is.
I agree to be honest. But to be fair there are a lot of people directly connected to Weinstein. I think they have to comment or else the "They're morally bankrupt!" crew will carry on criticising.
It really does show the power that Weinstein had, kind of remarkable but it shows how he has gotten away with it for so long.
On Clinton finally criticising Weinstein, good for her. I thought she might try and hire him as an advisor.
All that was needed was for her to release that same statement a few days ago and it wouldn't have become a news story.
Yep, read that article before.
I'm not sure that gives them an obligation to comment on the latest news because otherwise, the notion that they condone his alleged actions has substance. The times we live in though.
Late night hosts are comedians. Clinton put out a statement today sharply criticizing him, even though he raised money for her. She had a long alliance with Donald Trump.
As for your last line, isn't it true for everyone? I just don't see why you go on rambling about 'liberals'. Everybody is up for criticism, whether it's Obama, Clinton, Sanders or Trump.
Add Kate Winslet to that list.
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/kate-winslet-harvey-weinstein-reaction-reader-1201885465/
Meh, I don't think her being a few days late is that big a story. She's put out a statement now and the party has given his money away.
More damning is the silence from powerful men in Hollywood like Tarantino and David O'Russell who have worked with him multiple times. Michael Moore is currently working with him on a Trump documentary and has remained silent too. Then there's a story of how Russell Crowe and Matt Damon helped sink a negative story on Weinstein; neither have confirmed or denied that either.
The biggest male actor I've seen comment is Clooney; still waiting for the rest of 'em.
Has he\she even mentioned 'liberals' once in this thread?
Bit different that. She's just speaking out against him. Jolie and Paltrow actually faced abuse/harassment.
And it doesn't help that Winslet's next project is a Woody Allen film
Bit different that. She's just speaking out against him. Jolie and Paltrow actually faced abuse/harassment.
And it doesn't help that Winslet's next project is a Woody Allen film
She has also worked with Polanski
You are right, I have confused Will Absolute with Buchan.
He's done plenty for them funding-wise but presuming they haven't known of anything he's done beforehand they're not particularly responsible or at fault for that. Any statements would, of course, be welcomed considering the pedigree of Obama and Clinton but I'm not sure it's completely necessary. Due to his status he's probably mingled with most big names at some point.
You do have to wonder if the reason they're being quiet is because they also have skeletons hidden in their closets or if Weinstein knows some damaging stuff about them and they dont want to get on his bad side.
Listening to that New Yorker Magazine audio is just sickening. What a vile piece of waste that man is.
If this was an open secret in Hollywood then some people need to be charged as well.
If this was an open secret in Hollywood then some people need to be charged as well.
Sorry I know most people in this thread seem to be more worried about who has or hasn't responded to this but shouldn't the overriding concern be that he's going to get away with it? This guy is clearly sick and should either be in a mental institution or in jail, that audio was harrowing.
Surely that audio and the multiple testimonies should be enough to at least get to plead out?
There's just something so...desperate about it. Incredible to see such insecurity from a man with so much fame and power. A common theme among plenty of big names, by the looks of it, but still...
Part of me wonders if it's almost down to laziness among some. No doubt plenty of allegations fly around, some of them baseless and with little substance, and so some other powerful figures who aren't necessarily dodgy at all just tend to ignore them if they're only hearing rumours.
More on the Paltrow allegations, and Pitt confronting Weinstein.
The audio was gathered through an investigation that fizzled out because of the accuser's background that would make her an unreliable witness in court. Plus Weinstein came to an out of court agreement with her afterwards, so I doubt she will be able to testify.
Other testimonies come down to him vs her. If there was concrete evidence I think he'd be in jail by now.
Thing is a lot of these people comment and jump on the bandwagon for things unrelated to them, so they've made a rod for their own back. How can they continue to claim and lecture some sort of moral superiority to others if they turn a blind eye to this?
Anyone caught having smothered this story for over a decade deserves what they get - including (if true) the NY Times.
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That's no excuse. They all have publicists/PR firms so its not like they themselves have to make an effort when they release a statement.
Least surprising person to be accused of sexual assault. He looks like a very dodgy bloke.
Reading some stuff that suggests the DA may have been paid off in exchange for not bringing charges.
Which DA ? In LA ?
Its the Manhattan DA who was involved in the Ivanka/Don Jr story from a few days ago.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16418766/ivanka-trump-donald-jr-indictment
Ahh right. Forgot about that.
Of course lost in all of this is the hillarious handbags between Ivana and Melania.
DA Vance needs removing from office and put in jail.
This was the timeline for the Ivanka/Don Jr investigation which was shelved after he overruled his own prosecutors.
Then this is released regarding Vance and a donation from Weintein's lawyer.
This was the timeline for the Ivanka/Don Jr investigation which was shelved after he overruled his own prosecutors.
- In January 2012, Kasowitz, Trump Sr.’s personal lawyer, donated $25,000 to Vance’s reelection campaign.
- Then in May 2012, Kasowitz met Vance to ask him to drop the investigation. (Vance returned his donation before the meeting.)
- In August 2012, Vance told his subordinates to drop the case. (“I did not at the time believe beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime had been committed,” he told the New Yorker team.)
- In September 2012, Kasowitz planned a fundraiser for Vance, which was held a few months later and raised tens of thousands of dollars for him.
Then this is released regarding Vance and a donation from Weintein's lawyer.
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Wrong thread?
Aside from being a complete and utter scumbag, I'm often stunned by how little shame these creeps have.
Back in my days of asking girls out or attempting to chat them up, the first hint of rejection and I was gone! The idea of pushing and begging a girl who isn't interested or worse still, is totally repulsed by you, is so far from my idea of a good time I can't even process it.
Oh definitely not an excuse, just the reason why I suspect it happens. No doubt a lot of rumours and allegations fly around Hollywood and most big names choose to ignore them.
It's not so much the liberal community's reaction now, although the fact that so many wait to jump on the condemnation bandwagon until the guy is dead in the water, and become a safe target, does them no particular credit, but their past history of embracing such a known scumbag for the sake of personal gain. It makes a mockery of their moral pretensions.
I don't think that's a particularly "liberal" problem - the same happens every time a God-fearing conservative gets caught doing similar. People wax sanctimonious and claim they had no idea but we know that's not true.
For me, this speaks more to failures as humans in agreeing on right and wrong, rather than being an issue of politics. But it never gets played that way anymore.
No fecking way. Between the NY state attorney general and the Southern District, a bribe wouldn't have gone unnoticed.