But 3x worse so maybe it evens out
Casemiro | United Player
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Agreed. Fred is a much better partner for Casemiro than McT.
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Mainly those that rely on skill and ability on the ball. No those that rely more on physicality or mobility.
KDB is 31, so is Thiago. Fernandinho was 31 when Pep joined city.
Eriksen made one mistake last game which costed a goal, but lets not start the narrative that he cant play it out under pressure.
Last game was possibly a one off where he was thrown into a position he had barely played in his career. He’s overall good at first touches, passing without dwelling on the ball, all the attributes needed to play it out under pressure.
If this goes through, would be a great coup and may have a better short term impact than De Jong. It would plug the huge chasm we have in the midfield and an instant upgrade on McT. Would be great if we can get both though.
Hey there!
I’m a Real fan and I just signed up because I wanted to congratulate you about this signing.
Casemiro is not 2nd string, he is the 1st one without any kind of doubt. Our Manager, Ancelotti, is worried, even with Tchouameni, not just because the player we are losing, but the person
Don’t worry about his age, he is in his prime, and he is very wary about his physical condition. At least he has 4-5 year as a top player.
You are not just signing a midfielder, you are signing the best one. He is a fecking monster. And aside from other Brazilian football players, he is very humble and a one of the “captains” we had, doing an awesome job with our Brazilian players teaching them what Real Madrid means (Vinicius, Rodrygo, Militao) and supporting them in every way in order to make them improve.
I can only wish him the best of the lucks and let you know that you just have gain another MU fan, can not wait to see him playing in your team.
Three serial UCL winners being captained by Harry Maguire will be the go to "fact that doesn't sound true but is" in ten years.
Surreal.
Surreal.
De Gea made a massive mistake that Eriksen couldn't fix.
De Bruyne is 31. Let's stay away from him too when he's available for €60m.
Don't get me wrong, I share the incredible frustration of people that the club ditched a vision of building something for the long haul so quickly, especially after last summer's Ronaldo and Varane haul proved to be so problematic. That they can't build for a more sustained competitive future and keep falling into short term fixes is so damn annoying, while other clubs hoover up young talent.
But hey, here we are. Again.
Yeah, i kind of feel the same. Good player for a position we need strenghtening in. But honestly, how often do these signings work out the way we all hope for?
Varane and Ronaldo made lots of sense last year right? Top players and proven winners, will definetely lift the team to new heights… Zlatan, Alexis, Schweinsteiger, Di Maria Mata etc. Players that are already well established and already stars just rarely work out for us or any club to be honest. Torres and Shevchenko to Chelsea comes to mind as well. RvP is the obvious exception and we only really got one good year out of him. Do hope Casemiro is yet another exception.
To be fair if everything goes well, next year if I have to target a belgian CM it will be Matazo not De Bruyne.
A Gary Neville barely able to walk anymore captained a United side with VDS, Rio, Vidic, Scholes, Giggs, Carrick, Ronaldo and Rooney. It means feck all
Horrible signing. A 30 year old who is on premium wages on a 5 year contract. We never learn from past mistakes. Brazilians also tend not to age well in their playing years in their 30s. Any 30 year old should be given a max 3 year contract.
Yes, it is very easy to attract top tier players when you are playing in league 1
To be fair Neville had a long career at the very highest level unlike Maguire. Ultimately you are right though.
Significantly more injuries too.
Four years. At least get your facts straight before ranting
No white text?
Give it a rest.
It doesn't fit the narrative.
Fernandinho. And it's 4+1.
If there's any mercy left for us, then Casemiro will be handed the armband off the plane, before his medical
At RM Casemiro is clearly the defensive man on the midfield who gives the ball as quickly as possible to Modric and Kroos, the ones with creative qualities. 2 players are needed to think offensive before him. Eriksen will probably be the first and Fernandes the second. I think both are not good enough, especially Fernandes. Ziyech and De Jong would be perfect, but that will not happen. Both Fernandes, Ziyech and Eriksen are to weak defensively and Fernandes and Eriksen to weak attacking. If de Jong does not come, a creative midfielder who can actually defend is still required.
Casemiro isn't going to singlehandedly turn up into a title challenging team. But he will provide an significant option in DM. He might be a bit older, but he's most importantly he is good, and better than Rabiot (and he probably still will be at age 35)
I don't see a clear drop in his level yet either. Still performing in the CL final to a high standard.
I don't see a clear drop in his level yet either. Still performing in the CL final to a high standard.
How dare you talk with such sense, didn't you get the memo about Redcafe when you signed up?
Yeah, I smell BS.
What are objectively sound benchmark? Scoring X goals? Reaching top 4? Surviving Relegation? He's a DM which can be hard to objectively assess his performance.
And we definitely not getting top 4, so good luck selling that.
I like you a lot more than the Barca fans.
Yeah, I see what you mean
Several weeks ago and panic buying don't go together. Whatever the situation is, I will stay positive and hope this works out for us.We always needed a player like this anyway, regardless of De Jong or a similar type player. Hopefully this is the beginning of some stability in the middle for us.
Yeah you can see why he was made captain, but it had next to no effect on the side that was playing.
It's a pet peeve of mine, the captain's armband is just that, a piece of cloth. Lahm captained the Germany side, but I think we can all agree Schweinsteiger was the leader making them walk over glass. You need those kind of leaders, which we may be lacking, but it's completely irrelevant wether they wear the armband or not. Same goes for playing your captain every game. Playing Maguire every match is the issue, not him wearing a piece of cloth
We have a terrible midfield who has been screaming out for a defensive midfielder for a very long time, and we have a real lack of leadership on the pitch. Casemiro is a world class defensive midfielder who is a dominant presence on the pitch and a leader with a great mentality. If you throw youngsters in there they will be dragged down by the shite mentality of some of the players currently there. A youngster expects, and should expect, to be guided by his older team-mates and not be responsible for taking a leadership position on the pitch. We need leaders on the pitch and players of significant quality. Casemiro checks all of those boxes. He has the merits, ability, the reputation and the presence to demand respect from every single one of our players - including Ronaldo. Heck he's captain material from day one.
He's not some 34 year old Busquets who was one of the best 4 years ago, he's a 30 year old who is the best right now. Real Madrid fans are genuinely anxious about the team with him leaving, none of them wants him to go - the discussion mostly revolves around him having the right to test himself in the Premier League after having provided them with so much success. He enables us to do exactly what you want us to do, start bringing in youngsters who can gradually take on key positions - without putting the pressure of leading this team on them. Roy Keane often speaks about how we need a player to take the game by the scruff of the neck, someone who can put a tackle in, take charge - take a bit of a revenge when opposition get too agressive. That is what Casemiro does.
Honestly, I can't wait to see him play for us. Never in a million years thought we had this kind of pull still.
Caicedo will most mote than £40m. Brighton don't need the money after selling Cucurella and Bissouma
Granted motivation may be a problem with Casemiro but in July when asked where he'd want to play if he left Spain he said the PL on record so every chance he relishes a new challenge
How did the resale value help us with AWB whom we can't sell above £10m? Young players flopping are equally as risky as older players. We've not had an out out DM in years and our midfield is pathetic I'll take my chances with proven quality for here and now not for 10yrs.
I don't understand this train of thought. So because ETH has a vision of where he wants the team to be in a few years, he should ignore anyone who can help the team right now, and for the next few years as we rebuild??
Everyone on here has been crying out for a DM for literally years. The McFred partnership only came into existence because we didn't have someone who could play the DM role – so we needed to use two players to achieve something close to this. Having a dedicated, capable, world class DM means that we can deploy a more balance midfield –something that can only help our possession and overall style of play.
I'm sure he regrets this now. This lot are resistant to progressive coaching.
Eventhough we might be paying over the odd for him but we need to rescue our season now. He is a WC player and the probablity of being a flop is lower. We can't take any chances now with unproven younger players. Most fans can't tolerate another performance like last week.
And T Silva
Eriksen isn't particularly great at playing in his own half either. He loses the ball quite a lot, he did it a few times in pre-season and he did for Brentford last season too.
You're right about the position though. He should never be played as the deepest midfielder and hopefully that won't happen again now.
was just saying exactly this to my mates.Too old, too small, too young, too expensive, too slow, too inexperienced, too unmotivated, too greedy, too racist.
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