Wants a captain?
Captaincy…
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Wants a captain?
Casillas?
It was a mistake to give a new player the armband, especially one with that transfer fee hanging over his head. I don't think we're selling Maguire anytime soon but sparing Maguire's feelings is not more important than getting this squad to play together properly. I personally think being captain should be a lot more ceremonial and less duty bound, with the captain doing the coin toss and then fecking off basically. It's when the captain thinks he's the spokesman and the boss and the cheerleader that things go awry. ETH could do like that England world cup team that had 3 captains in it, and just rotate the band through a small group of senior players: Maguire, DeGea, Shaw, Ronaldo. I think that would relieve the weight of wearing the band as well as improve morale in the squad, and whichever player wore it on the day would feel a boost of pride. It's not Captain United but United captain.
He shouldnt be allowing the players to pick a captain. and I agree with making De Jong captain. This would show the players who is boss and wont be messed with. This letting the players choose smacks of what we are supposedly trying to move away from, player power.
I think it's telling that when I thought about who I would vote for United captaincy, I opened up the current squad list and thought... "Wow, there isn't a natural answer, never mind a healthy debate about it"
Personally I think this points to coughing up the big money for Declan Rice, and making him captain from day one. The lad puts in the effort and seems to be a great leader, he'd fill a huge gap in the team not just in terms of performance on the pitch. Well worth the money imo.
Fernandes is close, he puts in the effort but the moaning and blaming attitude loses me.
Ronaldo has the skill but (understandably) lacks the required effort, and he also hasn't always got the best attitude.
McTominay shows some leadership qualities but not ready to lead United, on his way potentially though.
Maguire is crumbling under mahoosive pressure, we fans need to give him a break, give him support and get the best we can out of him. Additional capitaincy pressure is not a good idea right now.
I don't know enough about De Jong's personality yet to make a decision on him.
Personally I think this points to coughing up the big money for Declan Rice, and making him captain from day one. The lad puts in the effort and seems to be a great leader, he'd fill a huge gap in the team not just in terms of performance on the pitch. Well worth the money imo.
Fernandes is close, he puts in the effort but the moaning and blaming attitude loses me.
Ronaldo has the skill but (understandably) lacks the required effort, and he also hasn't always got the best attitude.
McTominay shows some leadership qualities but not ready to lead United, on his way potentially though.
Maguire is crumbling under mahoosive pressure, we fans need to give him a break, give him support and get the best we can out of him. Additional capitaincy pressure is not a good idea right now.
I don't know enough about De Jong's personality yet to make a decision on him.
According to my sources we are also considering fielding 11 players for each game too.
Is it in the rules that you must field a captain?
If it were up to me I would not assign a captain, I would tell the players it must be earnt in the coming season. Added incentive to perform.
If it were up to me I would not assign a captain, I would tell the players it must be earnt in the coming season. Added incentive to perform.
Has to be between De Gea or Ronaldo. Players who have won it before and knows what's required at the club. Maybe even Varane but he's a sick note and does not strike me as captain material.
Better off just going back to the Mourinho time, where the most senior player on the team started as captain
I agree with Goldbridge on this. CR7 should be Captain next season and then once he leaves give it to De JONg or a new signing
i don't like Goalies as Captains and plus CR7 has a serial winner mentality which is what this club needs.
i don't like Goalies as Captains and plus CR7 has a serial winner mentality which is what this club needs.
If Harry Maguire stays as Manchester United Captain the dressing room will continue to be divided and split which means toxicity will lead to performances like last season because it's a dressing room dis-United that won't just go away because they had a break/holiday. It needs a resolution/solution and Ten Hag needs to fix to move forward.
Erik Ten Hag needs to sort the Captaincy issue out as one of his first priorities. To bring the dressing room together and fix team morale.
i hope Erik Ten Hag makes CR7 his Captain as it's the best choice for next season with his experience, trophy cabinet and winning mentality. Then maybe De Jong the year after.
a new manager normally chooses his own Captain. And especially on the continent (where Erik Ten Hag) that is usually the best player and most experienced. Which is CR7.
Erik Ten Hag needs to sort the Captaincy issue out as one of his first priorities. To bring the dressing room together and fix team morale.
i hope Erik Ten Hag makes CR7 his Captain as it's the best choice for next season with his experience, trophy cabinet and winning mentality. Then maybe De Jong the year after.
a new manager normally chooses his own Captain. And especially on the continent (where Erik Ten Hag) that is usually the best player and most experienced. Which is CR7.
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I generally think the importance of captaincy is overplayed but if it's an active source of friction in the dressing room then it gains significance. Though I think it reflects poorly on the players involved if that's the case.
Is Ronaldo going to sulk and cry every time he gets subbed...100%
Is Ronaldo going to jet off to Portugal if he is dropped...probably yes!
Hard to give him the armband really.
Is Ronaldo going to jet off to Portugal if he is dropped...probably yes!
Hard to give him the armband really.
Honestly, IF Ronaldo has actually divided the dressing room over the captaincy (the article isn't clear on it) then there is no way in Hell he deserves it.
This is one of the main issues I still have with Ronaldo being at the club. He is an exceptional professional and still a very good player but it's obvious to anyone that isn't a fanboy that this is largely driven by his ego. Ronaldo should not be able to throw a strop and get his own way out of fear of the reprisals that would come of it; the board must make it abundantly clear that his wishes are secondary to those of Erik ten Hag and his coaching staff.
The Portuguese-speaking contingent has ruined the dressing room.
I mean it will annoy the shit out of a load of people on here but it's pretty damn obvious which member of the Portuguese contingent is primarily responsible for ruining the dressing room. The atmosphere was seemingly amiable up until a certain number seven arrived.
Maguire all the way. Hopefully, somewhere else.
In all seriousness, I think the club is setting the stage for Ronaldo's exit.
In all seriousness, I think the club is setting the stage for Ronaldo's exit.
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Quite sure there were a bunch of reports of dressing room 'cliques' long before he returned last summer...
The English one in particular have been joked about quite a bit on here
Considering that there was an alleged quote from a dressing room member proudly saying just how far United had progressed in two years (zero trophies and miles behind a title challenge) you'd think it would have done them good to see some real winners like Varane and Ronaldo enter the dressing room and take us to the next level but sadly it didn't.
As i've said before i'm hopeful Maguire's form will pick up if he's relieved of the captaincy. I think he's a good defender but the price tag and the captaincy pressure has got to him I think.
There may have been cliques but the dressing room atmosphere only seems to have turned toxic this season.
It needs to be Ronaldo... he is the most respected experienced player we have.
One of my favorite active players, but he's not a captain.
Though it would give him an excuse to constantly moan at the ref. Not that he needs it.
If there is friction between Maguire and Ronaldo cliques then it could easily be someone like De Gea who ends up being captain, just to dampen that tension. Particularly given the players just voted DDG as their POTY, so presumably he currently carries a base level of respect from his teammates.
Not be surprised if it’s FdJ if we get him. Another carrot to get him behind the ‘project’.
If you aren't fussed about the the role of a Captain on the pitch, then it could be anyone.
If you think that it is an important role, then its a player who is a leader and frankly, has to inspire the others to keep theirs heads up, push harder, and do what's needed for the win. There is only one player in the squad, and he's also arguably the GOAT.
If you think that it is an important role, then its a player who is a leader and frankly, has to inspire the others to keep theirs heads up, push harder, and do what's needed for the win. There is only one player in the squad, and he's also arguably the GOAT.
Yeah the guy whose agent is offering him to clubs around Europe. Great choice for captain
You believe that shit do you? It can only really be Ronaldo, De Goat or Bruno. If Varane has acclimatised to the PL then he's in with a shout too.
Unpopular opinion time, had we not panicked and signed Ronaldo, we would have easily finished top 4, squad harmony would have been better and Ole would still be our manager.
That being said, with Ole, we're never going to win the league so I'm glad he's gone. I just don't see how we can make Ronaldo captain if rumours of him being involved in a rift about the captaincy.
That being said, with Ole, we're never going to win the league so I'm glad he's gone. I just don't see how we can make Ronaldo captain if rumours of him being involved in a rift about the captaincy.
I want to know why the team started the downfall since the young boy game. If CR7 is the one asking for captaincy and divided the squad, I will be more than angry. by now, all about it still sounds like crap rumor.
Give it to the most senior player (de Gea if you’re going by United appearances, Ronaldo if you’re going by career appearances).
This is not an unpopular opinion. Many have thought about it.
I agree give it to De Gea. Guaranteed starter, senior player and passionate about the club. Can’t see him getting involved in divides and probably has the respect of everyone in the dressing room as a person.
Has got to be Big Dave.
I'm sure De Gea would be an awful captain but it's not a bad shout as a diplomatic act during a transitional szn.
I suspect our biggest, and most understandable, problem is certain players not respecting Maguire. De Gea would at least command some respect.
I suspect our biggest, and most understandable, problem is certain players not respecting Maguire. De Gea would at least command some respect.
A general observation on the pitch is that the Portuguese speaking group give off the impression that they are better than the rest of the team. You see them often congregating on the pitch to talk about what should be done to impact the game. Without Ronaldo, that group wouldn't have a drop of influence outside of Bruno.
Ronaldo coming in has definitely affected the vibe and dynamic of the dressing room. Now this has its benefits such as seeing the winners mentality right in front of you but I think this team needed a leader of the Ibra mode rather than the Ronaldo type.
Stop reading the news... Sometimes we have to use our own logic, no other club can afford his wages right now.