Captaincy…

Ten Hag on the captaincy
"Harry Maguire is the captain. He's an established captain, he's achieved a lot of success, so I don't doubt this issue."
 
It was never gonna be anyone else. More trouble than it's worth, media would have manufactured a shitstorm.
 
This was the smart choice. No other obvious options and he anyway hasn't spent enough time with the squad to judge either way.
 
Why do none of the thickos who follow Goldbridge, or even some of you lot here, not understand that ten Hag has to work with the players he has for the time being? He can't buy 10 players in one summer.

If you become a senior manager at a new company, you don't immediately fire your team leader etc. You need to get people on board. There is no better way than showing a desire to work with and improve current staff.

It could well be that Maguire wouldn't be ten Hag's first choice in a vacuum. In fact I'm sure he isn't. But it is the smart choice for the time being.
 
It's impossible to say what the right thing to do with the captaincy is without actually knowing the dressing room dynamics, because that's the only regard in which it really matters. ETH is better placed than us to know so if he's happy to stick with Maguire then I couldn't care any less.
 
Either means that Martinez isn't joining, or Maguire will naturally lose his captaincy simply by lack of playing time. Either way it's clear to me from last season that Maguire isn't captain material. Then again no one else is.
 
Pronewbie said:
Either means that Martinez isn't joining, or Maguire will naturally lose his captaincy simply by lack of playing time. Either way it's clear to me from last season that Maguire isn't captain material. Then again no one else is.
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I think this is more likely, just because he’s captain it doesn’t mean he’s guaranteed to start. I’d like to think ETH is more shrewd than that.
 
Pronewbie said:
Either means that Martinez isn't joining, or Maguire will naturally lose his captaincy simply by lack of playing time. Either way it's clear to me from last season that Maguire isn't captain material. Then again no one else is.
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I love these sorts of posts.

They make it seem like they are the ones taking training, talking to these players to know who is and isn't captaincy material.

Its quite clear that Ole thought he was a leader so had him as captain, it is also clear that Southgate thinks he is a leader for England.

Now ETH giving him captaincy.

Hmm professionals must not know anything.
 
sullydnl said:
It's impossible to say what the right thing to do with the captaincy is without actually knowing the dressing room dynamics, because that's the only regard in which it really matters. ETH is better placed than us to know so if he's happy to stick with Maguire then I couldn't care any less.
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Yep.

Too early for him to start dissolving player dynamics.

Keep the boat steady for as long as possible and make small changes in course.

I'm pretty confident that Harry won't be a starting player in a couple of months, let alone the captain.
 
altodevil said:
Why do none of the thickos who follow Goldbridge, or even some of you lot here, not understand that ten Hag has to work with the players he has for the time being? He can't buy 10 players in one summer.
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what is this recent obsession on the caf with Goldbridge? He gets mentioned in every thread, usually by people accusing others of being one of his followers. It seems to be his detractors that make him more relevant than he would be otherwise.
 
It's the sensible choice. Taking the captaincy off him would probably demoralise Maguire and it's not like there are any realistic alternatives right now.
 
Nero said:
He's a coach talking positively about one of his players. He's not gonna call him an underachieving waste of space.
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Of course not. But saying he’s achieved a lot of success when the whole world knows that he hasn’t, isn’t the most credible way to “talk positively” about him. He could just say that Maguire has a lot of qualities and he can achieve more with those qualities.
 
OL29 said:
what is this recent obsession on the caf with Goldbridge? He gets mentioned in every thread, usually by people accusing others of being one of his followers. It seems to be his detractors that make him more relevant than he would be otherwise.
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Because its all over socials, he is an absolute tool. He feeds fans negativity and narratives.
 
romufc said:
Because its all over socials, he is an absolute tool. He feeds fans negativity and narratives.
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Plus his platform seems to have increased of late with him now being given airtime on Talksport.
 
JB7 said:
Plus his platform seems to have increased of late with him now being given airtime on Talksport.
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New season, new manager, same narratives.

Apparently the club decide who plays, who's captain when it doesnt suit his views.

If the coach does something that doesn't suit his narrative, the coach is making decisions and is hard.

Like Maguire, I went to see his tweet and he has lost his shit.
 
Can we call out the journos who wrote fake stories now that we know they are fake? These idiots have no accountability. They get all the fans all riled up for months and months with nothing to back it up
 
With Ronaldo's recent antics this is the only possible decision. I still have a very hard time seing Maguire succeed in a Ten Hag system, but if he proves me wrong thats fantastic.
Either way this is the right choice with the situation as it is.
 
This is a not so good decision he's made, I suspect the club has forced this on him?
 
izak said:
This is a not so good decision he's made, I suspect the club has forced this on him?
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Who should he have made captain? Maybe he doesn't see his captain in the current squad at the moment, so why change from Maguire to someone else?
 
Pronewbie said:
Either means that Martinez isn't joining, or Maguire will naturally lose his captaincy simply by lack of playing time. Either way it's clear to me from last season that Maguire isn't captain material. Then again no one else is.
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Yeah those are the only two possible reasons. How about maybe the captain (who has some obvious attributes that Martinez doesn't) will play alongside a new signing.
 
Maguire is the captain because according to ETH he had achieved a lot of success
 
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