Bundesliga 2016/17

It's a Hoffenheim tactic to try and deliberately get players sent off.

I was at their match last week in Frankfurt. A minor melee started (with Wagner as it usually does). . .After handbags at dawn between players from both Eintracht & Hoffenheim, the referee (Dankert) started talking to the linesman as if something serious occurred. Two yellows were issued, and then (out of nowhere), a straight red was issued to Timothy Chandler. Replays basically showed that Chandler got himself involved. . . . as a PEACEMAKER, placing his arm across Wagner to move him away from the fracas he caused.

It was a complete joke of a sending off, and so typical of Bundesliga refereeing.

Ruined the last ten minutes of the match.
 
Ousmane's got that trait where he plays very well when he's angry. Love it. You could see it since his Rennes days.
 
Ousmane injured. I'm sure he's also exhausted not only after this match but also the whole first half of the season at his age and his playing time. He should sit out the midweek game (if Dortmund can afford to do that) and recuperate during the winter break.
 
Commentators didn't make much of Reus sending off. Was a bad decision .. He was being grabbed.
 
yes, but almost impossible to see for the ref.

I don't blame the ref. Just saying the commentators just ignored it and we're talking about how tough it is for a attacker trying to defend and how he didn't know what he was doing when it wasn't his fault.
 
I didn't even know about Dortmund's place in the table, thought they were up there as usual.

Is Tuchel a bit overrated? He used to be heavily hyped a while back.

Edit: Kevin Vogt is the most German looking person in the history of man.
 
I didn't even know about Dortmund's place in the table, thought they were up there as usual.

Is Tuchel a bit overrated? He used to be heavily hyped a while back.

Same thing was asked couple of weeks ago. IMO it makes no sense to call a coach like Tuchel 'overrated'. I don't know how high exactly some people go around rating him but he is without a doubt an excellent coach.
BVB play breathtaking football, the players are prospering as individuals, you can see a coaching handwriting on a very, very high level. Tbh surely some of the best football played anywhere.
Not sure what else you can want. Except maybe he's not yet proven to be a 'winner', whatever that means.

Don't forget that squad isn't experienced at all, and it isn't stacked in midfield and defense either.
 
Great moral, decent result, good game for neutral viewer, madderning for a supporter.
 
Did somebody mention how unfair it is that Hoffenheim has just a revenue of 128m EUR and Dortmund one of 285m EUR... :cool::D
 
Did somebody mention how unfair it is that Hoffenheim has just a revenue of 128m EUR and Dortmund one of 285m EUR... :cool::D

No, because there is no need to drag these dick measuring contests out of their threads and into others.
 
Dembele seriously has BPITW potential, I can't think of any attacking talent near his level.

Dortmund need to grow a pair now and push forward. They have the midfield and attacking talent to be the best team in the world. Dortmund can easily raise tickets by 10€ per ticket, which makes an additional revenue of €24-30M annually. New TV deal national. New CL money. Pulisic as the American sponsorship factor. Dembele as the BPITW sponsorship factor. Dortmund would be cowards to not push forward from here and try to become a superpower. They have done the hard part actually. Now it´s only about finding a goalie (Horn for €10M) and another central defender. The rest is just about retaining their core.
 
Dortmund need to grow a pair now and push forward. They have the midfield and attacking talent to be the best team in the world. Dortmund can easily raise tickets by 10€ per ticket, which makes an additional revenue of €24-30M annually. New TV deal national. New CL money. Pulisic as the American sponsorship factor. Dembele as the BPITW sponsorship factor. Dortmund would be cowards to not push forward from here and try to become a superpower. They have done the hard part actually. Now it´s only about finding a goalie (Horn for €10M) and another central defender. The rest is just about retaining their core.

We could raise it even more and still sell out games, we could also abolish the south standing and make it a full seater stadium, which would be even more lucrative. Thankfully that is not the ideology how the club is run, though. This has nothing to with not pushing forward either. This is sticking to principles and the core support, which stood behind the club even when it was on its knees. There is no need to abandon that.
 
I didn't even know about Dortmund's place in the table, thought they were up there as usual.

Is Tuchel a bit overrated? He used to be heavily hyped a while back.

Edit: Kevin Vogt is the most German looking person in the history of man.
Ho, he is not. He is a very good manager.
 
We could raise it even more and still sell out games, we could also abolish the south standing and make it a full seater stadium, which would be even more lucrative. Thankfully that is not the ideology how the club is run, though. This has nothing to with not pushing forward either. This is sticking to principles and the core support, which stood behind the club even when it was on its knees. There is no need to abandon that.

If Dortmund present the best product in the world, it should not be too much to ask fans in a rich COUNTRY to pay average ticket prices, by international comparison. It´s not the responsibility of the football clubs to "keep the peace" in Germany by selling far under market value. Instead the fight should be taken, where it really needs to take place. If people were being paid fair wages and lower taxes, they could easily afford those tickets, too. Temporary employment agencies are as big a cancer to German society as guns are to America.
 
If Dortmund present the best product in the world, it should not be too much to ask fans in a rich COUNTRY to pay average ticket prices, by international comparison. It´s not the responsibility of the football clubs to "keep the peace" in Germany by selling far under market value. Instead the fight should be taken, where it really needs to take place. If people were being paid fair wages and lower taxes, they could easily afford those tickets, too. Temporary employment agencies are as big a cancer to German society as guns are to America.

You clearly have no idea how football in Germany and the social consensus around it work.