Bundesliga 2016/17

[Balu]

According to kicker Schalke is close to signing Coke from Sevilla and Baba on loan from Chelsea. Baba would go back to be coached under Weinzierl, which should help him a lot. His move to Chelsea came way too early and the money Chelsea paid for him was totally insane.

Surprised that they are interested in Coke though. He's as far as I know a rightback, do they really need another one? They signed Caicara last season and still have Utchida. I guess Coke could play a right midfield role, but surely he's not attacking enough to replace Sane? Or is Emobolo supposed to do that?

They really lack wingers if Sane leaves. Maybe Weizierl wants to go for a 352ish formation as well? Not sure if Huntelaar stays another year, but if he does, maybe him and Embolo as the 2 forwards could work in a 442 or 352.

Something like:

If that midfield can get their act together and Nastasic can stay fit, that's a talented side. Don't think it's close to Leverkusen, let alone Bayern or Dortmund, but in theory an exciting team that should fight for that 4th place against Gladbach.

 

[NYC]

Chelsea doesn't have any leftback if baba leaves. Azp is a rb that was converted by Jose to LB and is terrible going forward.

No team will challenge Bayern in the next few seasons, similar to PSG in Ligue 1. Bayern second team would probably win the league as well.

GK

Rafinha-Martinez-Batsduber-Bernat
Kimmich
Sanches-X
Costa-X-Coman

Good chance they buy another AM/CF this summer still.... With Gotze leaving and Robbery injury proned.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

Chelsea doesn't have any leftback if baba leaves. Azp is a rb that was converted by Jose to LB and is terrible going forward.

No team will challenge Bayern in the next few seasons, similar to PSG in Ligue 1. Bayern second team would probably win the league as well.

GK

Rafinha-Martinez-Batsduber-Bernat
Kimmich
Sanches-X
Costa-X-Coman

Good chance they buy another AM/CF this summer still.... With Gotze leaving and Robbery injury proned.

Haven't they already said they will not replace Gotze.

 

[Blackwidow]

Haven't they already said they will not replace Gotze.

Bayern can play a couple of offensive mixes between a 4-4-2 and a 4-3-3 - the most offensive probably with 5 from Coman, Costa, Ribery, Robben, Müller and Lewandowski playing - to a settled 4-3-3 with Alonso, Vidal and Thiago in a 3-men-midfield. Even with the injury problems we had last season - Robben was out about all season, Ribery was out until February, Costa was out 6 weeks... Thiago, Coman, Kimmich (and Götze) should have gotten more playtime. Rode was not a factor - but for him comes Sanches who needs gametime for his development, too.

 

[Sphaero]

Chelsea doesn't have any leftback if baba leaves. Azp is a rb that was converted by Jose to LB and is terrible going forward.

No team will challenge Bayern in the next few seasons, similar to PSG in Ligue 1. Bayern second team would probably win the league as well.

GK

Rafinha-Martinez-Batsduber-Bernat
Kimmich
Sanches-X
Costa-X-Coman

Good chance they buy another AM/CF this summer still.... With Gotze leaving and Robbery injury proned.

So, a team with no proper striker and two (albeit highly talented) kids in midfield is supposed to win a European top league? Good ol´ hyperbole. This team would have nowhere enough balance and strength to play a 75 points season, which is what I expect to be at least necessary to win the league.

They have the strongest squad of the league, which is nothing new, but this season will probably be decided by the coaches. Bayern had after their extraordinary 2012/2013 season probably the best coach in the last decade when it comes to league performances. Ancelotti has at least in that regard not shown that he has reached that level of consistency. Maybe they won´t need that unlike last season as I can easily see us having trouble finding our rythm at the start taking the medium sized squad overhaul into account.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

 

[Harry190]

DFL warning to Bayern’s opponents
Bundesliga teams have been warned not to field weakened teams against Bayern Munich.

Several teams last season rotated their sides for their games against the champions, indicating that they would prepare to rest players for fixtures they had a better chance of winning.

German football federation (DFL) president Christian Seifert would not like to see the same again and is even considering ways to punish any club who give Bayern an easy ride.

“It destroys the integrity of the game,” he said.

“I would strongly push for consequences if something like that were to happen again. We’ve spoken to the clubs about it and I expect every sportsman to have the aim of playing every game the best way they possibly can.”

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20160731/football/Football-news.620553


Says it all.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

So, a team with no proper striker and two (albeit highly talented) kids in midfield is supposed to win a European top league? Good ol´ hyperbole. This team would have nowhere enough balance and strength to play a 75 points season, which is what I expect to be at least necessary to win the league.

They have the strongest squad of the league, which is nothing new, but this season will probably be decided by the coaches. Bayern had after their extraordinary 2012/2013 season probably the best coach in the last decade when it comes to league performances. Ancelotti has at least in that regard not shown that he has reached that level of consistency. Maybe they won´t need that unlike last season as I can easily see us having trouble finding our rythm at the start taking the medium sized squad overhaul into account.

I definitely think Bayern will slip up in the league under Ancelotti in either this season or the next.

 

[maze]

dortmund's best 22

i left out the likes of kuba, leitner, subotic and even ginter, as those are relevant players who are more or less likely to leave the club. what about that mor kid, you ask? i can't see him getting his share of minutes if he continues to struggle like he's been doing so far during the pre-season - which i see as not that big an issue, given his age and him being completely unproven at any higher level. let's see.

 

[GhastlyHun]

dortmund's best 22

i left out the likes of kuba, leitner, subotic and even ginter, as those are relevant players who are more or less likely to leave the club. what about that mor kid, you ask? i can't see him getting his share of minutes if he continues to struggle like he's been doing so far during the pre-season - which i see as not that big an issue, given his age and him being completely unproven at any higher level. let's see.

Kuba off to Golfsburg, apparently.

I'm not too sure about their DM, most players there are a bit unexperienced, but all in all that's a dam fine squad.

 

[maze]

Kuba off to Golfsburg, apparently.

I'm not too sure about their DM, most players there are a bit unexperienced, but all in all that's a dam fine squad.

KUBA TO GOLFSBURG WHAAAT did i miss here?

oh and the DM is fine and not at all unexperienced!?

 

[GhastlyHun]

KUBA TO GOLFSBURG WHAAAT did i miss here?

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...57037/artikel_perfekt_kuba-wird-ein-wolf.html

Sorry

 

[maze]

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...57037/artikel_perfekt_kuba-wird-ein-wolf.html

Sorry

goddamit.

 

[GhastlyHun]

'Unexperienced' is maybe the wrong word for the DM players, given that many of them have played CL and all, but I think none of them is a true leader type (yet).

 

[maze]

'Unexperienced' is maybe the wrong word for the DM players, given that many of them have played CL and all, but I think none of them is a true leader type (yet).

i'd say sahin is indeed a leader type, yet he's been nowhere near his best for quite some time now, plus he's just too slow and his magnificent long balls won't be much of help against most (inferior) teams, so i can't see him in the regular 1st team - which would be required to actually gain a "leader" status imho. but then i think it's up to castro to step up his overall appearance even more. that guy has been oozing class recently, and i for one would love to see him take control in his hands.

 

[Sphaero]

'Unexperienced' is maybe the wrong word for the DM players, given that many of them have played CL and all, but I think none of them is a true leader type (yet).

Sahin has been part of the team´s player council and 3rd captain since the age of 21 until he left for Madrid and has rejoined the council when former captain Kehl retired. If Sahin would become a consistent starter again, he would probably be the most logical choice as captain, but given Weigl´s rapid development there is a big question mark behind it.

Castro has not been only one of the most consistent players in his last three years or so at Leverkusen, but also a clear leading figure in the dressing room. At Dortmund even after only one season, he already enjoys a very high standing inside the team and very important for the integration of several new players. I can see him taking charge in a lot of things this season.

Weigl has a lot of potential as lead player, especially due to his calm play style and confident personality, and Rode has always reminded e a lot of the beforementioned Kehl (both play style and personality), who has been IMO the second greatest captain in our club history.

 

[Adisa]

Had a dream that Dortmund won the league convincingly. Which was weird because, Dortmund were the furthest thing on my mind.

 

[Adisa]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20160731/football/Football-news.620553


Says it all.

Then coaches will just tell the players to take it easy.

 

[Loublaze]

Watched Bayern rip apart a woeful Inter Milan on Saturday in a preseason friendly. Alacantara totally bossed that midfield, and Green got a hatrick

 

[NYC]

So, a team with no proper striker and two (albeit highly talented) kids in midfield is supposed to win a European top league? Good ol´ hyperbole. This team would have nowhere enough balance and strength to play a 75 points season, which is what I expect to be at least necessary to win the league.

They have the strongest squad of the league, which is nothing new, but this season will probably be decided by the coaches. Bayern had after their extraordinary 2012/2013 season probably the best coach in the last decade when it comes to league performances. Ancelotti has at least in that regard not shown that he has reached that level of consistency. Maybe they won´t need that unlike last season as I can easily see us having trouble finding our rythm at the start taking the medium sized squad overhaul into account.

Last season, Bayern beat the bundesliga record of least amount of goals scored in history with a CB duo of Alaba and Kimmich, with Alonso protecting them. They also took 2 wingers that no one in Europe rated highly in COman and Costa and made them into European stars... Dortmund is nowhere near Bayern.... Gotze knew it, as did Lewandowski and Hummels...

Bayern is the same as PSG and Juventus. All 3 are just significantly better than everyone else in their league. Juventus probably has a chance of losing with the foreign investment Serie A is getting, but maybe not in the next few seasons.

 

[Sphaero]

Last season, Bayern beat the bundesliga record of least amount of goals scored in history with a CB duo of Alaba and Kimmich, with Alonso protecting them. They also took 2 wingers that no one in Europe rated highly in COman and Costa and made them into European stars... Dortmund is nowhere near Bayern.... Gotze knew it, as did Lewandowski and Hummels...

Bayern is the same as PSG and Juventus. All 3 are just significantly better than everyone else in their league. Juventus probably has a chance of losing with the foreign investment Serie A is getting, but maybe not in the next few seasons.

Kimmich played a grand total of 11 league games in central defense, quite a lot less than Boateng, you know, their world class CB. I would also say that arguably the best GK in the world had something to do with the low number of goals they conceeded.

Furthermore, no one rated Coman highly? A lot of people, including myself, were scratching their heads when Juve let Coman go to Bayern, especially for the conditions which were agreed on back then. Costa was more of an unknown, but I would not call either of them European stars. Coman is still a talent in my book and struggles with performance consistency at times and Costa´s Performances dipped quite a bit after his spectacular first season half.

Bayern has the stronger first team and squad than us, but I highly disagree with the opinion that their second team is stronger than our first one.

 

[do.ob]

That Bayern's second team would win the leauge claim is indeed quite ridiculous, especially since it's not even a full lineup that's being listed to support this claim.

 

[Xivon]

Bayern has the stronger first team and squad than us, but I highly disagree with the opinion that their second team is stronger than our first one.

I don't know about that. I agree with you that we have the stronger first team, but we still lack depth, especially in the striker, winger and CB position.

We can't trust Ribéry and Robben to stay healthy and, as you said, Coman is still young and bound to have a dip in his performances due to his age and inexperience. Thankfully Müller and Lewandowski are almost never injured, but if something would happen to them we have no one with similar abilities to replace them; and I hope Ancelotti doesn't deem Benko or Green good enough to be their back-ups as of yet, because they are not. We could play with one of Müller and Lewandowski, of course, but we can't take it for granted that we will have 2 wingers available to make it work.

The CB position looks fine right now, but still – Badstuber and Javi aren't known for staying healthy and we still don't know if Boateng will be fully fit when the season starts. Kimmich and Alaba aren't natural CBs and might not work in a system that is not Pep's positional game.

The lack of rumors and both Ancelotti and Rummenigge saying that we won't make any new signings really worries me.

 

[strongwalker]

So, a team with no proper striker and two (albeit highly talented) kids in midfield is supposed to win a European top league? Good ol´ hyperbole. This team would have nowhere enough balance and strength to play a 75 points season, which is what I expect to be at least necessary to win the league.

They have the strongest squad of the league, which is nothing new, but this season will probably be decided by the coaches. Bayern had after their extraordinary 2012/2013 season probably the best coach in the last decade when it comes to league performances. Ancelotti has at least in that regard not shown that he has reached that level of consistency. Maybe they won´t need that unlike last season as I can easily see us having trouble finding our rythm at the start taking the medium sized squad overhaul into account.

Last season was a strange one. Two teams almost without any blunder in 34 games. A bit to be expected from Bayern, with that squad and a coach who demanded (and got) 110% in any match, not really expected from a team in transition with a new coach like BVB - i do think what Tuchel achieved there is nothing short of amazing and should rank as high as Klopps 2 title seasons.
Bayern will dominate most of their league games, what will happen in those other matches that are on the edge will decide the league, if BVB can repeat their performance. Those nasty things, after a hot EC wednesday against an underdog, when the little things don't go your way - we (Bayern) still managed to scrap a dirty win from most of those under Pep, i wonder how these will go under Ancelotti.

Strange thing about Kuba. He is a fans favourite i understand, but somehow i don't think he really ever got the appreciation he deserved from the coaches. He is one of those players crucial for any team, rarely spectacular but thoroughly missed when not there.

 

[Sphaero]

Strange thing about Kuba. He is a fans favourite i understand, but somehow i don't think he really ever got the appreciation he deserved from the coaches. He is one of those players crucial for any team, rarely spectacular but thoroughly missed when not there.

To be honest, he wasn´t that for us in quite a long time. In terms of performances, he never truly recovered from his torn ACL in January 2014 and was plagued with more injuries ever since.

I would have loved to keep him around as squad Option, but he could expect only very little game time and wanted to play more consistently. I would have prefered not seeing him in the Bundesliga for another Club, but I expect at the end Dortmund did not want to stand in his way similar to how you guys handled the case Schweinsteiger.

 

[do.ob]

Kuba is a very likeable guy, but he simply hasn't performed since the 12/13 season and also struggled a lot with injuries.

 

[OutlawGER]

dortmund's best 22

i left out the likes of kuba, leitner, subotic and even ginter, as those are relevant players who are more or less likely to leave the club. what about that mor kid, you ask? i can't see him getting his share of minutes if he continues to struggle like he's been doing so far during the pre-season - which i see as not that big an issue, given his age and him being completely unproven at any higher level. let's see.

Very good squad which can compete everywhere. But i think the defense is a weakness.

 

[do.ob]

Very good squad which can compete everywhere. But i think the defense is a weakness.

Do you mean the entire defense? I think the FB positions are covered quite well. Piszczek and Schmelzer are experienced and defensively quite good, Durm and Guerreiro are two more attacking options and Passlack seems to be a quite promising talent. It's not stacked with world class, but most team's seem to fall off a bit here.
Rode/Weigl/Sahin and maybe Merino also seems like a decent lineup for the defensive CM position. The only question marks I really see are the CBs. Sokratis is a rock solid no nonsense defender, but his offensive contribution might turn out to be a Problem, Bartra is essentially wildcard to me and Bender looked like a very well rounded and tidy defender to me last season, but hasn't played enough on that position to fully judge him. Still I think that should easily be more than enough against everyone bar Bayern.
Also Toprak appears to be all but done for next summer, so they've already lined up an improvement there.

 

[Cristiano Lell]

CBs and creative CM are a problem in my opinion. Dortmund still should have some money to spend, and should still try to get someone. Tielemans?
Is Ginter really "likely to leave"? I find that hard to believe

On the other hand, Guerreiro might be a huge addition, to a position no less which was somewhat of a weak spot even in Kloppmund's prime.

 

[maze]

CBs and creative CM are a problem in my opinion. Dortmund still should have some money to spend, and should still try to get someone. Tielemans?
Is Ginter really "likely to leave"? I find that hard to believe

On the other hand, Guerreiro might be a huge addition, to a position no less which was somewhat of a weak spot even in Kloppmund's prime.

whether ginter is "more or less likely to leave" is a bit of a mystery right now, while i do think that he would like to move on - yet i doubt they'd let him go like that, given the fact that dortmund are a bit short on defenders. seems like tuchel isn't too big a fan of his, though. plus there were recent reports about him being in talks with hamburg, yet that is doubtful due to the questionable source - even it was in a local hamburg newspaper.

 

[Cristiano Lell]

whether ginter is "more or less likely to leave" is a bit of a mystery right now, while i do think that he would like to move on - yet i doubt they'd let him go like that, given the fact that dortmund are a bit short on defenders. seems like tuchel isn't too big a fan of his, though. plus there were recent reports about him being in talks with hamburg, yet that is doubtful due to the questionable source - even it was in a local hamburg newspaper.

What is your take on Ginter's perspective at BVB?
Far as I remember, he played quite some games last season, no? First as right back, later as CB.
Was he so bad that he warrants being sold? Was he just underwhelming? Does it not seem like he's improving? Genuine questions as I don't see full BVB games week after week.

Because in a situation like this, with Hummels gone, it seems on paper like a huge chance for Ginter, who after all was signed as the next big young CB thing in Germany; and it certainly doesn't seem like a good idea to get rid of another CB.
Of course, if Tuchel doesn't deem him good enough, it's best for him to change clubs - but surely then another defender must come in?
Or is just going to occupy the space in the squad to be filled with Toprak next summer.

 

[OutlawGER]

Do you mean the entire defense? I think the FB positions are covered quite well. Piszczek and Schmelzer are experienced and defensively quite good, Durm and Guerreiro are two more attacking options and Passlack seems to be a quite promising talent. It's not stacked with world class, but most team's seem to fall off a bit here.
Rode/Weigl/Sahin and maybe Merino also seems like a decent lineup for the defensive CM position. The only question marks I really see are the CBs. Sokratis is a rock solid no nonsense defender, but his offensive contribution might turn out to be a Problem, Bartra is essentially wildcard to me and Bender looked like a very well rounded and tidy defender to me last season, but hasn't played enough on that position to fully judge him. Still I think that should easily be more than enough against everyone bar Bayern.
Also Toprak appears to be all but done for next summer, so they've already lined up an improvement there.

I was mainly talking about the CBs and the GK. In the big games last season (especially against Bayern 1:5) Bürki was quite shocking. Sokratis is a warrior but other than that i think Dortmunds CBs all in all are quite average and make their squad a bit unbalanced compared with their strong offensive. And yeah the fullbacks are average too (can't judge Guerrero yet) but that problem has almost any other team bar Bayern.

But maybe thats something the board will work about next summer. If no offensive (star)player leaves they should have the money to invest into some quality CBs and maybe a quality GK.

And as someone else mentioned already, i think Dortmund could use another real playmaker with some quality for CM like Kovacic. But looking at their squad that is not a must have, at least not for this summer. A lot depends on Weigls development. If he keeps going like he did so far, there will be no problem at all (unless he wants to leave, lol).

 

[do.ob]

I was mainly talking about the CBs and the GK. In the big games last season (especially against Bayern 1:5) Bürki was quite shocking. Sokratis is a warrior but other than that i think Dortmunds CBs all in all are quite average and make their squad a bit unbalanced compared with their strong offensive. And yeah the fullbacks are average too (can't judge Guerrero yet) but that problem has almost any other team bar Bayern.

But maybe thats something the board will work about next summer. If no offensive (star)player leaves they should have the money to invest into some quality CBs and maybe a quality GK.

And as someone else mentioned already, i think Dortmund could use another real playmaker with some quality for CM like Kovacic. But looking at their squad that is not a must have, at least not for this summer. A lot depends on Weigls development. If he keeps going like he did so far, there will be no problem at all (unless he wants to leave, lol).

The CBs look mediocre for sure, but at the same time that's "the" position where you can get away with fielding players who are just solid without it hurting you too much, as long as they don't make a lot of mistakes their quality shouldn't be an issues except for a very few matches.
Bürki's debut season had many ups and downs, but imho he got better towards the end. I think it's ok to give him another chance in the upcoming season.

 

[maze]

What is your take on Ginter's perspective at BVB?
Far as I remember, he played quite some games last season, no? First as right back, later as CB.
Was he so bad that he warrants being sold? Was he just underwhelming? Does it not seem like he's improving? Genuine questions as I don't see full BVB games week after week.

Because in a situation like this, with Hummels gone, it seems on paper like a huge chance for Ginter, who after all was signed as the next big young CB thing in Germany; and it certainly doesn't seem like a good idea to get rid of another CB.
Of course, if Tuchel doesn't deem him good enough, it's best for him to change clubs - but surely then another defender must come in?
Or is just going to occupy the space in the squad to be filled with Toprak next summer.

well i'd say you pretty much answered your own question! ginter had an astonishing run during the 1st leg of last season as RB, but then tuchel dropped him as soon as piszczek became match-fit again. he was a starter in 21 matches over the whole season, though his stats dropped significantly. tuchel tried him as a DM after the winter-break, then he got a few matches as CB, but he couldn't live up to that either. all in all, he had a mediocre season, i'd say.

does that warrant to try to get rid of him though? no, imho.

 

[NYC]

Kimmich played a grand total of 11 league games in central defense, quite a lot less than Boateng, you know, their world class CB. I would also say that arguably the best GK in the world had something to do with the low number of goals they conceeded.

Furthermore, no one rated Coman highly? A lot of people, including myself, were scratching their heads when Juve let Coman go to Bayern, especially for the conditions which were agreed on back then. Costa was more of an unknown, but I would not call either of them European stars. Coman is still a talent in my book and struggles with performance consistency at times and Costa´s Performances dipped quite a bit after his spectacular first season half.

Bayern has the stronger first team and squad than us, but I highly disagree with the opinion that their second team is stronger than our first one.

Bayern has had a crippled squad for the past 3 seasons and still managed to win the league easily every year. This season, you guys were playing in Europa, not the Champs league and didn't win anything. Who does Dortmund have? An injury prone marco Reus? Auba that wants to leave? A 20 year old Weigl?

Your best player left your team in Gundogan and you lost 3 key players this season in Hummels, Gundogan and Mkit. You got 2 recent flops in Gotze and Schurrle and Rode who couldn't get any game time with Bayern. Let's see whoscored.com, the 3 highest rated players on dortmund were mkiht, gundogan and hummels.

Let's see bayern second team. For now, I will assume starting 11 to be Neuer, lahm, hummels, boateng, alaba, alonso, thiago, vidal, muller, robert and ribery.....

Second team or at least the other guys:

Starke/Ulriech

Rafinha-martinez-batsduber-bernat
Kimmich
Sanches-Costa
Robben-Green-Coman

Isn't really far fetch to say that Bayern couldn't win the league with that team.

 

[do.ob]

@NYC
You say feck Weigl, he's only 20 years old, then you post a team with a couple of kids in key positions (including Julian fecking Green) and say oh yeah they so gud they'd win the league.
Bayern have very good depth in their squad but you're massively exaggerating.

 

[GhastlyHun]

They should have posted the moment where Thiago uses his autograph card to cover the BVB-emblem

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20160731/football/Football-news.620553


Says it all.

I'm a bit late for the party, but still wanted to comment on that:

A lot of populist nonsense, that's all this statement is really. Resting players is simply a necessity over the course of 34 league games and +X in domestic and international cups, and happens all the time, not only against Bayern. One of the most notable examples was Dortmund against Schalke, where the BVB played without a lot of their most important players because of the upcoming Eurocup match against Pool. Therefore they only got a draw and failed to close the gap on Bayern in the race for the league title. Also Schalke-BVB is one of the most heated rivalries in german football, not playing your best team there is basically blasphemy. Just one of those examples which were far worse for football than Frankfurt or Darmstadt resting one or two players more or less against Bayern.
Plus, if resting players against Bayern will be punished, then more players will be rested in all other matches against different teams, while teams are forced to play their 'best' formation against Bayern always. How's that for distortion of competition, and who should even be the judge of what the best formation for each team is on a given matchday? The focus on Bayern in his statement tells you all you need to know about the soundness of that reasoning (or lack thereof).

 

[slig]

NYC is talking bullshit. Gündogan was our best player? for sure... . Auba wants to leave, clearly. A "i was never promising and show nothing all the years" Green in the front of a Buyern squad who could win the league . Rafinha, Bernat, Badstuber (who probably will stay fit for a few games just like the years before). YMMD.

To the posters with more knowledge: Ginter will stay i think, he is really versatile and young. We need him, and i expect heavy rotation in our squad, there wont be a first squad, more eventualy some players who will play slicly more than others, but in general we will need and play all of them. Even without Ginter our CB is really strong in my eyes. Sokratis is one of the best CB, and Bartra will be great for us. The playtime i saw them was really promising. Then you have Bender who is also one of the best CB in the league (but missing in the begining cause of the fecking mess called Olympia). Our Eurochampion Rapha will have a huge impact, think he will help us immidiately just like Bartra. Guys who called our CB "mediocre" have no clue. Its the best beside Buyerns and we not only got 2 decent CB we got deph, too. Its also a question how often we play with 2 CB and how often with 3 CB (thas another point why i think we really need Ginter). The main question is how we will play, and that will have an effect. Our squad is great, we used the incoming money for diversity and class and made a huge step in terms of deph, all with spending some between 5 till 10 Mio €. It all needs time especially for the young offensive guys (they really have to learn a lot) and for the systems to apply. If it works good i expect a save 2.th place. If its works not so great ,thinking of the begining of the season, we will finish 3. But after all, the squad is full of quality, and we as fans (and hopefully the opponents too) will struggle to predict any lineup in the season.

 

[Kant-ona]

Anyone playing the Kicker Managerspiel this season? I think we had some good debates about it last year (or did we have a special thread for that? If so, I am sorry to ask it here.)

The Managerspiel for the first Bundesliga will start this Friday, I think.

 

[GhastlyHun]

Anyone playing the Kicker Managerspiel this season? I think we had some good debates about it last year (or did we have a special thread for that? If so, I am sorry to ask it here.)

The Managerspiel for the first Bundesliga will start this Friday, I think.

I'm playing comunio with colleagues. My current squad:

Spoiler

I had one Dortmund player at the end of last season, now half of my team is dortmundized ^^