How many goalkeepers have Bremen signed in the last 2-3 years 
Bundesliga 2016/17
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Not sure if I'm happy about that. I only had a quick look, but from what I've seen:
- Friday and Monday games are on Eurosport's paytv channel, and a few Sunday games as well, probably the 3rd game when 3 teams play in the EL ? So I won't get to watch all games with my sky account anymore?
- Monday night 2. Bundesliga is also on Sky now, not on freetv anymore? I don't care, but my dad will be angry about that.
- amazon apparantly bid quite heavily on some of the packages but failed to get anything important (only internet radio?), they still pushed up the price though. Should be interesting if they'll be back for the next round.
- Didn't RTL try to get a piece of the freetv highlight shows? Looks like ARD and ZDF keep those and Sport1 kept the rights for Sunday morning highlights.
The numbers are great and make sure that we won't fall behind La Liga and Serie A. It's still obviously far away from the PL deal, but the jump is huge. I still wonder if it's a huge bubble that will burst soon though. Football fans should get frustrated that they most likely have to pay significantly more for sky despite seeing less football. Does anyone know what the Europsport paytv package costs?
How much of that will go to the 2nd division clubs? I think under the last deal it was 20% though that might be wrong.
The 18 Bundesliga clubs shared €707.9 million last season with Bayern receiving a little more than 10% (€71.8million). Assuming it's distributed the same way a €1.4bn deal would probably mean the Bundesliga clubs get €1.1bn per season, Bayern's share would be around €110million.
What exactly is the Pay TV version of Eurosport? Eurosport 2? Eurosport 360?
I've no clue.
Yeah, it's 20% so far. For next season the 2. Bundesliga club get 134m out of the 673m for domestic tv rights. I'm not sure how the international deals count in that regard and if the 2. Bundesliga also receives 20% from that pool.
Same, I've asked friends and they're clueless as well, especially as Eurosport 2 and 360 can be received via Sky right now which would make them outbidding Sky a bit pointless if they're going to show the Bundesliga there.
The newbie @sekularic just wrote me a PM that Eurosport is indeed already part of the sky HD package. If that's true, it just looks like a trick to get past the cartel law verdict that sky isn't allowed to buy all Bundesliga packages. In the end, they can still offer everything.
Hmm that makes sense but how come no newspaper has looked through that scheme yet? I mean that'd be a quite dubious deal, surely someone would've said something negativ by now?
Yeah, it's a bit odd. At least if the only way to watch Eurosport's paytv channels is through sky. But in the end Eurosport belongs to Disney if I'm not mistaken, so the rights actually aren't bought by sky.
A bit research on the internet brought me to the following table:
It looks as if every club received at least 2.5m from the international tv rights, but the majority of it is CL/EL money from the previous season and it isn't shared with the rest of the league, let alone the 2nd league. That's what explains the big gap between the teams playing in Europe and the rest. I guess all clubs can expect to almost double the domestic share and that's a huge deal for the smaller clubs who don't play in Europe.
A bit research on the internet brought me to the following table:
It looks as if every club received at least 2.5m from the international tv rights, but the majority of it is CL/EL money from the previous season and it isn't shared with the rest of the league, let alone the 2nd league. That's what explains the big gap between the teams playing in Europe and the rest. I guess all clubs can expect to almost double the domestic share and that's a huge deal for the smaller clubs who don't play in Europe.
The International rights are also expected to increase from €165m per season to more than €200m. To get a rough estimate of each teams earnings you could add 85% to the 'national' and 20% to the 'international' so Darmstadt would receive €40m, very impressive growth considering Bayern only got €50m in 14/15.
Other major European leagues look like this
La Liga - €1.3bn
Serie A - €940m
Ligue 1 - €467m
Premier League £1.6 billion
The 20 clubs in Ligue 1 will share around €600 million next season and the figure for the Premier League will over €3billion.
COULD be the eurosport-player thingy that allows you to watch eurosport 1+2 plus some other crap for a couple of bucks a month online.
It seems as if Eurosport is only part of the sky package if you use sat tv. If you have cable, you have to pay extra to get it through some other package. Which explains why I don't have it. Sky need to be really careful how they approach this and how they can make sure that all their customers get the same deal when they buy Bundesliga/Sport packages. It also seems to be possible that Eurosport leaves Sky completely and does their own thing.
Still a year to go until it becomes a problem, but I'll certainly look into it very closely before I extend my sky subscription.
WOW Sammer leaves Bayern Munich!!!
First Hörwick and now Sammer (He was ill in the last months)....that is a shock.
First Hörwick and now Sammer (He was ill in the last months)....that is a shock.
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Maybe they ask themselfs: "what the feck does this guy do the whole day?"
These are disconcerting news tbh.
Sammer's time at Bayern was immensely successful, and while everyone speculates just how big his role in creating this success has been, it's a glaring fact that with him in charge, a hell of a lot of good decisions were made.
He had serious health issues recently, and somehow I hope, as macabre as that sounds, that his stepping down is due to health concerns.
Well obviously I wouldn't wish bad health on Sammer but I certainly don't hope it's due to internal stuff like Hoeness returning and starting with pissing about his territory or insisting on payback for when Sammer called him out for talking bollocks about the treble publicly.
After his almost fateful intervention in the Hummels transfer, I get the feeling Hoeness is returning to the club like an Elephant into a porcelain store, and I hope I'm wrong.
Thank god we have Reschke, but this is really strange news.
Pretty sure that after his health problems he decided to take a step back for his own good.
So Bayern kick off at home to Bremen on a Friday night.
Dortmund have Hamburg away then Bayern at home in the first couple of weeks in November. Week 26-28 is Schalke away, Hamburg home then Bayern away. Ouch.
Dortmund have Hamburg away then Bayern at home in the first couple of weeks in November. Week 26-28 is Schalke away, Hamburg home then Bayern away. Ouch.
Well, Markus Hörwick is turning 60 soon and leaves Bayern after 33 years on his own wish. Taking things more slowly now.
In his own words, he's looking for what else you can do on a weekend afternoon.
With Sammer I rather suspect it's something concerning his health; if not, then I don't know what to make of it.
Edit: http://www.fcbayern.de/de/news/news...erlaesst-den-fc-bayern-auf-eigenen-wunsch.php
The official press release rather supports my feeling. Sammer is stepping down because the job is taking too much of his energy and time, and he currently is not interested in devoting himself that much to a club.
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http://www.fcbayern.de/en/news/news/2016/press-release-matthias-sammer-leaves-fc-bayern.php
Sounds like Sammer joined a cult or something lol.
Aynway, I'm still pretty puzzled about this but what can you do.
Pretty sure his competitive drive and football knowledge will be missed. I can't regard this as good news.
Well, Heinz Hörwick is turning 60 soon and leaves Bayern after 33 years on his own wish. Taking things more slowly now.
In his own words, he's looking for what else you can do on a weekend afternoon.
With Sammer I rather suspect it's something concerning his health; if not, then I don't know what to make of it.
Edit: http://www.fcbayern.de/de/news/news...erlaesst-den-fc-bayern-auf-eigenen-wunsch.php
The official press release rather supports my feeling. Sammer is stepping down because the job is taking too much of his energy and time, and he currently is not interested in devoting himself that much to a club.
The interesting thing about that press release is that he qualifies his statement by saying he's fully healthy again. I wonder if this is a situation where we'll see him take a brief sabbatical and then pick back up at another club. He's only 48...I'd be surprised if he was walking away for good.
Okay it's understandable that Hörwick looks for new adventures in his life and that Sammer is still not fit or still ill.......but that Hörwick & Sammer are both leaving the club in the space of a three days and one day before Ancelotti gives his first press conference is still wierd.Well, Heinz Hörwick is turning 60 soon and leaves Bayern after 33 years on his own wish. Taking things more slowly now.
In his own words, he's looking for what else you can do on a weekend afternoon.
With Sammer I rather suspect it's something concerning his health; if not, then I don't know what to make of it.
Edit: http://www.fcbayern.de/de/news/news...erlaesst-den-fc-bayern-auf-eigenen-wunsch.php
The official press release rather supports my feeling. Sammer is stepping down because the job is taking too much of his energy and time, and he currently is not interested in devoting himself that much to a club.
Only my opinion but Sammer's attack against Hoeness in March was at least one own goal.
Markus Hörwick...
Ooops, you're right
When you get your first Lederhose...
this need to be in the cringeworthy-threadLooks like dortmund will be selling Raffael Guerrero in a couple of years, he was brilliant during the euros, really talented player.
Next wednesday, 20.7., it's time for the first Carlo-Pep-encounter with their new clubs. 20.30 at the Allianz Arena, will be broadcast by ZDF in Germany.
I'm looking forward to it, if only to fill the present football void.
I'm looking forward to it, if only to fill the present football void.
So according to Kicker, there has been a breakthrough in negotations between the clubs and Schürrle to Dortmund is all but done now, for roughly €30m
So according to Kicker, there has been a breakthrough in negotations between the clubs and Schürrle to Dortmund is all but done now, for roughly €30m
He would be your record signing, right? I don't understand what Tuchel sees in him, I really don't.
Yes, that's what's most baffling. I mean if they signed him for like €20m or something, I'd say: ok, they paid a little extra for experience. But to pay this much for someone who clearly doesn't have the talent for a dominant side with ambitious goals is an enigma to me.
Especially when they already have not one but three wonderkids lined up for his position(s).
Especially when they already have not one but three wonderkids lined up for his position(s).
It's quite amazing how Schürrle still is commanding such high fees. He's simply not that good.
Give Demble or Pulisic the playing time on the right both of them look like much more talented players than Schürrle.
Give Demble or Pulisic the playing time on the right both of them look like much more talented players than Schürrle.
Shocking if true
Demand is what makes the price. Schürrle is Tuchels masterpupil, he wants him while Wolfsburg doesn't need to sell him -> high transfer fee
I've yet to see the first person online who claims to understand this move by Tuchel/Dortmund.
It wouldn't even make much sense to me if Schürrle came dirt cheap.
Tuchel's game so far was based on positional play, good decision-making and quick combinations in the final third. Schürrle is not even as bad as some people make out, but he really doesn't strike me as a player whose abilities match this particular style of football. Not at all.
Then again, Tuchel should know what he's searching for, so I guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe we're in for a big surprise, I somehow refuse to believe the whole thing is as stupid as it seems.
Hopefully. I get the idea of getting Götze back, as a central player where he would fight with Shinji, Castro, Reus, Merino for a spot. But in the case of Schürrle i got questionmarks over my head, especially for the amount of money which is rumored.
I've yet to see the first person online who claims to understand this move by Tuchel/Dortmund.
It wouldn't even make much sense to me if Schürrle came dirt cheap.
Tuchel's game so far was based on positional play, good decision-making and quick combinations in the final third. Schürrle is not even as bad as some people make out, but he really doesn't strike me as a player whose abilities match this particular style of football. Not at all.
Then again, Tuchel should know what he's searching for, so I guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe we're in for a big surprise, I somehow refuse to believe the whole thing is as stupid as it seems.
Oh, if Schürrle would be on the market for 15 Mil.€ or so, I would take him in a heartbeat and I say that as someone who is not that much of a fan of him. I see him as a one-trick-pony with a pretty strong trick. He has pace, especially on the first meters, has a good eye for open spaces and a really good shot both from long and short range. He has also pretty good chance conversion rate, which make him a fairly good finisher. He is in my eyes ideal to be used as an impact sub vs. tired opposition. To be able to bring a player like Schürrle from the bench after an hour can easily turn games.
Now, as a consistent starter or even key player (and as such he will be bought), it is a farily different story. As I said above he is really one dimensional, someone who does not create space or carries the game. He needs to be provided with such by his teammates. He is normally not a 30+ Mil. € player even in this currently inflated market. The only reason why he will cost that much is because of his contract situation, the well known fact that we got a lot of money from our sells and that Tuchel is appearantly adamant of getting him. If Tuchel would not see immense value in this signing, we would never touch this player. We are far too conservative in terms of spending for that.
No one knows Tuchel´s plan with Schürrle. Maybe he sees unlocked potential in him which is not visible for the majority of the football fans. Maybe he has the perfect role in mind to make him shine. I´ll remain sceptical about this transfer until the player convinces me otherwise, but I also believe that Tuchel earned enough credit last sesaon that he should be allowed to have this shot.
I thought about that too, but Dortmund already have 3 major talents + Passlack competing for one spot (if Reus is available). Schürrle is not good enough to replace Mkhitaryan directly, yet too established to give up much playing time for the youngsters. So it's more the squad composition that seems problematic to me, which would be the same if Schürrle came for 15m (or on a free for that matter).
Maybe the prognosis for Reus' long time health is so bad that he can't be reckoned with and Tuchel needs an additional experienced player; that would make the whole thing more understandable. But then again: Why did they buy two high calibre talents in addition to Pulisic if they have no room to play all of them regularly?
It has to be something like this.