Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability
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He'll never go for 70 million, that would be insane. 50 or 55 is more like it and the price is elevated due to his importance to our team.
No deal is getting done in the days prior to the biggest match of his career, I guarantee you that. So any journalist reporting a deal was agreed during these days is lying.
I really hope he doesn't go to United, don't think it would work out at all for him.
No deal is getting done in the days prior to the biggest match of his career, I guarantee you that. So any journalist reporting a deal was agreed during these days is lying.
I really hope he doesn't go to United, don't think it would work out at all for him.
It is happening! my sources have confirmed that we reached an agreement with Sporting FC, Bruno will sign after the final.
Maybe we want to sign him early like Martial before he has a good game in a tournament and his price rises.
Is there nothing else happening in Portugal at all? Fernandes and Felix situations seem to get contradicted every few hours. Portuguese journalists are nothing if not prolific.
Although that last one appears to be Italian. If other people start joining in then the story will be changing by the minute.
Although that last one appears to be Italian. If other people start joining in then the story will be changing by the minute.
I don't think Spurs are interested.
I'm going to put my hand up and admit I'm in my 40s I dont know what tier 1 or tier 2 is ? Who decides ? Is it lads on facetube or youbook?
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I don’t think even half the clubs being reported as interested genuinely are.
Started on Reddit, it's a rough guide on if the journalist is reliable. A tier 1 is someone with really high accuracy, a tier 4 is a bull shit merchant never to be trusted. The tiers themselves are a bit unreliable to be perfectly honest.
Yeah, ironically the Reddit tier system is only tier 3 in terms of reliability.
I wasn't saying that because United aren't looking good
Just don't think it would be the right match.
A heat map does not tell you if a player is like David Silva or Frank Lampard. In fact Portuguese posters have already said that he's not a proper playmaker so dont expect one. The hype surrounding this fellow is getting a bit ridiculous. Personal I'm skeptical about this one. The stats are terrific but I'm wary of giving them too much importance. Technically (shooting side) he doesn't look a 70 million pound player at all. We need players who help the entire collective through their technical brilliance.18/19 - 32 goals, 18 assists in 53 games
17/18 - 16 goals, 20 assists in 56 games
At the "right age" of 24 y.o. so not much of "young and learning, he's for the future, need an arm around shoulder", trying to excuse the inconsistency. And him can play 50+ games a season is a big bonus.
From his heatmap last season, seems like he's a David Silva, instead of a Lampard. Pretty impressive output then.
Make you wonder who's the lucky club who'll get his service.
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/p...-analysis-bruno-fernandes-sporting-statistics
And Fred was older when we signed him but still needed patience. So this notion that footballers above a certain age will simply walk in and perform may or may not actually apply.
I wasn't saying that because United aren't looking good
Just don't think it would be the right match.
why though?
Is it a coincidence that as soon as it became apparent City weren't interested, Spurs began to get linked?
Maybe, but I get the impression Sporting just want us on our toes.
Maybe, but I get the impression Sporting just want us on our toes.
You could say today’s game v Croatia was Daniel James’s biggest ever game he’s played in and that got confirmed yesterday so ......???
And ironically we were believing a ITK on reddit called Spoofex for the last 5 weeks. The mind boggles.
why though?
I think he's good enough to be a good option for top teams but he's not going to be an undisputed starter that solves your midfield problems. United should be looking to buy a different profile of midfielder imo.
Don't mean to sound too critical but United at the moment just seem like a very directionless club, I don't really know what the project is, what players they're building around or what type of team they're trying to become. Doesn't really seem like the perfect place for an inexperienced player like him to go to without having a long adaptation phase.
Bruno should go to a team that presses a lot, gives him freedom to get into goalscoring positions and likes to counterattack. I'd like to see him at Tottenham if Eriksen leaves and I think it would be a great deal for all parties. Would make sense for them to go for either Bruno or Lo Celso and I believe they'd both fit right in without any problems.
I'd consider Tottenham paying 50 million for him a good deal, wouldn't say the same for United since there are bigger problems that need fixing before getting a player like him that will be more more of a bonus than a player that's part of the spine of the team and immediately takes you up a level.
As much as we all love formation wankery, if we sign him and he's pretty good, like a theoretically healthy Aaron Ramsey in a good season but maybe not the 6 months he was the best player in the Prem, we would at least have 2 talented if inconsistent forwards in Martial and Rashford and 2 midfielders who are dangerous on the ball behind them in Pogba and Fernandes, and that's at least could be the start of an actually pretty good front 6, which we haven't had for a long, long time.
Whoever the other 2 players (presumably Fred and one more signing, be it a RW for a 4-3-3 or a DM or CM for a diamond with 2 up top), joining them, adding a good player and less time for the mid-table fellas like Lingard, sadly past it Mata (could maybe be better on the right team with the right system despite his legs going), past it Matic, not yet there if ever McTominay and such.
Cautiously Optimistic!
Whoever the other 2 players (presumably Fred and one more signing, be it a RW for a 4-3-3 or a DM or CM for a diamond with 2 up top), joining them, adding a good player and less time for the mid-table fellas like Lingard, sadly past it Mata (could maybe be better on the right team with the right system despite his legs going), past it Matic, not yet there if ever McTominay and such.
Cautiously Optimistic!
This right here!!! Whats the point of his shooting if he cant we cant get the ball up the pitch becuase we have no control over the game. We need players that understand how to buildup play from the back. The clips of him ive been watching has just been so random and all over the place. Dont really know what he specializes in. Also he is a small lad. i really hope all those flicks he's been doing in youtube compilations translate over here with all the physicality. I might just give up if we buy this guy and he is weak with no balance like fred.
I will note that from those videos he does seem to be very good at setpieces which is always welcome.
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Learned from Liverpool (and our PSG away game), it doesn't matter if the team can't control the match as long as you score goals. I don't think we should go with the route of getting midfielders to control the match. It is hard toe-to-toe against other big teams with their established midfield.
And Fred is just a bad buy, and I don't expect him to get much better. What you see at the end of last season is what you can expect next season. There's no inconsistency.
We bought Carrick, Evra, Vidic, RvN etc in the past at around 24-26 y.o. It took them a brief time to adapt, but then they were pretty consistent afterward. But yes, there's no guarantee he'll come good though.
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yet look at ajax. Not a big team yet cultivate players that can play all over the pitch. This mindset of getting players that can score goals is pointless since against the top sides we will hardly get any chance. psg was a fluke and shouldn't be used as an example. More times the dominant teams win and that is what we should strive for. ofcourse there are always the lucky wins(psg away) but thats not how you win championships.
Liverpool are an exception to the rule. Klopp's entire ethos eliminates the need for having specialised midfielders who can control. I don't see Ole having the kind of impact on the collective to be able mitigate a not so special midfield as Klopp has done. We need to be realistic.
PSG away was just a smash and grab.
No offense but that line of yours - "doesn't matter how much you control the game as long as you score", for me, typifies what's wrong with United these days. Were always looking at winning/winners/goals/ambition/making statements without figuring out and focusing on the process that goes on to achieve it. You can addd all the goalscorers possible but the team will not reach the level we want it to unless the buildup and cohesion is at a high level. That generally comes with A) good coaching and B) players who contribute to the buildup. Not saying this chap can't do it, but I'd like these things to be emphasized and priorities rather than an afterthought.
If we sell Pogba, he would fit nicely.
Sure he is inconsistent but to sell our only potential world class player, a World Cup winner or at least our most creative player for a player who has only be tested in a smaller league.
Selling Pogs will be the modern-day equivalent of Ronaldo to RM.
Where would they fit him anyway? I think throwing in City's name into the bag is just, no more than the agent/club's way of maintaining a high price.
Hope its not true tbh, said it from the start but don't think he suits the players we have or is the tight type of player that we're looking for.
Pogba replacement, not a Pogba partner
Pogba replacement, not a Pogba partner
How do you know what type of player we are looking for?
Will be a big flop if we signed him. If some of you think he will replace Pogba then you're gonna be very disappointed. The Spurs target Lo Celso would be a much better buy.
I predict he will go for under £35m this summer. If he can not play as a CM in a 433 system, he is worthless. Also consider he is turning 25 this summer, Bruno should look close to a finished product. Dylan Levitt also got those ranged breakthrough crosses, and Angel Gomes is a better playmaker, both in the number 8 and number 10 role we have better options at the club.
When a player performs above their level, its a sign that they are ready to step up. If you look at what Bruno did against Switzerland, and the cup final, he played below par, which indicate that he is overrated, sorry.
Im sure we will sign a CM this summer, but it wont be Bruno.
When a player performs above their level, its a sign that they are ready to step up. If you look at what Bruno did against Switzerland, and the cup final, he played below par, which indicate that he is overrated, sorry.
Im sure we will sign a CM this summer, but it wont be Bruno.
How do you know this?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/foot...&utm_campaign=share&__twitter_impression=true
Deal could be off according to Mirror
Deal could be off according to Mirror
They know nothing.
They're citing the Portuguese press as the original source.
The Star is saying the same thing
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/la...tagram-liverpool-sporting-lisbon-ed-woodward?
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/la...tagram-liverpool-sporting-lisbon-ed-woodward?
They're citing the Mirror who are citing the Portuguese press.
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