Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability

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abdo99 said:
Is it that much weak? Some best players in PL came from it. He wasn't blameless but it's clear he wasn't given same chances afforded to other players after summer esp and got dumped by Mourinho. He even got humiliated by getting put in reserve match. Lingard and Rashford should have had 10 reserve match this year then!
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Yeah he wasn't given chances because he was terrible. Both Rashford and Martial have done miles better than what he served up.

Again, nobody said good players can't come from lesser leagues. Your logic fails. Just like Memphis failed at United, sadly. Obviously great players can come from any league. But players who aren't good enough for a top league can also look great in a lesser one. That's the point ,and it's a fairly indisputable one
 
Well if you compare him with Bernardo Silva, it all comes down to one question...if you prefer brunettes or blondes.

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SportingCP96 said:
You're comparing a midfielders scoring to a striker.....He is a midfielder who can happen toe bang goals in.

17 goals and 16 assists
33 goals and 16 assists in 2 seasons is tearing the league up.
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Yes, I understand that. But it gives you some sort of indication on where he stand as a player.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Yeah he wasn't given chances because he was terrible. Both Rashford and Martial have done miles better than what he served up.

Again, nobody said good players can't come from lesser leagues. Your logic fails. Just like Memphis failed at United, sadly. Obviously great players can come from any league. But players who aren't good enough for a top league can also look great in a lesser one. That's the point ,and it's a fairly indisputable one
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He 'failed' in the same way Salah has 'failed' at Chelsea. Some things happened that it didn't go as expected . I don't agree he's not good enough for top leagues currently at lleast.
 
abdo99 said:
He 'failed' in the same way Salah has 'failed' at Chelsea. Some things happened that it didn't go as expected . I don't agree he's not good enough for top leagues currently at lleast.
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Salah was a great example. Some players just don’t fit certain clubs but that does not make them bad players.
 
SportingCP96 said:
Salah was a great example. Some players just don’t fit certain clubs but that does not make them bad players.
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Yes it was not a slight on Salah but he got given a different platform and excelled. The environment is even more important for the confidence players and our environment is not good.
 
SportingCP96 said:
Salah was a great example. Some players just don’t fit certain clubs but that does not make them bad players.
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Sure, but Salah always had elite physical attributes like pace and agility. Memphis had none of that.

I don't hate the guy, but he also seemed to have a poor attitude about things, which he himself has admitted to. Maybe he's grown up now, but I still don't think hes going to make us regret not having stuck through it with him.

Also regarding Rashford, imo if his decision making improves, he will be excellent and at his still young age I'd bet that's more likely than not.
 
I have a feeling we're going to sign him.

The question mark for me if we bring him in is what formation will we play in next season. Can he play the Herrera role and we go 433, or will he play in the 10 in behind 2 strikers in a diamond 442? Or will Ole keep it flexible and use both formations?

A lot to still be decided but the tea leaves point to us signing both him and Rabiot.
 
thomas porter said:
I have a feeling we're going to sign him.

The question mark for me if we bring him in is what formation will we play in next season. Can he play the Herrera role and we go 433, or will he play in the 10 in behind 2 strikers in a diamond 442? Or will Ole keep it flexible and use both formations?

A lot to still be decided but the tea leaves point to us signing both him and Rabiot.
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I don't think we'd want him in a three (where Pogba is also one of the three), so we'd likely play with four midfielders in a 4-4-2 diamond or a 3-4-2-1.

That said, I'm not sure if we're interested - the Portuguese sports press is just an endless stream of drivel.
 
Peyroteo said:
In the final it should be:

William

Bruno-Moutinho

Bernardo-Félix-Ronaldo
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Guedes was good as a sub so no need to change plan there. Sub him on for Felix in the 70th minute against tired legs. 4-3-3 here but the front 3 have a lot of mobility and it changes to a 4-4-2 defensively. Moutinho closes the attacking fulback on one side and Bruno on the other. Neves and William shouldn't play together, they're both too similar and they're too slow to cover defensively.
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I would replace that flop I mean Felix with Jota, anyway I hate santos so if we are going to lose because his team selection I just hope for a huge humiliation and maybe they fire him.
 
Infra-red said:
I don't think we'd want him in a three (where Pogba is also one of the three), so we'd likely play with four midfielders in a 4-4-2 diamond or a 3-4-2-1.

That said, I'm not sure if we're interested - the Portuguese sports press is just an endless stream of drivel.
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I tend to feel like this one is real but I can understand your skepticism that this might be Nico Gaitan 2.0
 
If this guy is worth 80 million Bernado must be worth 400 million. Even in this inflated market, I don't even see a 40 million player in him.
 
Nep77 said:
If this guy is worth 80 million Bernado must be worth 400 million. Even in this inflated market, I don't even see a 40 million player in him.
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Do you see any in our team besides Pogba and De Gea?
 
Peyroteo said:
In the final it should be:

William

Bruno-Moutinho

Bernardo-Félix-Ronaldo
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Guedes was good as a sub so no need to change plan there. Sub him on for Felix in the 70th minute against tired legs. 4-3-3 here but the front 3 have a lot of mobility and it changes to a 4-4-2 defensively. Moutinho closes the attacking fulback on one side and Bruno on the other. Neves and William shouldn't play together, they're both too similar and they're too slow to cover defensively.
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If the Dutch team gets to the final, Portugal would need to either dominate the midfield or park the bus while punting long ball in the process. If they are going to punt the ball, there's no reason to play Felix.

The thing is there was nothing really wrong with the set-up except for the fact that Bruno and Bernardo should have swapped roles. Bernardo is better at dictating the flow and controlling the midfield while Bruno is at his best in the final third.

Normally, Felix is at his best either as a SS behind a lead striker or a false 9 striker without another support forward roaming behind him because he loves to drop back into space to interplay with his midfielders.

Yesterday, he was deployed on the right side with the role of making the runs like a lead striker behind the defence, while Ronaldo drops from the left behind him as the support striker. Felix was isolated upfront except for the occasional long ball punt to him hence he had to drop to the wing to get on the ball because the middle was packed and we all know the wing isn't his best. He moved to the left forward role in the second half and saw more of the ball albeit still little but it was far better than in the first half and also, he was able to combine easily with Carvalho as he dropped back into open space while he and Ronaldo took turns making runs behind.

Normally, if the midfield was dominant enough to get the ball to him even as a pure striker, this may not have been an issue or if he was deployed as the SS to linkup with the attack while Ronaldo was deployed upfront, like he was after Guedes came on, it wouldn't be a problem too. Problem was Felix wasn't only playing as a pure striker with another forward as a support striker behind him but also, he only had long ball to chase throughout the game.

If Portugal is to repeat the same, there's no use playing Felix but at least, the coach needs to deploy Fernandes in the final third where he's more potent, rather than in the central midfield.
 
Why city made a pass on this guy when they have to replace David silva ?

They might have realised he can't cut it in England ?

I go by on their decision as it's proven in last few years they are makin all right calls
 
So if we did sign Bruno, would this midfield work?
--- Ndidi ---
Bruno Pogba

I've heard that Bruno works hard, tracks back etc. Pogba should really be doing the same.
Obviously we don't have Ndidi, but I used him as he'd be my preferred choice I think, but at any other DM to the equation.

Also, I didn't see the Portugal match, but it feels like everybody saw an off game and all of a sudden he's not good enough? :lol:
 
sp_107 said:
Why city made a pass on this guy when they have to replace David silva ?

They might have realised he can't cut it in England ?

I go by on their decision as it's proven in last few years they are makin all right calls
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I doubt they were ever in for him. More likely that their name was being used to hike up the price.
 
Igor Drefljak said:
So if we did sign Bruno, would this midfield work?
--- Ndidi ---
Bruno Pogba

I've heard that Bruno works hard, tracks back etc. Pogba should really be doing the same.
Obviously we don't have Ndidi, but I used him as he'd be my preferred choice I think, but at any other DM to the equation.

Also, I didn't see the Portugal match, but it feels like everybody saw an off game and all of a sudden he's not good enough? :lol:
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As good as Ndidi is as a pure DM I don't think that set up would work, Bruno scampers around a lot like Lingard but he's not a proper #8 and it's not going to work when the other player with him is Pogba, they are essentially a one or the other deal or we use the diamond and Bruno plays as the #10 which is his best position.
 
The Portuguese papers are by far the worst, they have no clue, none of them and it's all just shit.

It's like a world of Don Balon over there.
 
sp_107 said:
Why city made a pass on this guy when they have to replace David silva ?

They might have realised he can't cut it in England ?

I go by on their decision as it's proven in last few years they are makin all right calls
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I’d imagine Bernardo Silva will end up taking David Silva’s role at some point in the near future.

As for Bruno got to say saw one tackle that was very Scholesesque, so if the rest of his game is any similar then I’m down for it but from what I saw other than a love for a knee high tackle the similarities stopped there.
 
How is the lads passing, tenacity and midfield work?

All his goals doesn't really tempt me much because I don't think we necessarily need a Lampard the most - a more creative player if possible.
 
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