Replace Longstaff and Rice for Tielemans and that don’t look bad.
Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability
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Replace Longstaff and Rice for Tielemans and that don’t look bad.
Him and Sigurdsson are the players he reminds me of. The idea that he can replace Pogba is laughable IMO. If we do buy him I hope it's to play at the tip of the diamond as I think he'd likely get eaten up in midfield in the PL no matter who the DM is.
Ffs, really? Is he better than Sigurdsson/Mkhi?
Why we interested in a player like this anyway? We've always been shite at implementing #10's. We need wingers and controlling, deeper midfielders.
I would be happy with that. I like Pogba and would hate to lose him because he is that good but if he wants to play in La Liga then our midfield would be alot stronger with the above
He reminds me of both, whether he's better we wont know until he plays in a top league like they have.
We need a Striker and a RB as well but who knows with this board.
Yeah I know but I mean we need wingers and deeper midfielders instead of a 10. I thought he was one of those 2
Well it depends if Ole wants wingers, I think he might well favour the diamond as we don't have a Striker who can play as a #9 in a 4-3-3.
Rashford had his best form for the club there. He will probably be the starting 9 in that formation going into next season
He doesn't have the hold-up or link play for that to work, he had a purple patch there is all, his all round game isn't suited to the role and if we are going to play 4-3-3 with him as a #9 we'll be lucky to finish 6th IMO.
*Coach changed it for them. Felix was good help as were "extraterrestrial forces.
Where do you think Sporting would be without Fernandes? 5th probably closer to 6th then to third. So he had the same impact in a worse team. Had Fernandes been in Benfica they would have won the league a month earlier then they did.
Bruno Fernandes was the best player in Portugal BY A MILE and its not close. All while playing in a shocking team.
But the coach couldn't do it without Felix. I don't fancy Fernandes. He's a poor man's Sigurdsson/Pogba. Besides, we don't need a 10 whose only ability is punting long ball and taking shots like the aforementioned. We already have that in Pogba and we're still reeling from the effect.
We don't know that. Felix is a great option to have obviously but it was Bruno Lage and the extra players they have wearing black. Had Rui Vitoria stayed they probably would not have won the title and Felix would not have played as well as he did.
Like I said Bruno Fernandes was the best player in Portugal while playing for the worst of the best teams.
Swap Felix and put him in Sporting this year and put Bruno Fernandes in Benfica and tell me what would happen.
Felix would not get near the same numbers he did this season and would have played worse while Bruno Probably would have the same output if not better.
Proof of that? Benfica player Pizzi who is as average as they come regularly gets double digit goals and assists in Benfica. Thanks to the team he plays for the fact other teams push so deep against them and his team is so much better than any other in the league bar Porto.
Pay no attention to Kaglish, mate. A couple of weeks ago he filled pages on this site stanning for Donny Van De Beek.
I mean everyone is allowed to have an opinion but .....at least watch the player or players you are talking about actually play instead of going by YouTube. It does not tell the whole story about a player.
YouTube can make Shikabala (Egyptian player) look like Ronaldinho.
He reminds me so much of a young Scholes. It will be interesting to see if he follows the same path of eventually transitioning into a deep lying playmaker.
Lazy comparison just because both are good with long shots. Fernandes operates all over the field, has great vision, precise weighted passes and always looks to play the ball forward with attacking intent. He's good in tight spaces but also in a more expansive game, due to his intelligence and vision.
His weakness is physicallity. He does fall down often and sometines lacks the balance to be more precise with his touches but without those shortcommings we would soon be talking about Zidane.
We need a player like Scholes so badly. Even a Scholes of his last proper year would be better than what we have, let alone young Scholes
No I agree, everyone is going to have differing opinions on players. It's the folks who latch on to one or two and won't have rational conversation about it that I distrust when it comes to talking about potential transfer targets (that guy NL Max from a few years ago was a good example). Totally agree about YouTube as well - it's an amazing expansion of the game that brings a lot of players to peoples' attention that otherwise may have flown under the radar, but editing and selective gameplay is highly misleading.
Scholes changed his game a lot from his younger days. That's not a normal course a midfielder would take. Fernandes will likely play #10 role for his whole career which is closer to Wayne Rooney than Scholes.
You say lazy comparison and yet what you describe is very much the Mkhitaryan of Dortmund where as the shooting aspect is like Sigurdsson, which is why he reminds me both, i.e. a mixture. As for him only being two shortcomings away from Zidane........ok.
Can't be worse than Mata in that regard.
What I think is often revealing about a Youtube compilation is when even the "best of" vids can't make a player look good.
To be honest, I will take Bruno here just based on his set-pieces alone. Our set pieces, whether they be corners, indirect freekicks or direct freekicks, have been utter rubbish for seasons. Obviously he has other qualities which I feel would suit our team tremendously. Heck, even playing him as a right-sided playmaker like Beckham, spraying passes or crossing from deep, will be a revelation.
He is bit limited hence Pep made a pass on this player ! Might improve us but can't take us to next level like Silva did at city
What about Fernandes, Tielemans & Ndidi - assuming Pogba moved on?
Think that would bring a nice balance, although I'd prefer Aouar to Tielemans ideally.
Ten Hag confirmed that Van de Beek was indeed a no 6 that was turned into a no 10 because he had too many of them. In fact, it means I know more than the regular Ajax fans on here.
That's the player he's play like. Sigurdsson is even better than him.
And to your editing point if you can make a nearly 20 minute compilation where said player looks good in all 20 minutes then I think clearly that guy is more then just a YouTube highlight real.
I have seen videos of players 6 minutes long where the editing is so forced to make him look better then he is.
Also just a final point on Bruno because I feel some people think I have him down as the second coming of Christ. Bruno Fernandes is a great player with a lot of good attributes who can improve a lot of teams. I have no doubt about that. With that being said though as I have said before his “ceiling” in terms of what impact he can bring too a team Is probably a Christian Erickson or just under him (I am not talking about playing style but rather impact in the EPL that he could have). I think he would be a good player in the EPL but he won’t be the driving force to you winning the League.
Obviously is not two shortcommings away from Zidane because a player's quality is not just a set of attributes.
I just mean though that if Fernandes was more elegant and physically more imposed he'd be world class without question. He is currently much superior to Neves who i rate and most People would be happy splashing 60M on. He's way sharper and more mobile.
Sigurdsson is not better than Fernandes
But let's all wait and see.
I feel you might be trolling?
I'm not. I've been vocal about some of our signings on the previous forum I was in and most of them turned out worse. Players such as Mikhitaryan, Pogba, Lindelof, Fred, even Depay and Lukaku etc. I will always be vocal about players I don't fancy. I really don't know what Bruno does that mkhitaryan didn't do at Dortmund or Sigurdsson isn't doing at Everton. We need a playmaker in the midfield, not Bruno.
I appreciate your measured analysis, which can be hard to do when it's a player on the team you support. I like what I've seen of him this year - if he lives up to the Eriksen ceiling, he'd be a massive success here. We could have badly used someone like Eriksen the last few years.
I think within the next few weeks we will see more news as too where he might be going. I also think other pending or potential transfers could have an impact on where he goes so the next few weeks should bring for some interesting developments. So far here in Portugal they have United as the front runner só only time will tell.
This is true. I remember when Borussia Dortmund bought Adrian Ramos a few years back and I went to see Youtube compilations, which were unremarkable. Turns out he was really bad.
He can really shoot the ball, has good technical ability and works really hard for his team. The kind of player that supporters like because he leaves it all on the pitch every single game. He's a very good player that really developed this year into a serious goal scoring threat.
His numbers are a bit inflated by penalty kicks, he was the penalty taker and Sporting had 15 of those, but he had an excelent season either way. On the other hand he's almost 25 years old and still hasn't established himself as a regular on the national team. He's a very good player in a mediocre team. Can he have an imediate impact on Manchester United? Maybe but is not guaranteed.
His numbers are a bit inflated by penalty kicks, he was the penalty taker and Sporting had 15 of those, but he had an excelent season either way. On the other hand he's almost 25 years old and still hasn't established himself as a regular on the national team. He's a very good player in a mediocre team. Can he have an imediate impact on Manchester United? Maybe but is not guaranteed.
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How is great vision & precise weighted passes is ‘’very much the Mkhitaryan of Dortmund”?
Did you see Mkhi at Dortmund? he was one of the most creative players in the Bundesliga in the season before we bought him, he had superb vision and passing, the biggest difference was he was better at running with the ball than Bruno Fernandes and was doing it in a much better league.
I’d be delighted to get him. That being said I recognize it could take time for him to settle and show his ability. I think some united fans are still arguing from a standpoint that they are expecting instant fixes to all our woes. I think they will be very disappointed again this summer
Mhki was class at Dortmund so was Kagawa both suited their system well . Bruno will need time to fit into whatever system Ole goes with
I’d like to know what people’s thoughts are of Bruno joining us over City for money?
...a player like De Light to me is a tad different because he’ll be the face of whatever club he joins as long as he’s there. I see that more of a bidding war and long term investment.
But Bruno, there’s reports (don’t know how accurate) that he’s thinking of picking us because we’ll give £15m more for the transfer fee and high wages. Bit of what City used to be made fun for doing and yet here we are doing it ourselves and as recent as Alexis which was a dumpster fire. Bruno isn’t as old Alexis and still have a lot of mileage left so there’s that. But I’m not sure where I stand on this. Maybe I’m making it out to be a bigger deal than it is? Would love to hear people’s $0.02
...a player like De Light to me is a tad different because he’ll be the face of whatever club he joins as long as he’s there. I see that more of a bidding war and long term investment.
But Bruno, there’s reports (don’t know how accurate) that he’s thinking of picking us because we’ll give £15m more for the transfer fee and high wages. Bit of what City used to be made fun for doing and yet here we are doing it ourselves and as recent as Alexis which was a dumpster fire. Bruno isn’t as old Alexis and still have a lot of mileage left so there’s that. But I’m not sure where I stand on this. Maybe I’m making it out to be a bigger deal than it is? Would love to hear people’s $0.02
Agreed, even really great players can take some time to acclimatise. Bernardo Silva has looked brilliant this season, certainly a level up from last season.
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