I would rather have Nevez
Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability
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He scored some great goals in Italy as well
That holds good for all transfers though? We have no guarantee that Bruno will work either.
If you don't take a risk you will never get anywhere.
So take that risk with players from better league then !
So that means you only get players who are with 80M and above because they will be sure things?
Ya that has really worked out for United recently hasn't it? Pogba, Falcao, Sanches, Di Maria, Lukaku, flop,flop,flop,flop, and flop.
Played over 100 games in Italy before he was 21. Impressive stuff.
He's not proven quality at the elite level though. He's a gamble and only going off one really eye catching season by the age of 24. It's a gamble to sign him. £60-70m would be crazy.
Isn't it closer to £40-45m, his release clause?
No, dont get me wrong. I am all for this if we the fee is reasonable. I don't want us to overpay when there are better options out there .
Hope so.
He did quite well last season too, this season took it to a whole new level though.
I'd love for us to go for a midfielder who actually contributes with goals (not just from penalties) and assists on a regular basis. 24 is still very young.
We probably need to buy 2 midfielders and promote Garner for next season. If Mata, Ander and Pogba all leave, we probably need one more. As a Matic fan, I still concede that he's on his last legs.
We probably need to buy 2 midfielders and promote Garner for next season. If Mata, Ander and Pogba all leave, we probably need one more. As a Matic fan, I still concede that he's on his last legs.
You are kidding right? Pogba is our best player by a mile. Falcao was a loan and Lukaku is still our best forward.
Portugese league is inferior to other leagues ( no offense meant) and so the risk is much higher when we gamble on players. As I asked couple of times, when was the last time someone from Portugese league made an instant impact in epl? Put it this way , I would rather take a 70m gamble from French or Italian league than Portugese league.
That first goal...no way could Lukaku do that. He'd be gassed halfway through the celebration Fernandez did.
If I remember him well he was quite talented and very loved by the fans, there. Is he still a no 10 though? I know he can play in a deeper role but someone with so many goals in him would be wasted in a deeper role
I get that and no offense taken but bar PSG the French league is the same level as Portugal or just a wee bit better. Bernardo Silva came from there as well. Also I know its a gamble but you have to take a gamble sometimes to find quality. It has happened repeatedly in football.
EPL is not what it used to be several years ago. Even teams such as Everton, Wolves are playing intricate football these days. So whatever the history was before with NOS players in PL does not suit the current climate climate. We're close to La Liga than ever before and plenty of NOS players such as Di Maria, Bernando Silva, Ederson have left NOS and had successful careers. If you keep putting away players based on where they are from , then we'll be late to every party.
#10 out and out who gets into the box a lot.
This season 31 goals and 17 assists
Last season 16 goals and 17 assists
So as you can see he has done fantastic in both season at Sporting it was not just this season.
He was already very talented even during his time in Italy. Unfortunately the Italians have a love/hate relationship with that role. Di Canio and Zola had to leave the Serie A, Dybala is suffering at the very moment under Allegri while Baggio struggled when he played with the Milanese clubs. Bruno is no different. Udinese tried to move him in a deeper role while Sampdoria used him sparely. Despite all that Sampdoria fans loved him and were saddened to see him leave.
I have a funny feeling we're moving to a 4-3-2-1 system.
we'd kind of need both if Pogba goes anyway. Completely rebuild the midfield with at least 2 signings ... Neves and Bruno together would actually make a ton of sense.
He looks a good footballer, great shot on him obviously, but he also seems to be able to work his way out of a tight spot, and has a nice "long-pass"/cross. A lot of his good work has come from the right-hand side, he's a hard worker... he seems like an upgrade on Lingard atm.
If Fernandes had been on the end of the 3 chances Lingard got against City we might be looking at a double for Liverpool... Thank God for our academy.
If Fernandes had been on the end of the 3 chances Lingard got against City we might be looking at a double for Liverpool... Thank God for our academy.
Okay, sounds like he has connections in Portugal then
Would be very interesting if we go for both Fernandes and Dybala. I can see work in a 41212 diamond formation, with Fernandes in the no.10 role, and Dybala and Rashford as the split strikers. But I think that will only come to fruition if Lukaku is sold so that we can free up starting slots upfront and funds to go for both Dybala and Fernandes, not to mention a new RB, CB and another CM/DM to replace Herrera and Matic.
Dream summer for me, since Sancho looks unavailable, will be Fernandes, Dybala, De Ligt, Meunier, plus another couple of more obscure signings like Godfrey who I think will be great in a DM role, and Daniel James as an option in certain games or to come off the bench.
Dream summer for me, since Sancho looks unavailable, will be Fernandes, Dybala, De Ligt, Meunier, plus another couple of more obscure signings like Godfrey who I think will be great in a DM role, and Daniel James as an option in certain games or to come off the bench.
I understand when people use the level of the level to moderate expectations about players. But we need to say that the some of best players in the history came from leagues you would say are weaker. We can use the strenght of the league to analyse average players, but its easy to recognize the best talents even if the guy is playing at some small club in East Europe or South America.
City did a great job of fecking us with their interest in Sanchez and Fred.....
tbf the reason City didn't sign Fred was because they only wanted him in the Jan window but Shaktar wouldn't sell him then then went for other players in the summer.
I said last week that I couldn't see City being in for him for him due to this player not having the close control and technique of players like Silva, De Bruyne etc. Couldn't see him fitting into a Pep team.
Take his shooting away and you're left with a very average player. Wolves or Everton are more his level. Sporting Lisbon been doing well to mislead the media it seems.
Take his shooting away and you're left with a very average player. Wolves or Everton are more his level. Sporting Lisbon been doing well to mislead the media it seems.
Do we need to be splashing 40-50 million on him, we have seen Liverpool be successful without a world class midfield but have a great defence and attack, maybe we should focus on these two areas instead considering we leak goals and cant take our chances in front of goal.
Sounds perfect for us then.
It's always a bit suspicious if players suddenly turn decent with 25 years of age.
Ideal solution, sell pogba and bring in bruno AND neves to replace him. Neves plays further back, is more physical, can tackle and play a pass. Bruno plays football, runs for the team, great on the ball and good desire. All we would need next to them is another tireless runner and hardworker and i would think no further than Mctominay. Let ander go too and allow garner or angel gomes to cover from a youth capacity. We would also still have fred and andreas as cover.
He's a good player. Completely controlling games for Sporting, and I mean bossing them. He has a mean shot but he isn't Silva, he's not that type of player. His technical ability is great and his tactical reading of the game is class. We can a lot worse than this guy, he'd instantly improve our midfield.
He was also good in Italy so this hasn't just happened over night. He's just more complete now than he was before, which tends to happen with midfielders as they mature.
This isn't true. We LOVE those type of players. Di Canio was never that good while Zola was a massive blunder by Ancelotti, and the league as a whole, which everybody recognized. They were also 28 and 30 when they left Italy, and Zola was considered finished at the time he left. Di Canio slipped through the cracks
Baggio's struggled at milan because of his personality and at Inter because of injuries, as always with him
Bruno Fernandes was a weird case. Clearly talented, there was a lot of interest by plenty of big clubs including Inter, Roma and Napoli. Him going to Sporting came out of left field and was kind of a shock move
Have his 17 assists all been shots then?
He looks a very tidy, technical player to me, if Silva and De Bruyne are the barometers. 90% of the players are technically average.
Swear we could go for Messi and people would complain he’s very one footed.
Second goal is amazing technique. He scored something similar for Sporting, sort of goals that top centre forwards would be proud of.
Who were the 17 assists against?
Lovely to hear the City links were bollocks.
Get on it, Eddy.
Get on it, Eddy.
If it was that easy loads of other players would be putting up those numbers, he's not even an attacker he plays in midfield which makes it more impressive. He could very well not make the step up, but there's a good chance he will too. In a way I prefer to take these gambles rather than signing so called superstars like Sanchez, Falcao, Di Maria etc.
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