I never said it was easy. But the ones who think he will get us closer to challenging City and Liverpool are gonna end up being very disappointed.
Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability
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Ruben Neves would be perfect as a holding midfielder which we need anyway. He wouldnt be a Pogba replacement type.
Neves would be far from perfect.. Not sure how you come to that assessment..
Perfect or not Wolves are holding out for a a fee in the £80m region. Feck that.
Hes a holding midfielder with an excellent passing range. Not afraid to get stuck in. Calm and quality in possession. Had a great season in the prem, had massive hype around him a few years ago at Porto. He ticks all the boxes to be our holding mid IMO. We would still need a #8, but we need to strengthen both positions anyway.
They'll be lucky to get £30m for him. He's found the step up to the PL difficult and isn't press resistant due to being fairly slow and immobile. Would barely be a upgrade on Matic.
Had a great season in the prem? Are you serious? You obviously haven't watched much of Wolves.
He's actually struggled with the step up to the PL. Moutinho has been their best midfielder by miles. I've shared plenty of links to what the Wolves fans have thought of him in the PL. Neves didn't even get a single vote in their player of the year poll on their forum.
I've been impressed with Neves the 10 or so times I've seen Wolves play this year, but what you're saying is true, his form has been erratic according to Wolves fans, unlike Boly and Moutinho who they seem to feel have been consistently brilliant all year. I'm surprised there isn't more talk of Boly going to a big club considering he's 28 and has been good on the left side of central defense, where teams tend to be desperate for a signing (even though he's right footed and they play 3 at the back).
He won’t make us challenge by himself but he’d be a good player for us to have
If this boy is English and with those stats, everyone will go bonkers. Bruno Fernandes doesn't sound class enough. Will edit his name to Ronaldo Messio in FM20.
Not sure if it's been posted, but the most comprehensive video I've seen of him. Does appear to have some very good passing range to go with the immense shooting.
This isn't true. We LOVE those type of players. Di Canio was never that good while Zola was a massive blunder by Ancelotti, and the league as a whole, which everybody recognized. They were also 28 and 30 when they left Italy, and Zola was considered finished at the time he left. Di Canio slipped through the cracks
Baggio's struggled at milan because of his personality and at Inter because of injuries, as always with him
Bruno Fernandes was a weird case. Clearly talented, there was a lot of interest by plenty of big clubs including Inter, Roma and Napoli. Him going to Sporting came out of left field and was kind of a shock move
His profile looks complete!!
Wait, so tackling in weak but defensive contribution is strong? How does that work for a midfielder?
Pressing, interceptions, tracking back, being tactically disciplined, etc. A lot more to contributing defensively than tackling.
What's with the thread title? If City really want him, they will get him, unless he is a fan of United and absolutely wants to play for us.
Can't wait for United to sign Bruno already... He'll be a huge asset as we try to revolutionize the midfield.
It's not uncommon for centre halves to have tackling down as a weakness. It's only one part of defending and it's probably based simply on success rate. Players with very strong defensive contribution on the other hand tend to be the busy players like Herrera so thats probably volume of defensive work successful or otherwise.
This seems to be a good informative video
@Adnan Are you really not sold on him ?
Goals aside, how creative and good on the ball is he?
And with KDB, Silva and Silva already there, do City really have a place for this fellow?
And with KDB, Silva and Silva already there, do City really have a place for this fellow?
I honestly have my doubts. But if we sign him, then I hope he proves me wrong.
There isn't a single player who takes this team closer to city on his own except Messi. We have seen what players who play as a team achieve in CL, yet we still see the posts saying "he won't get us closer to team xyz".
Sissoko isn't good enough to take Spurs to CL finals, so is Lucas.
Shaqiri and Origi are not good enough to take Liverpool to CL finals and Henderson isn't good enough to close the gap with City.
It's as if football is a team game and the best teams always produce much more than sum of its parts.
I’d be shocked if United have the balls to make a proper move for once.
Was certain we’d miss out and end up renewing Mata instead. Let’s see if this can get sealed and sorted.
Completely agree. Let’s hope this isn’t another dud and he’s able to transition over without any hiccups (if we get him that is
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Was certain we’d miss out and end up renewing Mata instead. Let’s see if this can get sealed and sorted.
Completely agree. Let’s hope this isn’t another dud and he’s able to transition over without any hiccups (if we get him that is
)There is players who can elevate teams where they go from a top 4 team to arguably the best in the world. You just have to look at Liverpool and the difference Van Dyke and Allison have made for that.
Mate, he looks a proper player. And his set pieces alone would be immense.
I hope he gets the chance to prove you wrong.
What does this even mean? We have snatched plenty of players from other team's grasps over the past few years, I don't get this we don't have the balls narrative.I’d be shocked if United have the balls to make a proper move for once.
Was certain we’d miss out and end up renewing Mata instead. Let’s see if this can get sealed and sorted.
Completely agree. Let’s hope this isn’t another dud and he’s able to transition over without any hiccups (if we get him that is
They are part of excellent drilled system. Add them to ManUtd team there won't be much difference.
Henderson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Lovren, Matip are all average players but they look so much better as the team plays as a team and their combination is more than sum of their parts thanks to Klopp.
Thats how you build teams, adding complimenting players rather than looking for individuals who can carry the team.
I hope so too mate. I hope you're right.
That if we even sign him. There aren't any concrete news, all this is just based on yesterday's brief that City are not in for him.
I mean actually targeting and acquiring a player that’s a proper fit. I don’t care about “snatching” players...what good did that do us with Alexis? I don’t care about any of that. Just getting players that are the right fit.
Bruno looks to be that but knowing United over the past few years they go for other targets and not the ones who fix obvious needs. Thus why I say I’d be surprised if United have the balls to get a proper player/move in him and not find a way to feck it up.
They finished behind us just last season. Our team isn't as bad as alot are making it out to be. The difference is that Klopp has his players playing at a intensity that ours haven't been able to maintain apart from the first 10 games of Ole's tenure. Klopp has players in midfielders who many consider as plodders, but they've given the front 3 the platform to excell. They have fullbacks who put ours to shame.
Until we sort our engine room and have comparable fullbacks, then signing a #10 from the Portuguese league will have very little impact on us going forward.
This video is really good, some great passes and through balls there
How long before posters start calling him the Portuguese Darren Gibson?
Yeah. Which is why I said I hope he even gets the chance. It’s all gone cold. And this feels like one of those transfers we could’ve had wrapped up already.
Well you have made the points for me. It's playing as a team you described instead of relying on individual brilliance.
Edit. Btw it doesn't matter which players are from which league. If they are good, they are good.
Again, I don't get you. Which transfer have we fecked up recently? We may not have bought the right players but we have not missed out on a player we really wanted in a long time.
We have shown plenty of times that 'we have the balls', we refused to sell DDG to Madrid, we competed and won against Madrid for Pogba(probably), City for Fred and Sanchez, against Chelsea for Lukaku and against almost everyone, especially Bayern for Dalot despite being in way worse condition than the those teams
We have been linked to Bruno for months and have been scouting him for way longer than City have been (if reports are to be believed), so we are indeed targeting good players
Also is Bruno that good a fit? If Pogba is staying, we need a playmaker like David Silva more than a #10 and signing Bruno makes sense only if Pogba leaves IMO because a midfield of Pogba Bruno DM would get easily overrun, unless we are shifting to a 4-4-2
This is my last post I have to make today (newbie) but c’mon now.
United massively overachieved last season. And it wasn’t a particularly nice sight. José knew how weak our squad was so we just parked the bus 75% of the time and bored oppositions to death. Please do not make that out to be some sort of justification as if our team really isn’t that bad. It is. And it’s terrible. José managed to get a non-top4 club 2nd place. He really meant that was his biggest managerial achievement and you can see why now.
There’s no alignment since SAF left. There’s people in positions of power from multiple managers we’ve had. Just a bunch of random pieces that don’t mix. A clean slate is needed and that’s literally a rebuild. Liverpool have been working towards this vision and it’s been a long time coming so props to them for their success/rise. This doesn’t just happen overnight and please do not justify we were a better team than Liverpool because we were above them the standings. Again that’s only because Mourinho made us sit back to prevent us from getting outplayed and dropping points. It limited our chances of making mistakes and getting exposed with the lack of quality in our squad...Ederson and most defenders in the top4 can make better passes than our attacking options can ffs. We stink and don’t have a team. We have individual pieces not on the same page as one another and majority of those players plain suck either in terms of quality or ambition (don’t give enough of an effort /lazy).
The league sure doesn't matter if you're good enough. That's why I'm in favour of signing Felix.
So has he now gone from ' we should be in for this guy,' to ' overrated, good in a poor league, don't bother?'
FOMO factor has disappeared. I think we should sign him personally. If what his fans say is true he's worth it at around £40-50m. Signing him for £60-70m would be crazy though.
I don't think the algorithm is as sophisticated as @AR87 thinks. It doesn't measure things like pressing, tracking back and being tactically disciplined. If you look at his stats on there, he has 1.7 successful tackles per game and 0.5 interceptions, that would be a pretty high total for a player in his position and where his 'defensive contribution' rating comes from. I'd guess tackling as a weakness would be because he attempts quite a lot of tackles but loses most challenges.
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